Random Bouts in Cartography: Discussion & Entries

Don't the rules say that the maps have to be completely new since the contest is given?
Not for this specific contest, just the ABC contest. And even then, no one is disqualified for using world-a basemaps; all I'm doing is using a blank basemap I made already and making a whole new map with it. If that doesn't count, then neither does any map using world-a, Q-BAM, or so forth.
 
As long as it is a map that haven't been published anywhere I'm fine with it. Considering the current number of participants I cannot be picky.
 
As long as it is a map that haven't been published anywhere I'm fine with it. Considering the current number of participants I cannot be picky.
Yeah, when I say base I just mean I had this map, minus the rivers, sitting around from an abandoned project so I figured I could use it (I've already started adding rivers, as you can see):
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This is my entry into the Random Bouts of Cartography Contest.

The general backstory is that this is an alternate version of Harry Turtledove's famous alternate history series, Southern Victory, also known as Timeline-191. The general idea of HT's world is that the CSA managed to fight the Civil War to a draw and achieve independence from the United States, and then beat the United States in a "Second Mexican War" in the 1880s. Things continue to build until World War I breaks out in 1914 and the USA and CSA find themselves at war once more. While in Turtledove's work the post-war, German-allied victorious United States goes more socialist while the CSA embraces Nazism, my version has a divergence in that one certain character, Gordon McSweeney, does not die late in the war.

A decorated war hero, fiery speaker, and pious Presbyterian, McSweeney in this world goes into the post-war United States as a leader for a nation not sure what to do with itself after tremendous loss of life and a failure to retake the southern states into a single United States. Gordon McSweeney's brand of politics is highly nationalist and evangelist, forming a very American fascist party in the 1920s that grows in power, attracting millions of followers to McSweeney's firebrand rhetoric and apparently strong sense of morality and direction for the United States, until, in the 1930s, the United States elects Gordon McSweeney as President at the head of the Christian Democratic party. The party is not quite so abusive as the Nazi Party of our own world, but is assuredly quite nasty and very anti-CSA.

McSweeney, unsatisfied with the US' alliance with Germany that has existed since before the Great War, leaves the German alliance and instead approaches the Entente Cordiale, the losers of the First Great War. Since that time, Action Française has taken over the government in France and creates the French Fourth Republic (rather than the monarchy in the books) that is a pan-European, pro-Gallic French fascist one party state that seeks to get back at Germany for the defeat of France in the First Great War. In response, Germany allies to the CSA and the stage is set for the Second Great War.

Ultimately, as one can see on the map, the Second Great War did not go well for Germany. Though Germany fought well, the war was on too man y fronts and, without its superpower US ally, was unable to contain all the fighting. Early in the war France managed to get fascists governments in Spain and Italy into power as support while the US supplied Franco-British armies gradually driving into the heavily-defended German territories in the west while Russia reversed the German gains in the east. Ultimately, monarchist Russia and fascist France and Britain (the British government technically unchanged in rules but headed by fascists) meet in the middle and, like in our own world, divide up Europe for themselves while the United States swallows up the Confederate States of America, erasing the nation from history.

The result of the war is what can be seen on the map. In Europe the German, Austro-Hungarian, and Ottoman Empires were defeated at last and their territories divided up. France and the United Kingdom (lessened in size due to the US supporting Irish independence in the First Great War) help forge new states in Germany while France is able to successfully bring a number of European states into an early form of a common market, founded on the idea of pan-European nationalism and solidarity. This solidarity and nationalism will be needed in the coming years, too, as Gordon McSweeney's religious, pro-American fascism clashes heavily with Action Française's pan-European Gallic nationalism, and the two sides are less of allies than they have been since the end of the First Great War. Meanwhile, Russia looms large in the east, with much of Eastern Europe under it as puppets and the Turkish Straits under Moscow's direct control. Meanwhile, across the world, the Japanese emerged from the Second Great War in control of almost all of China as puppets and as "liberators" of European Asian colonies, creating a large sphere of power for itself. The stage is set, then, for a coming Cold War that could involve as many as 4 sides, but likely produce only one winner.

End Note: Just to make sure it is understood, the artist in no way supports the goals or ideas of fascism or similar ideologies. This is a work of fiction made for a specific contest, not a political statement.

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@ToixStory Mine's not nearly as good as yours :p

Axis Greece

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The idea behind this is basically that Eleftherios Venizelos is assassinated by an anarchist in late 1915, leading Greece to be neutral through WWI, though the Entente repeatedly violates their territorial sovereignty throughout the war, angering the Greek populace and largely turning them against the Entente. This anger eventually boils over into an early takeover by OTL dictator Ioannis Metaxas, who ITTL is much more overtly fascist. Like Mussolini, Metaxas does not overthrow King Constantine, instead making him into an effectively ceremonial figurehead. Metaxas begins a war with a Turkey that, ITTL, is much more fractured and whose civil war has been going on for much longer. This, and the lack of mid-war purges/conflict at home, allow the Greek state to secure large amounts of Western Anatolia.

A deal is made between the Italians and the Greeks wherein the Italians aid the Greeks in the Greco-Turkish war as well as turn over possession of the island of Rhodes, and in return the Greeks allow the Italians to annex all of Albania. This is Greece's first entry into alliances with other Fascist states; it will not be its last. Greece joins the Second World War on the side of the Axis after the Fall of France in 1940, and uses its modernized armored forces to annex the remainder of Turkey, turning the eastern third into a puppet state of Armenia, which, like Vichy France, is technically neutral in the conflict. This neutrality means that the Greeks do not join in the invasion of the Soviet Union in 1941.

However, it does not stop the British from extending the Syria-Lebanon Campaign of June 1941 into a new front: the Anatolian Front. Fighting rages along this front throughout the war (mostly because the Allies are not willing to commit large forces to what they consider a low-priority theatre), but the lands east of the newly renamed/ethnically cleansed Constantinople are secured by the time 1943 rolls around. There is a Balkan Campaign ITTL, but it is largely overshadowed by the Italian Campaign and later, the Normandy landings, enough so that it is still mostly the Soviet Union that ends up in control of the Balkans.
 
I will probably drop this since:

1. Interest seem to be minimal.
2. I already have a project on the Shared Worlds that is becoming more time consuming by the day and also need to work on my thesis.
 
I will probably drop this since:

1. Interest seem to be minimal.
2. I already have a project on the Shared Worlds that is becoming more time consuming by the day and also need to work on my thesis.

At least let us settle the tie somehow. ;)
 
At least let us settle the tie somehow. ;)

Alright, how about we settle it like this:

You will have three days to make a new maps with the caveat that they need to be based on you entries in the last round.
There will be no specific topic or restriction outside of that specified above.

Then we will have a poll and the first person who gets 5 votes will win.
 
Alright, how about we settle it like this:

You will have three days to make a new maps with the caveat that they need to be based on you entries in the last round.
There will be no specific topic or restriction outside of that specified above.

Then we will have a poll and the first person who gets 5 votes will win.
I have too much due in the next 3 days to do that; that's too fast D: I mean, I don't mind it being a tie overall. I'll miss the contests, too, but glad we got to have them. :)
 
I have too much due in the next 3 days to do that; that's too fast D: I mean, I don't mind it being a tie overall. I'll miss the contests, too, but glad we got to have them. :)
Alright then. Sorry for the disappointment but as I said I don't have nearly enough time.

Either way you may check the project that I started on the Shared Worlds (I know that this particular sub-forum has a bad reputation but it's largely unjustified). It's a worldbuilding kind of thing and any graphical contributions would be greatly appreciated. Link in my signature.
 
Alright then. Sorry for the disappointment but as I said I don't have nearly enough time.

Either way you may check the project that I started on the Shared Worlds (I know that this particular sub-forum has a bad reputation but it's largely unjustified). It's a worldbuilding kind of thing and any graphical contributions would be greatly appreciated. Link in my signature.
Sure thing. And like I said, I enjoyed the contest while it went on and thank you for holding it. :)
 
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