Interesting, though I'll admit I planned on making a map based on the games, though that would require me playing the games (I'm currently on 3 btw).
That's from the site Euratlas, which has a map of the beginning of every century in Europe from 1 AD to 2000 AD.Since I found a similar map years ago (can't quite remember where, it might've even been here) I'd say it's rather adequate.
Interesting, though I'll admit I planned on making a map based on the games, though that would require me playing the games (I'm currently on 3 btw).
Same with mine on Metal Slug; and you can call it not hardcore AH material given that originated in an arcade system (and trying to make a realistic world usually isn't on the top of the list when making arcade games).I haven't gotten to play the games so far and my map above is admittedly pulled out of my ass. It's a good thing game settings are usually not hardcore AH/FH
A rather simple alternate interwar scenario, with the basic idea being a harsher Treaty of Versailles moving the German border east of the Rhine. Butterflies ensue. Here are a few details that aren't on the map but which kinda serve as extra material instead of a full write-up:
- Luxembourg was made to join Belgium over security concerns. Since nationalism in Luxembourg wasn't (and arguably isn't) much of a thing anyways, they didn't mind that much, since they gained the Land of Arlon for their province (the remainder of old Belgian Luxembourg was renamed Ardennes) and they have cultural rights.
- South Germany still has its old royal houses in Bavaria, Wuerttemberg and Baden. Hessian Starkenburg and Hohenzollern are separate states without their own monarchy, instead their monarch is the president of the South German Confederation aka the King of Bavaria.
- Regarding the men who would IOTL become part of the Nazi elite: Hitler died in 1930, shot with his own gun by his half-nice Geli in self-defense after he attempted to force himself onto her. Goebbels is an obscure far-right author and philosopher, who isolates himself in his home town of Rheydt. The Strasser brothers are the leaders of the Free Worker's Party, a minor third-way party in South Germany. Hermann Göring lives in Sweden, where he runs a small private aviation firm, while spending his free time with minor Swedish aristocrats. Joachim von Ribbentrop has recently taken over his father-in-law's wine business. Himmler died in 1923, one of the few deaths in TTL's Beer Hall Putsch attempt.
- The Soviet Union is led by Lev Kamenev, because the struggle between Stalin and Trotsky turned deadly for both of them ITTL. Kamenev's moderation has led to the USSR being quite centralized and following the "socialism in one country" train of thought, so in that regard its comparable to Stalin's Soviet Union. However he is far less paranoid and brutal internally, so there haven't really been any major purges.
- A WW2-type event is not guaranteed to happen. Anti-semitism is very much prevalent in Eastern Europe, while comparatively fringe in Central and Western Europe (but still a problem, of course).
Finally got this bad-boy done. And while I tried to put most of the important stuff on the map... Here's its description from deviantArt, which mostly covers questions which were already asked here but which I'm too lazy to quote again Enjoy, and I always appreciate comments, questions, and feedback.
Finally got this bad-boy done. And while I tried to put most of the important stuff on the map... Here's its description from deviantArt, which mostly covers questions which were already asked here but which I'm too lazy to quote again Enjoy, and I always appreciate comments, questions, and feedback.
I have to say I really love your colour palette. It's so satisfying.
If there isn't any major WWII-esque event how would it break down? Presuming that Little Entente and Warsaw-Budapest Pact do come to blows could it end up spilling into neighbouring countries? I'd be pretty antsy if I were say, Czechoslovakia, about any destabilising conflict with those fascists next door.
Also is Britain's debt situation any better than OTL? Worse? Or so similar to OTL to be inconsequential, I imagine Germany being split int two must do some weird things in regards to reparations.
Norway's claim is almost ludicrous?
Think a Japanese-Soviet war is far from unlikely: the Soviets have little to fear from the west and plenty of incentive to at least help the Chinese keep bleeding the Japanese.
"or so." being how long of a time variable?This scenario involves the United States from 1940 being ISOTed to the year 1700. The map takes place in 1800, as does this write-up. I’ll follow up with the reverse scenario in a week or so.
"or so." being how long of a time variable?
Cool-Eh inspired me to start working on this. The Americas are all that's finished. It's been twenty years (1960) since the land comprising the former United States was replaced with its 1700 counterparts. Canada and Mexico are the primary exploiters of the former COTUS.
I have to say that you did a fantastic job with the North American borders! I wouldn't have expected it, but the borders/colors really do make that portion of the map pop. Can't wait to see the final map.
Thanks! For the most part, I tried to follow the 'borders' of this map for North American tribal civilizations, with the assumption of cultural migration, general inaccuracies, and being pretty forgiving to myself when it comes to being inaccurate. I'll happily admit that my map is most likely inaccurate for at least sixty percent of the tribes, but it's more meant to be a representation of where those tribes are in general.
Oh wow! That's a fantastic find. Thanks for posting that map as a resource. And considering the lack of documented evidence for tribal borders, I'm pretty sure you're doing just fine.
With that said, how finalized (in-universe) are the interior borders? Is there still any sort of flux after 20 years?
Thank you.
When I said 'cultural migration', I meant both in how 1700 differs from when that map takes place, as well as migration post-ISOT.
You're welcome.
Still, I think I must have worded my question poorly. What I basically meant to ask was are there any conflicting territorial claims between all the new states in the old US or has everything been politically settled by 1960?
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The map is excellent, Siegfried!
I also like your method of marking WIPs with question marks, rather than obscuring huge portions of the map with the letters "WIP" themselves.