Ahh, William Craig. A man who truly thought he could keep control of the beast he'd summoned up in any circumstances.Along with the Visibly Sociopathic Calvinist Beaver (that'd be Rev Paisley) I'd also keep an eye out for this guy and his special-sauce flavor of Norn politics:
Which is to say that, as "McGovern Moments" diversify and go global, sometimes in the words of Anna Gaitskell all the wrong people are cheering...
George McGovern, by first winning the Democratic nomination despite opposition from the party establishment on the backs of outsider social movements (especially antiwar students) and then winning the Presidency, demonstrated that sometimes you can fight city hall, sometimes the underdog wins. Other social movements against corrupt, brutal, or otherwise dysfunctional social orders - in Greece, Brazil, and the Philippines, for example, took note of that. (And, of course, the right wing - as manifested by people like Lee Atwater and David Duke - takes its own kinds of inspiration from it...)Could you give us dear readers a definition of McGovern Moment, that would work for a text book or dictionary from this timeline?
Could you give us dear readers a definition of McGovern Moment, that would work for a text book or dictionary from this timeline?
George McGovern, by first winning the Democratic nomination despite opposition from the party establishment on the backs of outsider social movements (especially antiwar students) and then winning the Presidency, demonstrated that sometimes you can fight city hall, sometimes the underdog wins. Other social movements against corrupt, brutal, or otherwise dysfunctional social orders - in Greece, Brazil, and the Philippines, for example, took note of that. (And, of course, the right wing - as manifested by people like Lee Atwater and David Duke - takes its own kinds of inspiration from it...)
Or, for a more academic summary:
McGOVERN MOMENT, THE. A period from 1972 onward in which political movements opposed to the establishment, mostly but not exclusively peaceful left-liberal democrats, were both unusually active and unusually successful in bringing about political change in their countries. Named for US President George McGovern (1973-19██), who represented a prominent early example of the trend and an explicit inspiration to many who attempted to follow it: other notable examples include the 1973 collapse of the 'Regime of the Colonels' in Greece, the 1974 'Philippine Spring' that led to the end of the Marcos regime, and the 1974 'Events of October 8th' in Brazil that helped bring down the country's military dictatorship.
To that I'd add a few definitional characteristics that I'd call purely sociological. That is to say, they're ideologically neutral - true whether its goodhearted liberal-to-left crusaders or angry populists or irridentist ethnic/sectarian revanchists or religious fundamentalists or whoever might be having what a glib journalist might label a "McGovern Moment" This aggregation of elements probably constitutes a good value-neutral model of shared qualities.
Per that sociology of McGovern Moments, based purely on the OTL history involved, very much an example of "the leader who makes himself hostage to his followers."Ahh, William Craig. A man who truly thought he could keep control of the beast he'd summoned up in any circumstances.
One of the interesting things about the 1974 election cycle IOTL is the party platforms. I'm a bit of a sucker for platforms, as an opportunity to analyze internal party politics (competing goals/visions cobbled together into a pamphlet), as political cover for parties at the polls (a measure of what patter they think is necessary to get elected, more than their intent), and sometimes as a sincere expression of where a party's policy goals and principles happen to be, whether they ended up winning office or not.
In that context the Liberal platform is especially interesting. Not just because it diverges from the Conservative and Labour platforms - it does - but because of how it does that. Some analysts have described the Liberal platform of that time as muddled or odd or overly complex, all of which I think misreads it.
The interesting thing to me about the Liberal platform - if you look at the policy planks and compare them to other European parties, rather than assume a British exceptionalism - is that really it looks an awful lot like a sort of Christian Democracy British Style. It's shorn of those explicitly religious foundations, despite the Liberals' distinctive Nonconformist roots, a lot of what makes it tick, the ways in which it's a distinctive hodgepodge of right and left and more traditionally Liberal elements, has a lot of parts that wouldn't necessarily be out of place in a CDU or Italian DC platform somewhere during the Sixties or Seventies. Which in some ways marks its place as well down a path of divergence in British Liberalism begun during the Asquith government(s) but also points it out as a distinctive third way.
Also, despite the efforts of folk like Oily Jeremy himself to paint the Liberals as basically liberal-conservative, the platform reads different from that. Elements like UBI, nationalization of North Sea Oil, a permanent prices and incomes policy intended to reunify the country around a central economic compact rather than fracture it between capital and labor, all that sort of stuff sounds like Christian Democracy when it's at home. Especially a real mélange of the German and Italian flavors.
Which is not an endorsement of that platform but it is something that seems to have garnered little academic or other professional notice yet makes it an intriguing approach. Also one that rhymes in places with McGovernment - a sort of Christian-Left social democracy can be seen in many facets of McGovernism.
Also, because the Liberal Party was a small enough town that the voices in one guy's head play a significant role, all the talk of grand compacts and restored national unity and the essential role of clever, unorthodox solutions really does read like Slick Jezza saying I'M INDISPENSABLE LOVE ME DAMMIT.
As far as I could tell, Northern Unionists as a society lived and died on paranoia, especially prior to the start and in the early years of The Troubles. A lot of the popular narrative spread around was (X) IS GOING TO GIVE US TO THE REPUBLIC! kind of stuff. Whether that be Labour, The Eternally Suffering Captain O'Neill, or even at points the British Army. It feels almost like Grandpa Simpson pointing around and calling everything DEAAAAAAAAATH! but replace Death with Popery.Which is to say that, as "McGovern Moments" diversify and go global, sometimes in the words of Anna Gaitskell all the wrong people are cheering...
Oh, god, another question. I don't mean to clog the chat, so let me know if I'm overdoing it.
Ever since I stumbled upon the existence of a certain hate-spewing amphibian-loving leftist mayor/council leader of London, I have had a minor to severe obsession with state, local and municipal politics in both Britain, and, in what holds more relevance here, the US. It can often be hard to find the bits and pieces of these (and also, Dick Daley isn't dead yet in canon so I can't ask questions about Chicago) but considering you're the guy who made a google doc featuring the entire bits and pieces of every NFL season of the entire 1970's in granular detail, I was wondering if you had any tidbits on what was happening on the state and local level in some US states and cities across the country. Just anything you got, really.
Rizzo is one of the worst people north of Mason-Dixon to achieve serious power in the American 20th Century, and that’s fucking saying something. It’s good that he did not in fact crawl up to reach the senate, but the sooner McGoverning’s Philly can shake that toad of a man is the sooner that Penn can be a brighter place.No worries! We will, in time, see what's up in Hizzoner's city as his health declines, but that will take a little longer to get to. This is my opportunity to note that in Everything is Drafted and Everything is Subject to Change canon, Herman Badillo is currently (as of 1974-75 period) Mayor of New York, its first Puertorriqueno mayor and, given what the FALN is up to in the Seventies, potentially subject of some interesting narrative notes. Maynard Jackson did win his race in Atlanta, likewise Coleman Young in Detroit, Tom Bradley in LA too. As noted Mayor Rizzo in Philly made a grab at a Senate set but fell short in the McGovern Midterms, but he's still ensconced in city hall, dammit. There may be some interesting developments in other West Coast cities also. Moon Landrieu is very much in charge down in Nawlins but also living with the double-edged sword of being McGovernment-adjacent. Dick Lugar did indeed jump up from being mayor of Indianapolis to the Senate in '74 (guess we can quit you, Birch...) while, as @GDIS Pathe noted a page back, Nevada's young and ambitious lieutenant governor may yet feel the pull of municipal politics, at least to some degree. I would note for @Wolfram that it's canonical IMyTL, indeed probably prohibitive in most TLs, that Fred Hofheinz took up his dad's old job in Houston in '74 and at this stage remains one of the bright young things of Texas Democratic politics. I'm sure I'll think of some other cases/instances in time.
View attachment 755494I dunno why y’all are besmirching Mayor “crumb-bum” Rizzo like this, it’s not like he deployed helicopters on bombing runs
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Rizzo is one of the worst people north of Mason-Dixon to achieve serious power in the American 20th Century, and that’s fucking saying something. It’s good that he did not in fact crawl up to reach the senate, but the sooner McGoverning’s Philly can shake that toad of a man is the sooner that Penn can be a brighter place.
Badillo is a man I have never heard of in my life, which really just proves that I have to add “Post-War NYC politics” to the pile of things I want to read about with nine billion other things. I have noted that he was a Borough President, a role that has in no way engendered any kind of future ma-
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What a city.
Truly for most of the 20th century NYC was pre-1990 Yugoslavia on the Hudson. A complex dance of ethnic and indeed sectarian alliances, oppositions, balancing acts, quotas, and protestations.
Just the 20th century?
Remember, Boss Tweed's career came to an end in part because he failed to handle the tensions between the city's Irish and its Scot-Irish.
Just the 20th century?
Remember, Boss Tweed's career came to an end in part because he failed to handle the tensions between the city's Irish and its Scot-Irish.