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So this time in my series of alterated/wank Italy, i have an alternative Fascist Italy in alternative WWII.

Essentially, the POD was a direct intervention of Italy in Spanish Civil War after the shooting of Franco, leading to Fascist-Nationalist victory and to instauration of a new Spanish monarchy with a Fascist government under the Savoia-Aosta dynasty; Italy as reward gained all the Spanish African territories.

The victory in Spain convinced Mussolini to create his alliance system in Mediterranean and Balkans, deciding to not signed the Iron Pact ( and so no racial laws) but only the Anti-Comintern Pact. Italy managed to attract into its orbit Portugal and Hungary, and in a first moment also Bulgaria.

In the start of WWII, Italy made its own war with its allies invading Iugoslavia in 1939 and in 1940 Greece, with the silent approval of both Allies and Germany. After the fall of France, Syria and Lebanon seeked protection from Italy, while in Palestine many Hebrews started to settle in the area thanks to Italian funds. Towards the end of 1940 also Romania, which refused to cede Transilvania to Hungary, was invaded and divided but this damaged the Italo-German relations, because Hitler wanted that nation as a base for invasion of USSR.

In 1941, while Germany started to invaded USSR, Turkey attacked Syria, but because Bulgaria refused to enter into the war, Italy occupied both countries and consolidate its holdings in Middle East. In 1942 Egypt ( where also the Suez Canal was occupied), Palestine, Transjordan and Iraq forced the British to retire, starting in the principle good relations with Italy: and also Sudan revolted to the British.

However, between 1943 and 1944 all these countries, with also Syria and Lebanon, attacked the Hebrew settlements in Palestine, forcing Italy to intervene. Syria, Lebanon, Palestine ( which assumed the name of Israel from that point), Egypt were directly annexed; Transjordan and Iraq became puppets. In 1945, the Empire of Italy was proclaimed, Mussolini assumed the title of "Duce Console", the two chambers of Parliament merged in a single, massive "Imperial Senate". When the Soviets approached Berlin, in april of that year the Empire and its allies declared war on the Third Reich, occuping Austria. However, the great winner of WWII was Stalin, which occupied almost all of Germany, Poland, Finland ( directly annexed into the Socialist Union), Norway and Denmark, in Far Asia Manchuria and all of Korea, and also parts of Belgium and Netherlands, relinquished to the Allies in exchange for their (relative little) occupied part of Germany.

In the negotiation between the allies, Italy for the recognition of its conquests ceded all of AOL ("A necessary sacrifice", said Ciano to Mussolini) and all of previously Spanish lands in Africa to France and Britain; in exchange he obtained control over Cyprus (too far for Britain to protect anymore) while the Maltese question remained unsettled. France was more advantaged from the Italian question,and obtained also the northern part of Sudan ( which was called Nubia) when French and British forces invaded the region to restore control: so, the African French colonies now extended from Atlantic to the Red Sea.

The Italian colonists in AOI were resettled in Middle East, specially in Israel, where the Hebrews, many adopting the Fascist way, became one of the most loyalists people of all the Empire, while the Islamic populations badly accepted the "Christian-Jewish" servage, many became partisans or terrorists.

Austria merged to Hungary, forming a renewed Austro-Hungarian Empire under the Hapsburg dynasty, which served as a buffer state for Italy against USSR and its puppets..

The map is around 1946-1947.

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Da, very gud, Central Russian map RGB.

Here's mine...Insane Commie-Sino wank, ....yeah I was bored.

Hm. I was thinking of doing one of these myself, but the scenario involved a WWIII which China stayed out, and I realized I'm sick and tired of doing atomic-war-smashed Europes... :(

Bruce
 
So this time in my series of alterated/wank Italy, i have an alternative Fascist Italy in alternative WWII.

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In the start of WWII, Italy made its own war with its allies invading Iugoslavia in 1939 and in 1940 Greece, with the silent approval of both Allies and Germany. After the fall of France, Syria and Lebanon seeked protection from Italy, while in Palestine many Hebrews started to settle in the area thanks to Italian funds. Towards the end of 1940 also Romania, which refused to cede Transilvania to Hungary, was invaded and divided but this damaged the Italo-German relations, because Hitler wanted that nation as a base for invasion of USSR.

In 1941, while Germany started to invaded USSR, Turkey attacked Syria, but because Bulgaria refused to enter into the war, Italy occupied both countries and consolidate its holdings in Middle East. In 1942 Egypt ( where also the Suez Canal was occupied), Palestine, Transjordan and Iraq forced the British to retire, starting in the principle good relations with Italy: and also Sudan revolted to the British.

However, between 1943 and 1944 all these countries, with also Syria and Lebanon, attacked the Hebrew settlements in Palestine, forcing Italy to intervene. Syria, Lebanon, Palestine ( which assumed the name of Israel from that point), Egypt were directly annexed; Transjordan and Iraq became puppets. In 1945, the Empire of Italy was proclaimed, Mussolini assumed the title of "Duce Console", the two chambers of Parliament merged in a single, massive "Imperial Senate".

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In the negotiation between the allies, Italy for the recognition of its conquests ceded all of AOL ("A necessary sacrifice", said Ciano to Mussolini) and all of previously Spanish lands in Africa to France and Britain; in exchange he obtained control over Cyprus (too far for Britain to protect anymore) while the Maltese question remained unsettled.

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Sorry for being rather crude, but I didn't know Italy began crapping Atomic Supermen to conquer the world. Seriously, though, while... in the realm of plausibility, the Italian military was ill-prepared, and ill-equipped for even the invasion of Yugoslavia, much less all the rest. And Turkey's military at this time was nothing to shake a finger at - I really think one and one, Turkey might remind Italy of Ethiopia, nevermind all of Italy's other obligations you suggest.

And there's just no bloody way the Allies will turn a blind eye to all of that nonsense in Greece, Cyprus, and whatnot.
 
So this time in my series of alterated/wank Italy, i have an alternative Fascist Italy in alternative WWII.

Essentially, the POD was a direct intervention of Italy in Spanish Civil War after the shooting of Franco, leading to Fascist-Nationalist victory and to instauration of a new Spanish monarchy with a Fascist government under the Savoia-Aosta dynasty; Italy as reward gained all the Spanish African territories.

The victory in Spain convinced Mussolini to create his alliance system in Mediterranean and Balkans, deciding to not signed the Iron Pact ( and so no racial laws) but only the Anti-Comintern Pact. Italy managed to attract into its orbit Portugal and Hungary, and in a first moment also Bulgaria.

In the start of WWII, Italy made its own war with its allies invading Iugoslavia in 1939 and in 1940 Greece, with the silent approval of both Allies and Germany. After the fall of France, Syria and Lebanon seeked protection from Italy, while in Palestine many Hebrews started to settle in the area thanks to Italian funds. Towards the end of 1940 also Romania, which refused to cede Transilvania to Hungary, was invaded and divided but this damaged the Italo-German relations, because Hitler wanted that nation as a base for invasion of USSR.

In 1941, while Germany started to invaded USSR, Turkey attacked Syria, but because Bulgaria refused to enter into the war, Italy occupied both countries and consolidate its holdings in Middle East. In 1942 Egypt ( where also the Suez Canal was occupied), Palestine, Transjordan and Iraq forced the British to retire, starting in the principle good relations with Italy: and also Sudan revolted to the British.

However, between 1943 and 1944 all these countries, with also Syria and Lebanon, attacked the Hebrew settlements in Palestine, forcing Italy to intervene. Syria, Lebanon, Palestine ( which assumed the name of Israel from that point), Egypt were directly annexed; Transjordan and Iraq became puppets. In 1945, the Empire of Italy was proclaimed, Mussolini assumed the title of "Duce Console", the two chambers of Parliament merged in a single, massive "Imperial Senate". When the Soviets approached Berlin, in april of that year the Empire and its allies declared war on the Third Reich, occuping Austria. However, the great winner of WWII was Stalin, which occupied almost all of Germany, Poland, Finland ( directly annexed into the Socialist Union), Norway and Denmark, in Far Asia Manchuria and all of Korea, and also parts of Belgium and Netherlands, relinquished to the Allies in exchange for their (relative little) occupied part of Germany.

In the negotiation between the allies, Italy for the recognition of its conquests ceded all of AOL ("A necessary sacrifice", said Ciano to Mussolini) and all of previously Spanish lands in Africa to France and Britain; in exchange he obtained control over Cyprus (too far for Britain to protect anymore) while the Maltese question remained unsettled. France was more advantaged from the Italian question,and obtained also the northern part of Sudan ( which was called Nubia) when French and British forces invaded the region to restore control: so, the African French colonies now extended from Atlantic to the Red Sea.

The Italian colonists in AOI were resettled in Middle East, specially in Israel, where the Hebrews, many adopting the Fascist way, became one of the most loyalists people of all the Empire, while the Islamic populations badly accepted the "Christian-Jewish" servage, many became partisans or terrorists.

Austria merged to Hungary, forming a renewed Austro-Hungarian Empire under the Hapsburg dynasty, which served as a buffer state for Italy against USSR and its puppets..

The map is around 1946-1947.

-Habsburgs cant become rulers in Austria
-Why hungary want to merge with Austria?
-Why would the French Take Eritrea, Ethiopia and Worthless Northern Sudan?
-Manchuria is a core part of China, and the Republic of china has Soviet support.
-Finland stalemated the Soviets in the Winter War.
-Why would an Empire be founded? Nobody else founded an empire in such circumstances.
-Why would Sudan Revolt against Britain?
-Why would Britain lose against Italy in Egypt? They had Mr.Magician there who obliterated the Italian army in OTL.
-Texas, Sudan, Mexico, and many other places have Oil for Britain.
-Why would Romania die because of Transylvania?
-Why would ITaly want to give Hungary Transylvania?
-Why would Turkey declare war on Italy in such Circumstances?
-Why would Sapin give away it prestige?
-A FACIST MONARCHY!?!?!
 
-Why would the French Take Eritrea, Ethiopia and Worthless Northern Sudan? [1]
-Manchuria is a core part of China, and the Republic of china has Soviet support. [2]
-Finland stalemated the Soviets in the Winter War. [3]
-Why would Sudan Revolt against Britain? [4]

Not that I support the scenario, but...

[1] Fashoda Incident, look it up.
[2] Depends on who you ask and when you ask them, the Manchu might consider themselves separate from China.
[3] Um... what? Pretty sure the Finns were defeated soundly after being inundated with Red Army troops, though they did put up a good fight.
[4] Ask the Mahdi...
 
Not that I support the scenario, but...

[1] Fashoda Incident, look it up.
[2] Depends on who you ask and when you ask them, the Manchu might consider themselves separate from China.
[3] Um... what? Pretty sure the Finns were defeated soundly after being inundated with Red Army troops, though they did put up a good fight.
[4] Ask the Mahdi...

[1]Aggrements made many years ago goes against the ideas the map gives, made after the Fashoda Incident because of the Fashoda Incidnet.
[2] Manchuria has ben populated with Han Chinese since the mid 19th century.
[3] They gave up Finnish Karelia and a small strip of land that connected FInland to the artic in two wars.
[4] Who?
 
-Habsburgs cant become rulers in Austria
-Why hungary want to merge with Austria?
-Why would the French Take Eritrea, Ethiopia and Worthless Northern Sudan?
-Manchuria is a core part of China, and the Republic of china has Soviet support.
-Finland stalemated the Soviets in the Winter War.
-Why would an Empire be founded? Nobody else founded an empire in such circumstances.
-Why would Sudan Revolt against Britain?
-Why would Britain lose against Italy in Egypt? They had Mr.Magician there who obliterated the Italian army in OTL.
-Texas, Sudan, Mexico, and many other places have Oil for Britain.
-Why would Romania die because of Transylvania?
-Why would ITaly want to give Hungary Transylvania?
-Why would Turkey declare war on Italy in such Circumstances?
-Why would Sapin give away it prestige?
-A FACIST MONARCHY!?!?!

-In Austria no, but in Hungary yes...
- Remember until Soviet occupation Hungary was a monarchy without a king...
- As a recompensation for balancing the Italian power; also, France wanted Sudan, but Fashoda didn't valued at war with Britain...
- In 1945 USSR occupied Manchuria, so de fact was under government of Chinese Communists; it was from Manchuria the Communists launched the final conquest of mainland China.
- But later Finland joined the German attack.
- Why not?
- The British crumbled in all Middle East, so the loss of Egypt implied that of Sudan.
- Britain and Italy weren't in war... UK evacuated Egypt.
- Maybe so.
- For pride.
- compensation.
- it thought Italy didn'y intervene.
- pratically was under Italian occupation.
- Fascism didn't developed in a kingdom?
 
-In Austria no, but in Hungary yes...
- Remember until Soviet occupation Hungary was a monarchy without a king...
- As a recompensation for balancing the Italian power; also, France wanted Sudan, but Fashoda didn't valued at war with Britain...
- In 1945 USSR occupied Manchuria, so de fact was under government of Chinese Communists; it was from Manchuria the Communists launched the final conquest of mainland China.
- But later Finland joined the German attack.
- Why not?
- The British crumbled in all Middle East, so the loss of Egypt implied that of Sudan.
- Britain and Italy weren't in war... UK evacuated Egypt.
- Maybe so.
- For pride.
- compensation.
- it thought Italy didn'y intervene.
- pratically was under Italian occupation.
- Fascism didn't developed in a kingdom?
-It still breaks Austria`s law, so it cant happen.
-Which could`nt happen, as Britain would be fighting the war still.
-Occupied Manchuria, because of Manchukuo, they still supported the ROC.
-In OTL, not much happened to Finland because of WWII.
-Why so?
-China did not Crumble, nor did the Soviets, Polish, Germans, etc. because of ocuppied regions.
- Why would the Evacuate one of there most important teritories?
- Romania would be forced to do it, like what happend in OTL.
- Turkey was`nt like that in OTL.
- Frence did`nt give away its colonies because it was occupied.
- Does`nt matter if Fascism developed in a Monarchy, it matters if the nation was ruled by Fascism.
 
Continuing with this Series of Maps based on the iPod Touch game European War 2 and my last post. and yes its supposed to be kinda off asb..

France continues it advance into the Low countries, Italy and Spain
Poland continues to take a beating
Soviets and Romanians continue to duke it out, and as do Turkey and Bulgaria

Britain is still preparing its military for the war against Germany

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-in the Kingdom of Italy fascism were developet and the coutry were ruled by the fascists

Is not correct.
Parliament and Senate can eliminate the fascist presence in Italian government when Mussolini have formed his first government.
Using for accuse the Matteotti crime (is not sure Mussolini have order to kill Matteotti, but is probable).
In other situations the institutions of the state can avert Mussolini, but they can not make nothing. At last time, the same incompetent political peoples have blamed the King Vittorio Emanuele III and his son Umberto II di Savoia for the situation of the Italy during the IIWW until at 1943.

I have a map of an alternative timeline of north-america and europe political evolution. It is center in the year 1943.
 

Jokerang

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The new Republican nightmare, featuring uprisings in New England, a revived Soviet Union, the Southwest overrun by aliens, and worst of all, a joint PRC/North Korean invasion of the West Coast.

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So, I have modified this map found in this same thread, sorry.
But...
This map is the result of a my new alternative timeline history. There are some interesting things: CSA, the rule of Italy during the IIWW etc...
The timeline for now is still incomplete, but, this is a sample:

- 1948 - Carlo Alberto di Savoia write the Albertine Statute;
- 1° March - First War of Independence against Empire of Austria;
- 1859 - Second War of Independence // Alliance Savoia-Napoleone III // annexation of Lombardia;
- 1860 - “Expedition of Thousand” against Kingdom of Two Sicily of Garibaldi // Vittorio Emanuele II invade Marche and Umbria;
- 1861 - Proclamation of Kingdom of Italy with Vittorio Emanuele II as a King;
- 1862/65 - Garibaldi come called to aid in the American Civil War;
- 1864/65 - Garibaldi is able to manage an agreement with Union and Confederation for put peace between the two parts of America // Garibaldi take part in the commemoration for the fallens during the war // Start a clime of relaxation between CSA and USA;
- 1866 - Third War of Independence // Veneto and Mantova join the Kingdom of Italy;
- 1870 September 20 – Italian Army enter in Rome // October 2 Roman Provinces join the Kingdom of Italy;
- 1878 - murder of Umberto I di Savoia // succeed Amedeo Duke of Aosta;
- 1915 - First World War // Italy fight by the Allies side;
- 1917 - Defeat of Caporetto, Austria and Germany invade Italy and they were stopped on the river Piave;
- 1918 October 28/29 - Armando Diaz lead Italian Army at a decisive victory against Austrian Empire and Germany with the support of light CSA army units;
- 1919 - End of First World War // the concessions complain by CSA and Italy can not grant;
- 1922 - Tensions for new political movements (Fascist and Communist) in Italy;
- 1924 - Murder Matteotti // Mussolini was avert from political houses of Italy;
- 1934 - Tensions between Kingdom of Italy and Austria after the compromise coup d'état // Italian troops move to Austrian border;
- 1934 August 2 - Hitler Fuhrer;
- 1936 - War in Ethiopia // suspend for order of Society of Nations;
- 1938 - Annexation of Austria to Germany // tensions at the Italy borders;
- 1939 - Germany invade Poland;

And the map of this alternative 1943
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The next fase view the formation of two different types of "Allies": USA, UK, France and later for a short time the Soviet Union.
The second formation are composite by: Italy, CSA and later Turkish Empire and Japan.
Japan and Italy receive support from CSA for the war, Nazist Germany invade East Europe for reach the middle orient petroil extraction points.
The siege of Istambul is probably one of the most important event of this alternative war as like the failed invasion of Italy in two steps (occupation of Po Valley and the Battle for Rome [with the direct support of CSA army]).
During the 1944-5 the are some important rebel movements in France and Iran, Afghanistan and African countries. France devastated by the war against Germany transfer the government and military/industrial complex in Algeria and a large part of population follow this transfert.
CSA were involved into the war in a second phase, during the counter-attack of the allies. Eisenower lead the US/UK/France forces to Berlin, Stalin the same, CSA and Italy move in the Balcan-Danubian region for occupate territory and stabilize the region this about in the 1946.
 

Mathuen

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The new Republican nightmare, featuring uprisings in New England, a revived Soviet Union, the Southwest overrun by aliens, and worst of all, a joint PRC/North Korean invasion of the West Coast.

You forgot some things... Super France, The Caliphate (strait from Glenn Beck's mind) and The Super-Fabulous LGBT Republic!

:D;):D;):D;):D;):D;):D;):D;):D;):D

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A bit off topic... but I just love how everyone essentially forgot about Egypt after Mumbarak stepped down.. :rolleyes:

Sure all take a stab...(That sounded wrong.)
(ASB) A few years after the global revolution...

-Most the Arab world unites sort of.
-The United States is collapsing with a huge variety of different rebellions taking place across the states all different.
-The Asian Comintern powers went all postal on the rest of Asia.
-Germany, France, Belgium and Luxembourg became fully "federalized" into the EU.
-A Scandinavian Technocratic revolt is taking place in Sweden.

The freaken world has gone batshit I tell you!!:eek:
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