List of Alternate Monarchs and Aristocratic Lineage II

Nova_Philomena

ordinarylittleme said:
Henry VII of England (1457-1509) m. Elizabeth of York (1466-1511)

1) Margaret of England (1486-1502) m. James IV of Scotland (1473-1523)
2) Arthur I of England (1489-1541) m. a) Katherine of Aragon (1485-1536), b) Katherine Howard (1523-1582)
3) Elizabeth of England (1491-1547) m. a) James IV of Scotland (1473-1523), b) Charles Brandon (1484-1545)
4) Henry of England (1496-1533) m. Mary Boleyn (1499-1543)
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Male! Mary (Rose) Tudor wouldn't marry Mary Boleyn, at least not as a first wife. ITL Henry, Duke of York would marry Marguerite d'Angouleme or Elizabeth Grey.
 

Andrewtsal

Henry, Count of Chambord accepts the compromise of Tricolor and becomes king and Philip, Count of Paris succeeds him upon Henry’s death.
  • Philip VII, King of France (b. 1838, d. 1894) m. Maria Isabelle, Infanta of Spain (b. 1848, d. 1919)
    • Amelie, Princess of France (b. 1865, d. 1951) m. Carlos I, King of Portugal (b. 1863, d. 1920)
    • Philip VIII, King of France (b. 1869, d. 1898) m. Maria Dorothea, Archduchess of Austria (b. 1867, d. 1928)
    • Helene, Princess of France (b. 1871, d. 1951) m. Albert Victor, Prince of Wales (b. 1864, 1906)
    • Isabelle, Princess of France (b. 1878, d. 1961) m. Albert I, King of Belgium (b. 1875, d. 1934)
    • Jacques I, King of France (b. 1880, d. 1937) m. Elizabeth of Bavaria (b. 1876, d. 1965)
    • Louise, Princess of France (b. 1883, d. 1958) m. Alfonso XIII, King of Spain (b. 1886, d. 1941)
 
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Nova_Philomena

Prompt: No Tour de Nesle (No shade to Isabelle of France, she's my problematic favorite)

Louis X of France (b. 1289 d. 1336) m. Margaret of Burgundy (b. 1290 d. 1331) [1]
  1. Joan of France (b. 1312 d. 1349) m. Alfonso XI of Castile (b. 1311 d. 1350)
  2. Margaret of France (b. 1313 d. 1320)
  3. Louis XI of France (b. 1315 d. 1380) m. Bonne of Luxembourg (b. 1315 d. 1349) and Margaret of Brabant (b. 1323 d. 1380)
  4. Philip of France (b. 1316 d. 1319)
  5. Isabella of France (b 1317 d. 1386) m. David II of Scotland (b. 1324 d. 1371)
 

Dragonboy

Nova_Philomena said:
Prompt: No Tour de Nesle (No shade to Isabelle of France, she's my problematic favorite)

Louis X of France (b. 1289 d. 1336) m. Margaret of Burgundy (b. 1290 d. 1331) [1]
  1. Joan of France (b. 1312 d. 1349) m. Alfonso XI of Castile (b. 1311 d. 1350)
  2. Margaret of France (b. 1313 d. 1320)
  3. Louis XI of France (b. 1315 d. 1380) m. Bonne of Luxembourg (b. 1315 d. 1349) and Margaret of Brabant (b. 1323 d. 1380)
  4. Philip of France (b. 1316 d. 1319)
  5. Isabella of France (b 1317 d. 1386) m. David II of Scotland (b. 1324 d. 1371)
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Idea for 2 family trees: Philip the handsome outlives his father max and father in law, and he makes a division of the inheritence, Charles will get burgundy, austria and the HRE plus marry mary tudor, while ferdinan will get spain and marry isabella of portugal.
 

Nova_Philomena

Dragonboy said:
Idea for 2 family trees: Philip the handsome outlives his father max and father in law, and he makes a division of the inheritence, Charles will get burgundy, austria and the HRE plus marry mary tudor, while ferdinan will get spain and marry isabella of portugal.
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Philip I, Holy Roman Emperor (b. 1478 d. 1523) m. Joanna, Queen of Castile and Aragon (b. 1479 d. 1555)
  1. Eleanor of Austria (b. 1498 d. 1558) m. John III of Portugal (b. 1502 d. 1557)
  2. Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor (b. 1500 d. 1558) m. Mary of England (b. 1496 d. 1539)
  3. Isabella of Austria (b. 1501 d. 1523) m. Christian II of Denmark (b. 1481 d. 1554)
  4. Ferdinand VI of Spain (b. 1503 d. 1564) m. Isabella of Portugal (b. 1503 d. 1541)
  5. Mary of Austria (b. 1505 d. 1558) m. Louis II of Hungary (b. 1506 d. 1550)
  6. Catherine of Austria (b. 1507 d. 1578) m. Henry IX of England (b. 1511 d. 1574) [1]
[1] Survives Infancy
 
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TheBeanieBaron

Andrewtsal said:
Henry, Count of Chambord accepts the compromise of Tricolor and becomes king and Philip, Count of Paris succeeds him upon Henry’s death.
  • Philip VII, King of France (b. 1838, d. 1894) m. Maria Isabelle, Infanta of Spain (b. 1848, d. 1919)
    • Amelie, Princess of France (b. 1865, d. 1951) m. Carlos I, King of Portugal (b. 1863, d. 1920)
    • Philip VIII, King of France (b. 1869, d. 1898) m. Maria Dorothea, Archduchess of Austria (b. 1867, d. 1928)
    • Helene, Princess of France (b. 1871, d. 1951) m. Albert Victor, Prince of Wales (b. 1864, 1906)
    • Isabelle, Princess of France (b. 1878, d. 1961) m. Albert I, King of Belgium (b. 1875, d. 1934)
    • Jacques III, King of France (b. 1880, d. 1937) m. Elizabeth of Bavaria (b. 1876, d. 1965)
    • Louise, Princess of France (b. 1883, d. 1958) m. Alfonso XIII, King of Spain (b. 1886, d. 1941)
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  1. Did Albert Victor and Helene have children?
  2. Who did Victoria of Battenberg marry ITTL?
  3. Why doesn’t Ferdinand, Duke of Montpensier exist ITTL?
 

Andrewtsal

TheBeanieBaron said:
  1. Did Albert Victor and Helene have children?
  2. Who did Victoria of Battenberg marry ITTL?
  3. Why doesn’t Ferdinand, Duke of Montpensier exist ITTL?
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1. They have a son and daughter.
2. Victoria either marries a ittl son of Carlos I or is married into the German empire.
3. Ferdinand sadly doesn’t exist ittl due to being born after his father becomes king and due to a twist of fate in his brother Jacques surviving infancy.
 

Jan Olbracht

Kellan Sullivan said:
she presumably does- to Wlad III of Poland- but not sure if she'd have kids with him or not
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Hungarian laws allows Hungarians to elect anyone after Sigismund's death, as there are no male line descendants of him. Elizabeth was power hungry and would like to be Queen of Hungary as wife of father's successor if there is no other way to stay close to the throne.
 

Zygmunt Stary

Jan Olbracht said:
Hungarian laws allows Hungarians to elect anyone after Sigismund's death, as there are no male line descendants of him. Elizabeth was power hungry and would like to be Queen of Hungary as wife of father's successor if there is no other way to stay close to the throne.
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And anyways Hungarians broke that law when electing Vladislaus III IOTL when Vladislaus the Posthumous was male descendant of Albert II, so they would elect Vladislaus of Varna anyways ITTL and Elizabeth would probably marry him, maybe at some point trying to wrangle away Bohemia from Wittelsbachs like Matthias Corvinus tried to take it away from George of Podebrady IOTL.
 

Jan Olbracht

Zygmunt Stary said:
And anyways Hungarians broke that law when electing Vladislaus III IOTL when Vladislaus the Posthumous was male descendant of Albert II, so they would elect Vladislaus of Varna anyways ITTL and Elizabeth would probably marry him, maybe at some point trying to wrangle away Bohemia from Wittelsbachs like Matthias Corvinus tried to take it away from George of Podebrady IOTL.
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Jagiellons could gain Bohemia very easily at the time of Sigismund's death if not the fact, that Oleśnicki wanted Jogaila's sons to stay away from Czech heretics.
 
kasumigenx

kasumigenx

Richard II of Aquitaine, Holy Roman Emperor b. 1209 m. Margaret of Flanders(a)

1a.William XI of Aquitaine b. 1226 m. Sanchia of Provence

1a?a.Richard III of Aquitaine b. 1246 m. Constance of Bearn

1a?a?a.William XII of Aquitaine b. 1270 m. Violant of Castile[1]

1.Replaces the place of the IOTL marriage of Eleanor of Castile, same purpose to stabilize the succession of Gascony.
 
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