Oh, they did. That's why I was doubting earlier on if Henry IX would remarry to a prestigious princess as a second wife.So he and mary didn't have any kids?
Oh, they did. That's why I was doubting earlier on if Henry IX would remarry to a prestigious princess as a second wife.So he and mary didn't have any kids?
Then yes, he will kept the throne until his death and keep having children to furhter secure te tudor dynastyOh, they did. That's why I was doubting earlier on if Henry IX would remarry to a prestigious princess as a second wife.
I meant Henry VIII-Jane Seymour the ElderFair. I don't think he'll be getting great matches as dowager king consort, especially if he had sons with Mary (I'm debating on that one), but I suppose an archduchess would work
the privy council? The only one calling for Brandon's head on a stick was Norfolk. Who was pissy that a "jumped up dog" married a king's daughter. Until the duchess of Norfolk reminded him that "you did the same" (referencing his late wife, Anne of York)Not throw Brandon in prison after stripping away the dukedom (he did very technically commit treason) like the privy council wanted?
her other option was the duke of Milan, who Manuel refused because he felt that the guy would be a bad investment.I don't think Savoy was occupied when Beatrice married, to be fair
I think it's more likely to be a William and Mary type scenario than a Felipe and MaryI was genuinely working off of OTL, where Philip II of Spain was jure uxoris king and lost all power upon Mary's death. I suppose I could justify it by a Mary/Darnley analogue, but maybe I'll just let Henry IX keep his titles and power
Jane is just a mistress here, not a wife. Katherine dies a decade earlier than OTL, and his second wife is Eleanor of Austria (OTL Dowager Queen of Portugal and France). Of course, since Mary becomes queen anyway, Eleanor's childbearing history is much like OTL's...I meant Henry VIII-Jane Seymour the Elder
Hence why I've edited back the numerals for himI think it's more likely to be a William and Mary type scenario than a Felipe and Mary
In 1524 Mary would marry Charles V - they had been betrothed for several years and there’s no reason for either Charles or the English to break things off if Mary succeeds as queenHenry VIII dies in 1524 before the start of the great matter
Henry VIII, King of England (b. 1491, d. 1524) m. Catherine of Aragon (b. 1485, d. 1540)
- Mary I, Queen of England (b. 1516, d. 1568) m. Luís, Duke of Beja (b. 1506, d. 1560)
- Henry IX, King of England (b. 1534, d. 1578) m. Catherine of Austria (b. 1533, d. 1581)
- Catherine Tudor, Princess of England (b. 1536, d. 1588) m. Philip II, King of Spain (b. 1527, d. 1598)
- Margaret Tudor, Princess of England (b. 1537, d. 1581) m. Joao Manuel I, King of Portugal (b. 1537, d. 1565)
- Edward, Duke of York (b. 1540, d. 1596) m. Margaret Audley, Baroness Audley (b. 1540, d.
- Isabel Tudor, Princess of England (b. 1541, d. 1597) m. James VI, King of Scotland (b. 1542, d. 1590
I love when all chidren of Catherine are alive. ☺️ And the son of Prince Henry and Maria of Portugal become king, right? Charles again lose his wife in 1539. 😢Henry VIII, King of England (1491 - 1547) married Catherine of Aragon (1485 - 1549) in 1509.
- Elizabeth (1510 - 1539) married Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor (b. 1500)
- Henry, Prince of Wales (1511 - 1538) married Maria of Portugal (b. 1513) [1]
- Edward, Duke of York (b. 1513) married Anne Bourchier (b. 1517)
- Edmund, Duke of Somerset (b. 1514) married Catherine Willoughby (b. 1519)
- Mary (b. 1516) married Francis II, King of France & Duke of Britanny (b. 1518)
- Catherine (b. 1518) married John II, King of Norway & Denmark (b. 1518) [2]
[1] OTL she was stillborn.
[2] Christian II was able to regain Norway and Denmark.
Yes. They have a son, born in 1531, and he become king in 1547 as Henry IX.And the son of Prince Henry and Maria of Portugal become king, right?
And did Elizabeth gave Charles more surviving children?Yes. They have a son, born in 1531, and he become king in 1547 as Henry IX.
Charles is still hesitant about the marriage due how long he would have to wait for Mary to come of age, and is supportive of a Portuguese marriage instead.In 1524 Mary would marry Charles V - they had been betrothed for several years and there’s no reason for either Charles or the English to break things off if Mary succeeds as queen
Awesome, please do the tree of isabella and ferdinand nextManuel I, King of Portugal (1469-1521) m. a) Isabella, Princess of Asturias (1470-1498), b) Maria, Infanta of Aragon and Castile (1482-1517)
1a) Isabella II, Queen of Spain (1498-1563) m. Ferdinand, King of Naples (1488-1550)
2) - as OTL except Isabella is named Maria instead -
Charles wouldn’t hesitate about her age if she was queen regnant. Far better to keep the engagement than risk Mary marrying someone who is French aligned. My suggestion, if you want to keep the Mary/beja match, is to push the pod back by a few years so that Mary only becomes Queen after Charles has married Isabella.Charles is still hesitant about the marriage due how long he would have to wait for Mary to come of age, and is supportive of a Portuguese marriage instead.
Not if Mary came with a kingdom. Plus he had always wanted an English or French marriage and had little interest in the Portuguese match (who was wanted by the Cortes)Charles is still hesitant about the marriage due how long he would have to wait for Mary to come of age, and is supportive of a Portuguese marriage instead.
Sure. What number does Ferdinand get as King of Naples? Was he the third or fourth? @isabellaAwesome, please do the tree of isabella and ferdinand next
IV as Ferdinand II of Aragon was Ferdinand III of NaplesSure. What number does Ferdinand get as King of Naples? Was he the third or fourth? @isabella
Plus VI of Spain by right of his wifeSure. What number does Ferdinand get as King of Naples? Was he the third or fourth? @isabella