List of Alternate Presidents and PMs II

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I think that is a much better color for the Whigs and/or third parties than yellow.

Yellow is so damn hard to read, especially on the phone.

Also, I take it Sinclair was a successful Governor or Senator from California?

Yep, I agree about Whigh color: I have a damned headache every time I tri to read a yellow line.

Sinclair is elected Governor of California in 1934, due a less interventionist New Deal under Teddy Jr.

How does Tilden leave office? Assassination?

Yes, Tilden is assassinated by Charles Guiteau, who accused him to stole the election and so preventing his nomination as Ambassador by a Republican President who Guiteau supported.
 
President of the Executive Provisional Council
1.Zhao Erfeng† (Nonpartisan)
(March 1st,1912-April 15th,1912)
2.Li Yuanhong (Nonpartisan)
(April 15th,1912-August 4th,1913)

3.Feng Guozhang (Military)
(August 4th,1913-September 10th,1914)


President of the Republic of China
1. Feng Guozhang (Military)
(September 10th,1914-April 10th,1922)

1914 Def: Sun Yat-Sen (Democratic)
1918 Def: Sun Yat-Sen (Democratic)

2.Zhang Jiang (Nonpartisan)
(April 10th,1922-July 1st,1923)

1922 Def: Sun Yat-Sen (Democratic)
3. Liang Qichao (Progressive)
(July 1st,1923-January 10th,1924)

4. Feng Guozhang (Military)
(January 10th,1924-July 15th,1926)

5. Sun Yat-Sen (Democratic)
(July 15th,1926-July 15th,1929)

1926 Def: Feng Guozhang (Military)
6. Yan Xishan (Nationalist)
(July 15th,1929-August 3rd,1939)

7.Li Liejun (Military)
(August 3rd,1939-January 3rd,1940)

8. Mao Zedong† (National Protectionist Alliance)
(January 3rd,1940-January 20th,1943)

9. Chiang Kai-shek (National Protectionist Alliance)
(January 3rd,1943-January 3rd,1949)


Chairman of the Executive Council
1. Yan Xishan (Nationalist)
(January 3rd,1949-January 3rd,1959)
2.Chiang Kai-shek (Nationalist)
(January 3rd,1959-April 10th,1959)


President of the Republic of China
10. Tsarong† (Independent)
(April 10th,1959- May 14th,1959)

11. Wellington Koo (Democratic Independence Alliance )
(May 14th,1959-January 14th,1969)

1960 Def: Chiang Kai-shek (Nationalist)
1964 Def: Li Zongren (Nationalist)

12.Zhao Enlai (Socialist)
(January 14th,1969-January 14th,1973)

1968 Def: Wellington Koo (Democratic Independence Alliance)
13. Wellington Koo (Democratic Independence Alliance)
(January 14th,1973-August 3rd,1975)

1972 Def: Mao Zedong (Socialist)
14.Jiang Qing (Revolutionary Pact)
(August 3rd,1975-September 3rd,1975)

15.Zhang Chunqiao (Military)
(September 3rd,1975-January 1st, 1976)


President of the Executive Military Council
1. Zhang Chunqiao (Military)
(January 1st,1976-January 1st,2005)

President of the Republic of China
16.Qian Qichen (Social Virtue)
(January 1st,2005-January 1st,2015)

2005 Def: Wan Li (Moderate) James Shen (Democratic Independence Alliance)
2010 Def: Li Peng (Together For China's Bright Future)

17. Li Peng (Military)
(January 1st,2015-present)

2015 Def: unopposed

† Died in office
 
No FDR, Authoritarianism instead

32. Al Smith (Democratic) 1933-1936 [Resigned]
1932: Herbert Hoover (Republican)
33. John Nance Garner (Democratic) 1936 [Resigned]
34. Douglas MacArthur (National Union) 1936-1937 [As Acting President], 1937-1961

1936: Upton Sinclair (Social Democratic)
1940: Unopposed
1944: Unopposed
1948: Unopposed
1952: Unopposed
1956: Various

35. Richard Nixon (Federalist) 1961-1994 [Died]
1960: Adlai Stevenson (Social Progress)
1964: Various
1968:
Eugene McCarthy (Social Progress)
1972: George McGovern (Social Progress)
1976: Various
1980:
Roger MacBride (Indepenence & Liberty), Ron Dellums (Social Progress)
1984: Jesse Jackson (Social Progress)
1988: Jesse Jackson (Social Progress), Ron Paul (Independence & Liberty), Pat Robertson (Evangelical Revolution)
1992: Pat Buchanan (Constitution), Jesse Jackson (Social Progress)
36. George H.W. Bush (Federalist) 1994-2001
1996: Pat Buchanan (Constitution), Douglas Wilder (Social Progress)
37. George W. Bush (Federalist) 2001 [Killed]
2000: Ralph Nader (Social Progress), Pat Buchanan (Constitution)
38. Colin Powell (Federalist-Military) 2001-2005
3
9. Wesley Clark (Military-National Union) 2005-2009

2004: Various
40. Barack Obama (Social Progress-Independent) 2009-Present
2008: Mike Huckabee (Constitution)
2012: Rick Santorum (Constitution)

....because there must be at least one term of Obama/Biden....
 
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No FDR, Authoritarianism instead

32. Al Smith (Democratic) 1933-1936 [Resigned]
1932: Herbert HoNover (Republican)
33. John Nance Garner (Democratic) 1936 [Resigned]
34. Douglas MacArthur (National Union) 1936-1937 [As Acting President], 1937-1961

1936: Upton Sinclair (Social Democratic)
1940: Unopposed
1944: Unopposed
1948: Unopposed
1952: Unopposed
1956: Various

35. Richard Nixon (Federalist) 1961-1994 [Died]
1960: Adlai Stevenson (Social Progress)
1964: Various
1968:
Eugene McCarthy (Social Progress)
1972: George McGovern (Social Progress)
1976: Various
1980:
Roger MacBride (Indepenence & Liberty), Ron Dellums (Social Progress)
1984: Jesse Jackson (Social Progress)
1988: Jesse Jackson (Social Progress), Ron Paul (Independence & Liberty), Pat Robertson (Evangelical Revolution)
1992: Pat Buchanan (Constitution), Jesse Jackson (Social Progress)
36. George H.W. Bush (Federalist) 1994-2001
1996: Pat Buchanan (Constitution), Douglas Wilder (Social Progress)
37. George W. Bush (Federalist) 2001 [Killed]
2000: Ralph Nader (Social Progress), Pat Buchanan (Constitution)
38. Colin Powell (Federalist-Military) 2001-2005
3
9. Wesley Clark (Military-National Union) 2005-2009

2004: Various
40. Barack Obama (Social Progress-Independent) 2009-Present
2008: Mike Huckabee (Constitution)
2012: Rick Santorum (Constitution)

....because there must be at least one term of Obama/Biden....
This list is fantastic!
 
List of Secretary-Generals of the United Nations
Trygve Lie (Norway) 1946-1952
Nasrollah Entezam (Iran) 1952-1961
Chakravithi V. Narasimhan (India ) 1961-1967
Endelkechew Makonnen (Ethiopia) 1967-1971
Max Jakobson (Finland) 1971-1981
Prince Sadruddin Aga Khan (France/Iran/Switzerland) 1981-1987
Hans van den Broek (Netherlands) 1987-1996
Amara Essy (Ivory Coast) 1996-2006
Surakiart Sathirathai (Thailand) 2006-2016
Natalia Gherman (Moldova) 2016-
 
Prime Ministers of Canada:

Arthur Meighen (Conservative-Ontario) 1926-1927
William Lloyd Mackenzie King (Liberal-Ontario) 1927-1931
Hugh Guthrie (Conservative-Ontario) 1931-1935
William Lloyd Mackenzie King (Liberal-Ontario) 1935-1946
Henry Herbert Stevens (Conservative-British Columbia) 1946-1954
Donald Methuen Fleming (Conservative-Ontario) 1954-1958

Clarence Decatur Howe (Liberal-Ontario) 1958-1960 [Died in Office]
Lester Bowles Pearson (Liberal-Ontario) 1960-1969
Paul Theodore Hellyer (Liberal-Ontario) 1969-1970

Dufferin "Duff" Roblin (Conservative-Manitoba) 1970-1974
Pierre Trudeau (Liberal-Quebec) 1974-1978
Claude Wagner (Conservative-Quebec) 1978-1979 [Died in Office]
Flora Isabel McDonald (Conservative-Nova Scotia) 1979-1982

Donald Stovel Macdonald (Liberal-Ontario) 1982-1994
Joe Clark (Conservative-Alberta) 1994-1996

John Crosbie (Conservative-Newfoundland) 1996-1998
John Turner (Liberal-British Columbia) 1998-2006
Stockwell Day (Reform Conservative Alliance-Ontario) 2006-2010
Jack Layton (New Progressive Party-Ontario) 2010-2011 [Died in Office]
Peggy Nash (New Progressive Party-Ontario) 2011-2015

Stephen Harper (Reform Conservative Alliance-Ontario) 2015-2019
Cheri DiNovo (New Progressive Party-Ontario) 2019-...
 
A longer list in time

TAOS PRIMARY alternate presidents.
37th President Richard Nixon (1969-1974) *
38th President Gerald Ford (1974-1977)

39th President William “Bill” Mathews (1977-1981)
40th President Owen Lassiter (1981-1989)
41st President William Mitchell (1989-1993)

42nd President J. Robert Fowler (1993-2001) ^
43rd President David Bowers (2001-2009)
44th President William Sawyer (2009-2017)
45th President Robert Diaz (2017-2019) *
46th President James Devlin (2019-2020) ^_*
47th President Benjamin Asher (2020-2021)

48th President Oluwakemi “Kemi” Talbot (2021-2029)
49th President Laura Montez (2029-2037)
50th President Jonah Ryan (2037-2038) ^*
51st President Cristina Warren (2038-2041)

52nd President Richard Splett (2041-2049)


* Resigned from Office
^ Impeached
^_* Impeached and removed from office
^* Impeached but resigned

Parties
Republican
Democrat
American Third Way!


After Nixon and Ford, all are fictional Presidents.
 
Miss me yet?-George W. Bush
Yes.-America TTL
The Comeback Kid
George W. Bush/Dick Cheney 2001-2005

2000: Def. Al Gore/Joe Lieberman, Ralph Nader/Winona LaDuke
John Kerry/John Edwards 2005-2008
John Kerry/vacant 2008-2009

George W. Bush/Chuck Hagel 2009-2013
2008: Def. John Kerry/Wesley Clark
Mark Sanford/Tim Pawlenty 2013-2015
2012: Def. Hillary Clinton/Martin O'Malley
Tim Pawlenty/Jon Huntsman 2015-2017
Martin Heinrich/Amy Klobuchar 2017-2021
2016: Def. Tim Pawlenty/Jon Huntsman, Joe Miller/Bob Conley
Sarah Palin/Nikki Haley 2021-
2020: Def. Martin Heinrich/Amy Klobuchar, Mark Cuban/John Hickenlooper
 
No FDR, Authoritarianism instead

32. Al Smith (Democratic) 1933-1936 [Resigned]
1932: Herbert HoNover (Republican)
33. John Nance Garner (Democratic) 1936 [Resigned]
34. Douglas MacArthur (National Union) 1936-1937 [As Acting President], 1937-1961

1936: Upton Sinclair (Social Democratic)
1940: Unopposed
1944: Unopposed
1948: Unopposed
1952: Unopposed
1956: Various

35. Richard Nixon (Federalist) 1961-1994 [Died]
1960: Adlai Stevenson (Social Progress)
1964: Various
1968:
Eugene McCarthy (Social Progress)
1972: George McGovern (Social Progress)
1976: Various
1980:
Roger MacBride (Indepenence & Liberty), Ron Dellums (Social Progress)
1984: Jesse Jackson (Social Progress)
1988: Jesse Jackson (Social Progress), Ron Paul (Independence & Liberty), Pat Robertson (Evangelical Revolution)
1992: Pat Buchanan (Constitution), Jesse Jackson (Social Progress)
36. George H.W. Bush (Federalist) 1994-2001
1996: Pat Buchanan (Constitution), Douglas Wilder (Social Progress)
37. George W. Bush (Federalist) 2001 [Killed]
2000: Ralph Nader (Social Progress), Pat Buchanan (Constitution)
38. Colin Powell (Federalist-Military) 2001-2005
3
9. Wesley Clark (Military-National Union) 2005-2009

2004: Various
40. Barack Obama (Social Progress-Independent) 2009-Present
2008: Mike Huckabee (Constitution)
2012: Rick Santorum (Constitution)

....because there must be at least one term of Obama/Biden....
Herbert HoNover is my favorite candidate
 
Alternative 21st Century to 2020

-Al Gore / Joe Lieberman wins 2000 against George Bush Jr / Dick Cheney

Al Gore wins, USA ratifies Kyoto, 9/11 doesn’t occur. However, due to butterflies relations with a China go south sooner than OTL. However green energy and Stem cell research are further along. Al Gore is assumed to lose in 2004 between the closeness of 2000 and the dot com bubble, but right wing domestic extremism of a Christian nature lead to multiple crises and a failed assassination attempt on Al Gore that energizes democrats leading up to the 2004 elections as GOP officials are increasingly perceived as enabling domestic extremism despite their own condemnations due to the religious right faction of the GOP becoming more dominant as more corporate GOP members find themselves seeing the religious right as a liability. USA ABM developments cause earlier tensions with a China and Russia that feed into international tensions via proxy conflicts in the Mexican Drug War and the 2nd Congo War. The Enron scandal is generally viewed as the beginning of the end for big oil, as solar energy and wind mill energy gets more subsidies while the Enron Investigations mire the oil industry in the media. The Green Party is an increasingly conspicuous politician force for liberal activism that manages to flip multiple seats in the 2002 mid term leading Al Gore to in his 2004 campaign move to the left on climate policy and civil rights to win over green voters with gestures such as repealing DADT and more taking more aggressive stances on climate policy. The green shift as some call it is derided by pundits and generally it is assumed that Mc Cain is a shoe-in for the 2004 elections. However this happens admits various bombings of schools, abortion clinics, government faculties and the aforementioned failed assassination attempt which is revealed to have been part of a coup plot by an extremist organization to get the house majority speaker into the White House with Lieberman and numerous cabinet members all targets.

-Al Gore / Joe Lieberman wins 2004 against John McCain / Jeb Bush

Al Gore, against all odds pulls off a massive Upset against Mc Cain due in part to the economic ticking up in 2004 and managing to boost in approval in a post assassination attempt speech which directly condemned religious extremism around the world and calling out multiple GOP Congress members for their enabling of domestic extremism in the USA that while divisive, is viewed as the speech that caused the GOP to loose in 2004. At the time this was seen as a historic success for reason, secularism and the third way, but Al Gore’s victory would prove a poison chalice. Al Gore’s carbon tax credit has so far seemed successful, but in his second term things were taken further with funding NASA missions that supported climate monitoring and even flirting with the prospect of a green infrastructure deal that died in congress by the time it came up for a vote. Cracking down on domestic extremism became a major domestic policy policy issue, to some justification but the degree to which Al Gore perused the issue came off as an over-reaction and as a pretext to gun control policies that alienated more independent voters.

The Gore administration also would adopt a more belligerent policy directed against religious extremism as a whole between supposed Christian extremism in Africa and Islamic extremism in the Middle East. This was atop of increasing disputes with China’s WTO violations and continued refusal to ratify the Kyoto accords which Al Gore progressively saw as something all nations must sign and even selectively sanctioned high CO2 emitting goods. Relations with Russia also soured due to their Georgia intervention and Putin’s increasing tendency to mock Al Gore in homophobic terms causing verbal altercations. The USA also would have legal gay marriage by 2008 in a highly divisive SCOTUS ruling that galvanized the religious right who already viewed Al Gore as someone actively vilifying Christians. To some degree, progressive groups in the US saw religious extremism as the biggest threat to US liberties since the civil war.

Saddam died of a heart attack in 2007, causing Iraq to fall into a secession crisis in 2007 that devolved into civil war.

However, it would be the economy down turn which ultimately brought an end to 16 years of democratic governance and the ascent of the religious far right proved inescapable with Huckabee’s rise in the GOP. 2008 also would be the year international tensions with China and Russia became extreme as Al Gore pulled the US out of the 2008 Beijing Olympics over China’s abuse of cyber espionage and the second Taiwan strait crisis that escalated into a military skirmish between US and Chinese navies that caused a global panic attack despite not escalating further. It did however cause Al Gore to with bipartisan agreement create the Cyberwar branch of the US military. Al Gore would later view his advocacy of admitting China into the WTO as one of his biggest mistakes.

-Mike Huckabee [2009-2011] / Mitt Romney wins 2008 against Joe Lieberman / John Bell Edwards

Huckabee’s victory in 2008, despite Huckabee’s own attempts to differentiate radical Christian extremism from good Christians confirmed the worst fears of progressives. In practice, Huckabee found himself constrained by the Supreme Court and the more liberal wing of republicans. Huckabee did however keep to his more economic populist rhetoric and pushed through protections to Medicare while perusing more aggressive trade policies against China and even sending ABMs to Taiwan, South Korea and so on in a general pivot to Asia. Huckabee also cut spending to green energy but didn’t pull out of the climate accord, instead getting rid of carbon tax credit in favor of cap and trade. Huckabee on green energy proved shockingly mixed, but elsewhere he proved extremist. In 2010 funding to planned parenthood was cut and bailouts to critical industries were made with little investigation into the banks. He also increased US military spending as usual. Huckabee intentionally avoided pushing on religious right policies much to the chagrin of his base, mainly due to not wanting to give the SCOTUS the chance to overrule homophobic policies and wanting to gain political capital from solving the down turn. He did however, try to re-impose DADT and rhetorically pushed on Christian oriented America along with giving the churches back their tax exemptions. He also cut stem cell research and climate funding in NASA in favor of a moon centric space program. Huckabee also tried to mend relations with Russia, seeing them as a potential ally against China and wanting to drive a wedge between China and Russia. An action which worked out for the time being.

Than, in 2011 an anarchist shot Huckabee. The motives are unclear-theories are wide ranging as to the killer’s true intentions as in the polarized climate of 2010’s a census of narrative simply didn’t exist. What is known is that the killer had lost much of their livelihood to the recession. Whatever the truth, the act triggered the third red scare in the United States as communist China was blamed and investigations into the assassination made conspiratorial connections to socialist and progressive groups along with the PLA and Chinese hackers. Mitt Romney however, was more moderate and tried to avoid falling into the chaos but ended up making only a confusing speech amid a renewed round of Christian extremist attacks and rioting around the United States instigated by Romney’s own policies later that year. This all came at the same time as the Arab spring which became to the US another theatre of proxy conflict with China and Huckabee’s push for a war with Iran who he decried as a supposed proxy state for China like North Korea, “China’s nuclear vassals” as Huckabee and later Romney saw it. US activity was already stretched due to heavy involvement in Africa, but Romney would escalate the drug war in Mexico while threatening Iran with bombing runs if they peruse nuclear weaponry.

-Mitt Romney / Ben Carson wins 2012 against John Bel Edwards / Edd Rendell

The energized right was able to win against the underwhelming ticket Democrats had in 2012, with Obama being sidelined due to fears of him being seen as “too extreme” much to the derision of the green-socialist wing of the Democratic party that was targeted by the more conservative elements of the Democratic Party who was terrified of the red scare environment that the media had pushed with criminal investigations that had no rhyme or reason. The only consistency being the political orientation and constant attacks on the activist organizations that just 6 years prior helped Al Gore win a 2nd term. This move to the right by Democrats came as a shock given the failings of Joe Lieberman in 2008. Primaries became more aggressively curated to defend against left wing radical entryists as they were referred to.

Romney’s first elected term proved very divisive, with his overtures to amnesty and social conservative policies being mixed in results as he proved more amicable to businesses than Huckabee was with more business based tax cuts and managing to nominate SCOTUS justices that moved the courts more to the right, but not enough to repeal Roe v Wade entirely. The ”2008 travesty” was however, redefined to mean civil unions and not marriage. Romney however, would find stiffer opposition to his policies from worker strikes (including a general strike) and labour protests and Democrats in state and local primaries saw socialists and progressives pulling upsets and flipping both houses of Congress in 2014 in a general back lash against the perceived theocratic governance and corporatism of the Huckabee-Romney administration. Yet despite these gains, the entrenched conservatives in the Democratic party managed to contest the 2016 convention and force Edd Rendell in as the nominee despite Hillary and Obama also being in a dead heat with Edd Rendell. This leads to Romney managing to win in 2016 in spite of his unpopular policies and widespread social unrest across the spectrum due to Edd alienating the bulk of the democrat base and ongoing international crises and conflicts making people less willing to switch administrations despite Romney’s perceived incompetence.

Bombing runs in Iran conducted with drones would lead to counter attacks by Hezbollah in American soil and Mexican soil that escalated into the general troubles of North Korea which after 2013 had destabilized massively due to Kim Jong Un dying in an accident causing a secession crises that broke the whole country down into warring military functions and Kim family members, some believed to have access to nukes.

This break down was something that the Romney administration and China felt the need to intervene in rapidly with a covert attempt to install Kim Jong Nam in a back end agreement with China done around congress that got leaked. This leak caused a significant scandal at home, leading to various attacks by North Korean militias in South Korean military bases in retaliation. The prospect of escalation was hard to mediate and the Korean Crisis would continue for another 3 years without resolution in back and forth skirmishes NK couldn’t escalate and the US or China feared to escalate due to the prospect of nuclear terrorism looming. The Romney administration was increasingly viewed as the presidency of deadlocks both domestic and foreign.

In Latin America, the US aggressively worked on overthrowing Chavez on the fears that China was using Venezuela as a potential proxy site and on broken Cold War logic that increasingly was turning out to not make sense with regard to China. This led to an embarrassment on the part of the US government when a PMO tried to storm Caracas only to be ambushed.

-Mitt Romney / Ben Carson wins 2016 against Edd Rendell / Joe Biden

Ongoing riots persisted as the deadlocked Romney Administration slumped back for another 4 years through a highly controversial electoral college win where Edd Randell won over 50% of the popular vote. Said win had no flipping of the house or senate, meaning the conservative agenda increasingly was reliant on the courts which shrunk to 8 seats and later 7 seats by obstructionist democrats who say Romney as having negative mandate. This unprecedented obstruction would however not be enough to stop democrats from gaining seats in 2018 with the most left wing party since FDR. Automation also was hitting cars more and despite the economy having recovered since 2014 and the third red scare, socialists and progressives had managed to probe a powerful political force that democratic officials eventually capitulated to after a string of failed elections. Obama in this world became a forefront of the progressive movement having moved to the left economically in the 2000’s and towards democratic socialist economics. Positions that had in 2008 and 2016 kept him from winning primaries which systemically tilted to the now diminished conservative wing of the Democratic Party. Obama however, would be governor of Illinois from 2010 to 2018 where he had faced investigations from the government during the third red scare, he was clean but the idea was to destroy his 2014 prospects. All of this failed to stop what was increasingly the face of the party.

The democratic socialist take over of the Democratic party after 2016 was at first celebrated by the GOP, as they believed such a radical move to the left in the climate of Cold War with China and the belief 2008, 2012 and 2016 elections repudiated the secularism of Al Gore’s time. However the results of 2018 caused the GOP to retreat to more radicalism and perpetuating the third red scare to limited effect, having been found by courts to have overstepped repeatedly on investigations into political opponents on ties to the PRC in ways that violated the 4th amendment due to extrajudicial information gathering by grass roots organizations and the compromising of corporate data from Amazon and Google. The high degree of information privacy the 2013 rulings set for better or worse persisted across the decade and the 6 years of judicial and legislative deadlock.

Than in 2019 the Seoul Catastrophe occurred, with the meddling in the North Korean civil war by the Romney administration leading to retaliation in the form of nuclear terrorist attack on Seoul. The abject horror of this event was amplified as many people over all this time had managed to feel the world one where things were overall in order whatever stumbles on the part of the administration. Within the context of the multiple foreign policy scandals that mired the Romney age, blame was split yet again with blame thrown around and rebuilding plans for South Korea or resolutions to intervene in North Korea were fiercely argued between people who agreed on nothing. The 2020 elections became dominated by the North Korea issue, and the a China issue by extension as China had already sent PLA forces into the northern border despite threats by local factions in North Korea to do to Beijing what had been done to Seoul. Nuclear weapon usage had been also carried out by a couple of the factions tactically.

Romney’s lame duck presidency also eroded the GOP as a whole, with the nominee being the rather mediocre Florida Governor Rick Scott after Ben Carson got wrapped up in a financial scandal that broke his initial front runner status. Democrats meanwhile had a very clear and obvious choice- ardent democratic socialist... Barrack Obama?

Obama primarily ran on a plan to solve the NK crisis and rebuild relations around the world. He also ran on universal healthcare, a green infrastructure plan and corporate accountability. He won the nomination and managed to win against Rick Scott (Carson dropped out due to personal issues) who had the ill advised idea of running on an isolationist platform.
 
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Alternative 21st Century to 2020

Romney’s lame duck presidency also eroded the GOP as a whole, with the nominee being the rather mediocre Florida Governor Rick Scott after Ben Carson got wrapped up in a financial scandal that broke his initial front runner status. Democrats meanwhile had a very clear and obvious choice- ardent democratic socialist... Barrack Obama?
Now why did you do my favorite Senator dirty like that. Rick Scott is awesome!
 
Three Termer

Here's my version at this list

1. George Washington (Nonpartisan) 1789-1801
2. Thomas Jefferson (Democratic Republican) 1801-1813
3. James Madison (Democratic Republican) 1813-1825
4. James Monroe (Democratic Republican) 1825-1831 [Died]
5. Albert Gallatin (Democratic Republican) 1831-1833

6. Andrew Jackson (Democratic) 1833-1845
7. Henry Clay (Whig) 1845-1849
8. Lewis Cass (Democratic) 1849-1853
9. Winfield Scott (Whig) 1853-1857
10. James Buchanan (Democratic) 1857-1861
11. Abraham Lincoln (Republican) 1861-1865 [Assassinated]
12. Andrew Johnson (Democratic) 1865-1869
13. Ulysses S. Grant (Republican) 1869-1881
14. Thomas Bayard (Democratic) 1881-1893
15. Benjamin Harrison (Republican) 1893-1897
16. Robert Pattison (Democratic) 1897-1901
17. William McKinley (Republican) 1901 [Assassinated]
18. Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) 1901-1913
19. William Howard Taft (Republican) 1913-1917
20. Charles E. Hughes (Republican) 1917-1921

21. James M. Cox (Democratic) 1921-1933
22. Herbert Hoover (Republican) 1933-1945
23. Thomas E. Dewey (Republican) 1945-1953

24. Adlai Stevenson (Democratic) 1953-1957
25. Thomas E. Dewey (Republican) 1957-1961
26. Adlai Stevenson (Democratic) 1961-1964 [Died]

27. Lyndon B. Johnson (Democratic) 1964-1969
28. Richard Nixon (Republican) 1969-1973
29. Hubert Humphrey (Democratic) 1973-1978 [Died]
30. Scoop Jackson (Democratic) 1978-1981

31. Ronald Reagan (Republican) 1981-1993
32. Bill Clinton (Democratic) 1993-2005
33. John McCain (Republican) 2005-2009
34. Barack Obama (Democratic) 2009-2021
 
And now the alternative to my previous list....

One Termer

1. George Washington (Nonpartisan) 1789-1793
2. John Adams (Federalist) 1793-1797
3. Thomas Jefferson (Democratic Republican) 1797-1801
4. James Madison (Democratic Republican) 1801-1805
5. James Monroe (Democratic Republican) 1805-1809
6. George Clinton (Democratic Republican) 1809-1812 [Died]
7. William H. Crawford (Democratic Republican) 1812-1817
8. DeWitt Clinton (Democratic Republican) 1817-1821
9. Nathaniel Macon (Democratic Republican) 1821-1825

10. John Quincy Adams (National Republican) 1825-1829
11. Andrew Jackson (Democratic) 1829-1833
12. John C. Calhoun (Democratic) 1833-1837
13. Martin Van Buren (Democratic) 1837-1841

14. William Henry Harrison (Whig) 1841 [Died]
15. Willie P. Magnum (Whig) 1841-1845

16. James K. Polk (Democratic) 1845-1849
17. Zachary Taylor (Whig) 1849-1850 [Died]
18. Millard Fillmore (Whig) 1850-1853

19. Franklin Pierce (Democratic) 1853-1857
20. James Buchanan (Democratic) 1857-1861

21. Abraham Lincoln (Republican) 1861-1865
22. John C. Fremont (Republican) 1865-1869
23. Ulysses S. Grant (Republican) 1869-1873
24. Schuyler Colfax (Republican) 1873-1877

25. Samuel Tilden (Democratic) 1877-1881
26. James G. Blaine (Republican) 1881 [Assassinated]

27. Chester A. Arthur (Republican) 1881-1885
28. George F. Edmunds (Republican) 1885-1889

29. Grover Cleveland (Democratic) 1889-1893
30. William McKinley (Republican) 1893-1897
31. Richard P. Bland (Democratic) 1897-1899 [Died]
32. Joseph C. Sibley (Democratic) 1899-1901

33. Mark Hanna (Republican) 1901 [Assassinated]
34. Theodore Roosevelt (Republican) 1901-1905
35. William Howard Taft (Republican) 1905-1909

36. William Jennings Bryan (Democratic) 1909-1913
37. Woodrow Wilson (Democratic) 1913-1917

38. Charles E. Hughes (Republican) 1917-1921
39. James M. Cox (Democratic) 1921-1925

40. Herbert Hoover (Republican) 1925-1929
41. Charles Curtis (Republican) 1929-1933

42. Franklin D. Roosevelt (Democratic) 1933-1937
43. Alf Landon (Republican) 1937-1941
44. Wendell Willkie (Democratic) 1941-1944 [Died]
45. Rexford Tugwell (Democratic) 1944-1949

46. Thomas E. Dewey (Republican) 1949-1953
47. Adlai Stevenson (Democratic) 1953-1957
48. Richard Nixon (Republican) 1957-1961

49. John F. Kennedy (Democratic) 1961-1965
50. Hubert Humphrey (Democratic) 1965-1969

51. Ronald Reagan (Republican) 1969-1973
52. Gerald Ford (Republican) 1973-1977

53. Scoop Jackson (Democratic) 1977-1981
54. George H.W. Bush (Republican) 1981-1985
55. Howard Baker (Republican) 1985-1989
56. Bob Dole (Republican) 1989-1993

57. Bill Clinton (Democratic) 1993-1997
58. Al Gore (Democratic) 1997-2001

59. George W. Bush (Republican) 2001-2005
60. John McCain (Republican) 2005-2009

61. Barack Obama (Democratic) 2009-2013
 
A longer list in time

TAOS PRIMARY alternate presidents.
37th President Richard Nixon (1969-1974) *
38th President Gerald Ford (1974-1977)

39th President William “Bill” Mathews (1977-1981)
40th President Owen Lassiter (1981-1989)
41st President William Mitchell (1989-1993)

42nd President J. Robert Fowler (1993-2001) ^
43rd President David Bowers (2001-2009)
44th President William Sawyer (2009-2017)
45th President Robert Diaz (2017-2019) *
46th President James Devlin (2019-2020) ^_*
47th President Benjamin Asher (2020-2021)

48th President Oluwakemi “Kemi” Talbot (2021-2029)
49th President Laura Montez (2029-2037)
50th President Jonah Ryan (2037-2038) ^*
51st President Cristina Warren (2038-2041)

52nd President Richard Splett (2041-2049)


* Resigned from Office
^ Impeached
^_* Impeached and removed from office
^* Impeached but resigned

Parties
Republican
Democrat
American Third Way!


After Nixon and Ford, all are fictional Presidents.
is there a references list for this list?
 
ok good. thanks for clarifying.

Same ATL has Obama becoming a Democratic Socialist, something so counterfactual that the TL itself got confused. Butterflies are very flappy.

Like the 21st century that I tried to describe is one where rising china and conflict between secular vs theocratic instead of globalist vs nationalist is the dominant culture war dynamic. The secular v theocratic was also why you saw the GOP making overtures to Russia sooner and if I kept going would be more blatant with the alt-Obama administration and whatever comes after that. Mind when I make lists like this usually around the 2060 and beyond mark you start getting AI populists who dominate for long periods of time.
 
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Party of Jackson and Jackson

1989-1993: George H.W. Bush (R-TX)/Dan Quayle (R-IN)

1988: def: Mario Coumo (D-NY)/Bob Graham (D-FL)

For a few months in 1988 it looked like Lee Atwater's wildest dreams were about to come true with the Democrats poised to nominate an outspoken, left-wing ni-, ehrm, preacher. Then Pauö Kirk and Jim Wright got their shit together and made sure the convention picked Mario Cuomo as a "unity" choice no matter how much the Jackson plurality whined. The rest is history, with the deflated Democratic base delivering unto George Bush a landslide that would've made anyone who hadn't worked on the Reagan '84 campaign proud. The ensuing administration was in most aspects a massive success, even if an ungrateful electorate spent too much time complaining about "recessions" and other trivialities. Fortunatly, the Democratic civil was will be more than enough to make sure the President gets another four years to put things right, especially so since they were so stupid that they actually put up Jackson for re- CBS just announced what!?

1993-2001: Jesse Jackson (D-SC)/Dick Gephardt (D-MO)
1992: def: George H.W. Bush (R-TX)/Dan Quayle (R-IN), Ross Perot (I-TX)/John Silber (D-MA)
1996: def: Pat Buchanan (R-VA)/Dick Lugar (R-IN), Lee Iacocca (I-MI)/David McCurdy (I-OK), Bill Weld (I-MA)/Nancy Kassebaum (I-KS)


After the disaster of 1988 everyone knew that the '92 primary would be hell. But with President Bush practically assured reelection not that many serious polls wanted to wast their time and money to run as the anti-Jackson candidate (and Jackson had made it very clear very early that he was the man to beat) and more than a few powerbrokers figured that they might as well let Jackson shoot his shot and then go away. So after a primary where the most memorable factor became the cavalcade of has-been, weirdos and sordid Governors trying to take down a frontrunners who had spent the last four years building his movement and courting over Dukakis voters Jackson did a suprsingly calculated thing: he made his peace with the establishment. Picking Mouse Majority Leader, labor populist and well known ultra-ambitious hack Dick Gephardt for his running mate and staffing his campaign with a healthy selection of DNC creatures he took the fight to the Republicans. Tagteaming the President with a quixotic Texas billionaire chihuahua (Ross Perot would later complain that Jackson had stolen his thunder) he not only utilized the economic recession to win, he assembled an impressive working-class coalition that gave him a significant margin. Beyond the obvious historical milestones of his election, the reception to his presidency can only be described as mixed. No American politician have been as hated since Lincoln, and there has been a number of valid ethics complaints against his administration and family (continuing on to this day, with Senator Jackson Jr. facing down a grand jury as we speak). But on the other hand, no one can deny the magnitudes of his policy (universal healthcare and the New War on Poverty) and electoral accomplishments (even if some would say that beating a Republican Party so scared of the black man in the White House that they nominated Pat Buchanan wasn't had that ignores the fact that Buchanan ran a very strong campaign and polled better against Jackson than both Bob Dole and Dan Quayle). He transformed the Democratic coalition, and the Party is, for better or worse, the Party of Jackson and is likely to remain so.

2001-2005: Dick Gephardt (D-MO)/Jim Hightower (D-TX)
2000: def: Mike Leavitt (R-UT)/Mark Neumann (R-WI)

Despite what the usual suspects would say, few old-school polls embraced the post-1992 era more throughly than Richard Andrew Gephardt. Serving out his eight years in Number One Observatory Circle as a loyal congressional and hardhat ambassador for the President, he emerged as the natural heir to the President and easily dispatched Gov. Bayh in the primary. His general election opponent was in many ways a more likely President than the previous Republican nominee, but unlike Pat Buchanan Mike Leavitt failed in rallying the voters friendly to the Jacksonian project (even if he did swallow much of the old Iacocca and Weld vote) and Gephardt marched into the Oval Office with a solid victory behind him. But governing would prove a more difficult matter. Perhaps it was bad luck, perhaps it was voter unrest toward three consecutive terms or perhaps it was a myriad factors, but nothing ever went quite right for the Gephardt Administration. The economy floundered, Russia imploded into civil war after the death of President Yeltsin and the European Union almost collapsed after the election of left-wing nationalist Jean-Pierre Chevènement in France's 2002 election, but one couldn't help but wonder if there wasn't time for a change. Or at least one would, had the GOP not proved themselves a gang of undetectable tycoons, fundies and nazis. The blue wall was impregnable, everyone knew that.

2005-2013: Wesley Clark (R-AR)/Gordon Smith (R-OR)
2004: def: Dick Gephardt (D-MO)/Jim Hightower (D-TX)
2008: def: Jim Hightower (D-TX)/Jill L. Thompson (D-IN)


Deeply hated by the activist right (despite having stolen the less fascist half of Pat Buchanan's playbook) and still adored by the sort of people who work for conservative welfare institutions in D.C. and New York, few had even know that Wesley Clark were a Republican of any kind before he announced his resignation from the Army and intention to run for President live on CNN (especially so the President, who had been about the name Clark Secretary of State before catching the broadcast). But the fact that he lacked a political record would prove far from a hinderence for the Clark campaign. A good ol' country boy (citation needed) who had dedicated his life to national service, saved the world from a Russian self-induced nuclear Armageddon and only wanted the best for every American? Surely that's our man! And he was. The primary proved somewhat tricky but with only Ron Paul and Rick Santorum really giving it a go Clark was soon through that hurdle. In the general election he managed to clobber together a coalition of Republicans who just wanted a damn win with Democrats and independents who might not be comfortable with the Republican Party as a whole but trusted the good general to not do anything silly. And it worked very well. While President Clark might not have been quite the moderate he was sold as (there were still pro-lifers and chambers of commerce to placate) most people don't really see the big deal when the left starts to go on about trade deals and judical nominees. Indeed, the electorate was so proud of their big war hero, conflict solving, Nobel Peace Prize winning President who doesn't afraid of anything that they gave him a second term (even if the House returned to Speaker Bonior after the 2006 midterms and would stay there for the rest of the Clark Administration). Wesley Clark's approval rating have remained high since his Presidency, and no living President can brag of being less disliked.

2013-: Lori Wallach (D-WI)/Cleo Fields (D-LA)
2012: def: Mike Huckabee (R-AR)/Jim Webb (R-VA)
2016: def: Doug Ose (R-CA)/Charles Condon (R-SC)

Sworn in as the first female (and first Jewish) President of the United States, Lori Wallach's prospects hadn't been good. Alienated from a good part of her own party after her bruising primary fight with John Kerry and with limited legitimacy after actually losing the popular vote to Governor Huckabee (especially ironic after it emerged that then Senator Wallach had sponsored an amendment abolishing the electoral college). On top of that, the sound Clark Boom soon turned into the Wallach Recession. She were to be a one termer, that much was clear. That the administrations response to the economic downturn proved far more potent than most pundits would have predicted might have saved the Democrats Congress, but no one but the bullish Minority Leader Pence had actually foreseen a red wave (the GOP having held the House for a grand total of eight years since the Depression). Still, with those ratings she was bound to be a one termer, especially so after she got into that damn foolish trade war with China. Then the primary happened. The would-be frontrunner, Senator Bill Haslam never took off. Necocon Crown Prince Rep. Gerson had his five minutes of fame before flaming out. Condoleezza Rice kept denying interest until even the New York Times grew tired. Michael Bloomberg spent more money than the rest of the field combined in exchange for one (1) delegate in New Hampshire. In the end the race developed into a horrifying struggle between moderate maverick Doug Ose and the iconoclast she-devil Linda Smith herself. Ose won, and while his brand of center-right suburbanism actually did deliver the GOP not only the swing states of Texas and Florida but also the big prize of California, it played very badly with the swing voters that had gone from Jackson and Gephardt to Clark and Huckabee. Wallach did not only sweep the Midwest and much of the South, she brought in the coattails to show for it. It remains unclear if she will be able to right the ship and hand of the country to a suitable successor (Vice President Fields is already prepping his campaign), but Lori Wallach have shown once and for all that she's not to underestimate.
 
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