List alternate PMs or Presidents

[jack_donaghy_is_the_shado]

“I covered up. I was wrong. I'm sorry”- based off yet another President Infinity Game run

POD: Nixon admits to Watergate wrongdoings and apologizes to the nation. No resignation, no pardon, no national nightmare…

1976 Vice President Gerald Ford (R-MI)/ Senator Robert Dole (R-KS)

Defeats Governor Jerry Brown (D-CA)/ Senator Adlai E Stevenson III (D-IL)

1980 President Gerald Ford (R-MI)/ Vice President Bob Dole (R-KS)

Defeats Senator Edward M Kennedy (D-MA)/ Senator Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX)

1984 Secretary of State George H.W. Bush (R-TX)/ Representative Phil Crane (R-IL)

Defeats Senator James E Carter (D-GA)/ Former Governor Hugh Carey (D-NY)

1988 Governor Bill Clinton (D-AR)/ Representative Lee Hamilton (D-IL)

Defeats President George H.W. Bush (R-TX)/ Senator David Duke (R-LA)

1992 President Bill Clinton (D-AR)/ Senator Joseph R Biden (D-DE)

Def Fmr Vice President Bob Dole (R-KS)/ Fmr Governor Lamar Alexander (R-TN) and Businessman Ross Perot (I-TX)/ Vice Admiral (ret.) James Stockdale (I-IL)

1996 Senator Al Gore (D-TN)/ Senator John F Kerry (D-MA)

Defeats Representative George W Bush (R-TX)/ Senator Trent Lott (R-MS)

2000 President Al Gore (D-TN)/ Vice President John F Kerry (D-MA)

Defeats Senator John S McCain III (R-AZ)/ Representative John Kasich (R-OH)

2004 Fmr Senator Bill Bradley (D-NJ)/ Senator Robert Kerrey (D-NE)

Defeat Governor John Ellis Bush (R-FL)/ Former Governor Dan Quayle (R-IN)

2008 President Bob Kerrey (D-NE)/ Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)

Defeat General David Petraeus (I-NY)/ Associate Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas (I-GA) and Senator Rick Santorum (R-PA)/ Former Governor Mike Huckabee (R-AR)

2012 Vice President Barack Obama (D-IL)/ Representative John Stewart (D-NY)

Defeat Fmr Governor Mike Huckabee (R-AR)/ Senator Kelly Ayotte (R-NH)

2016 President Barack Obama (D-IL)/ Governor John Hickenlooper (D-CO)

Defeat Businessman Donald Trump (R-NY)/ Governor Mike Pence (R-IN) and Fmr Governor Gary Johnson (L-NM)/ Former Governor William Weld (L-MA)

2020 Senator Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY)/ Senator Sherrod Brown (D-OH)

Defeat Governor Greg Abbott (R-TX)/ Senator Ben Sasse (R-MI) and Senator Randall Paul (L-KY)/ Fmr Governor Jesse Ventura (L-MN)

2024 Senator Kelly Ayotte (R-NH)/ Governor Kim Reynolds (R-IA)

Defeat President Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY)/ Governor Cory Booker (D-NJ)

 

[skaven]

Nice to a see a world where John Smith becoming PM doesn't result in a socialist utopia.

You mean an unrealistic one, then.

 

[Pericles]

President Reagan's Been Shot!
Ronald Reagan/George HW Bush(1981)Republican
Defeats President Jimmy Carter/Walter Mondale(Democratic) & John B Anderson/Patrick Lucey(Independent)
George HW Bush/Paul Laxalt(1981-1989)Republican
Defeats Gary Hart/Dianne Feinstein(Democratic)
Al Gore/John Glenn(1989-1993)Democratic
Defeats Paul Laxalt/Richard Lugar(Republican)
Bob Dole/Jack Kemp(1993-2001)Republican
Defeats President Al Gore/John Glenn(Democratic) & Dick Gephardt/Ann Richards(Democratic)
Jack Kemp/John Danforth(2001-2002)Republican
Defeats Bill Bradley/Bob Graham(Democratic)
John Danforth/Tom Ridge(2002-2005)Republican
John Edwards/Carol Moseley Braun(2005-2013)Democratic
Defeats John Danforth/Tom Ridge(Republican & George Allen/Tim Pawlenty(Republican)
Jeb Bush/Tom Kean Jr(2013-)Republican
Defeats John Kerry/Evan Bayh(Democratic)

Reagan is assassinated in 1981, and George HW Bush becomes President. Bush is a successful two-term President, overseeing foreign policy victories abroad and an economic recovery at home, though his decision to focus on balancing the budget, while resulting in a balanced budget by 1984, proved unpopular with conservatives. Al Gore won as the youthful centrist in 1988, beating a poor Laxalt campaign, like Kennedy in 1960, but he faced an economic recession and his healthcare reform push was a flop. Gore also failed to stop Saddam Hussein taking Kuwait in 1990. He lost to Bob Dole in 1992. Dole oversaw tax cuts and deregulation, and an economic recovery gave him an easy re-election. His successor Jack Kemp won in 2000 promising to continue and expand Dole's conservative vision, but Kemp was tragically killed in 2002 by an assassination linked to Islamist terrorists. His VP Danforth invaded Afghanistan to pursue Kemp's assassins and the GOP even saw gains in the 2002 midterms. But an economic downturn and scandals in the administration, after 12 years in power, made the American people vote for change. John Edwards initially did well, with an anti-poverty push in his first term. However, he had skeletons in his closet, and they marred his second term and legacy. Edwards also struggled to handle a harsh economic recession and after 2010 an unfriendly Congress. Jeb Bush was swept into office in 2012 on a conservative vision, and entered with Republican majorities in both houses. Bush has proved more conservative than his father, and his tax cuts and spending cuts, as well as unpopular entitlement reforms, have managed to, or at least not stopped, an economic recovery. Bush lost Congress in 2014, but re-election to the presidency, on the back of an economic recovery. The Democratic Party has been cracking up, while the Republicans remain firmly on the centre ground. And so President Bush has an almost certain chance of defeating Democratic nominee Donald Trump, whose taunts that Bush is 'low energy', while successful with his base, have failed to sway the public. And it leaves historians wondering, after this turn of events; what if Ronald Reagan had lived and what path would he have taken America on?

 

[True Grit]

Snip

I find it hard to believe Nixon wouldn't be impeached.

 

[jack_donaghy_is_the_shado]

I find it hard to believe Nixon wouldn't be impeached.

I could change the POD. I only thought of it half way through the run

 

[bagelman]

37. Richard Nixon (Republican) 1969-1977
-1968: Robert Kennedy (Democratic), George Wallace (American Independent)
-1972: Hubert Humphrey (Democratic)
38. Henry S. Jackson (Democratic) 1977-1978
-1976: Bob Dole (Republican)
39. Robert Byrd (Democratic) 1978-1981
40. Ronald Reagan (Republican) 1981-1989
-1980: Robert Byrd (inc.) ("Independent" Democrat), George McGovern (Democratic)
-1984: Howard Zinn (Democratic), Geraldine Ferraro (True Democrat)
41. George Bush (Republican) 1989-1997
-1988: Howard Zinn (Democratic), Lyndon LaRouche (True Democrat)
-1992: Ross Perot (Reform), Jesse Jackson (Democratic), Lyndon LaRouche (True Democrat)
42. Ross Perot (Reform) 1997-2001
-1996: John Danforth (Republican), Lenora Fulani (Democratic), Lyndon LaRouche (True Democrat)
43. William J. Clinton (Republican) 2001-2005
-2000: Ross Perot (inc.) (Reform), Ralph Nader (Democratic), Lyndon LaRouche (True Democrat)
44. Jerry Brown (Reform) 2005-2013
2004: William Clinton (inc.) (Republican), Ralph Nader (Democratic), Lyndon LaRouche (True Democrat)
2008: George W. Bush (Republican), Dennis Kucinich (Democratic)

In this world the watergate scandal is delayed for years, breaking just in time to become an October surprise in the 1976 election. The dull Bob Dole was basically running as a third term of the still popular Nixon against a Democratic ticket seen as too right-wing by their base, this ticket being a desperate last minute compromise to prevent George Wallace from becoming the nominee. Nixon would never be charged with anything under the watergate scandal, and would eventually be pardoned by Ronald Reagan, but Dole was doomed. Henry Jackson wouldn't get the chance to fully implement his interventionist foreign policy, dying less than a year into his presidency in January 1978. The old southern democrat Robert Byrd would enter office, and say the n-word on live TV at least twice. Racial slurs would not be a successful method to improve the economy and neither would his supreme court nominees being rejected or Jackson's foreign adventures falling apart without his leadership. Byrd would refuse to cooperate with liberal northerners from his own party and would suffer the fate of John Tyler; banishment from the party, who would nominate the liberal George McGovern in 1980 to spite him. With the Democrats divided and loathed by each other and the electorate, Reagan would win in a landslide.

The Democratic party would react to this by shifting so far left as to defy what would normally be considered a realistic political timeline and nominate California congressman, activist, and author Howard Zinn. Feeling their party hijacked by radicals and leftist activists, Ted Kennedy would organize a run under the "True Democrat Party". Reagan is said to have laughed out loud at this news, but Kennedy had a brilliant plan that neither the president nor the "crazy pinko" Zinn could hope to outsmart. A plan that probably wouldn't have actually lead to him becoming president, just winning several states to make sure that the Democratic party would know not to nominate any socialists ever again. A plan he never got to execute because he was assassinated by an Ulster unionist businessman who attempted (and thankfully failed) to pin the crime on a hobo. Photographs of the businessman shaking hands with VP nominee Ferraro and her husband came out in August, leading to a conspiracy that she was involved, thus tanking the TD party's campaign.

Howard Zinn would be nominated again, and many in both the party and the general public took solace in the idea he would be more elected and palatable this time. This idea turned out to be false as Zinn decided to campaign more aggressively than in '84, hoping that it would work better than last time, revealing his true colors as a "Democratic Socialist". Instead he was seen as just as radical as before. The True Democrat party would be hijacked by Lyndon LaRouche and his movement after the establishment Democrats had switched back to the Democratic party, trying in vain to take it back from Zinn & Co. LaRouche would be that party's nominee for every election until 2004. 1988 would thus be another GOP landslide.

Ross Perot's Reform party would replace the Democrats as the rival to the GOP in the 1990s. In 2000 the Democrats would nominate Ralph Nader, considered by mainstream political society to be the last Democratic nominee of note.

"America's oldest and most forward thinking party" continues to nominate candidates and they have a following among African-Americans and leftists. Elder statesman Bernie Sanders is a rising star of the party, and rumors abound of a possible presidential run...

 

[Bulldoggus]

THE BIRTH OF THE SIXTH PARTY SYSTEM
2017-2025: Hillary Clinton/Tim Kaine (Democrat)
Def. Donald Trump/Mike Pence (Republican), Gary Johnson/Bill Weld (Libertarian), Jill Stein/Ajamu Baraka (Green).
Def. John Kasich/Charlie Baker (Main Street Republican), Chris Christie/Jeff Sessions (Trumpist Movement), Ted Cruz/Rand Paul (Constitutional Conservative), Jill Stein/H. A. Goodman (Green).
2025-2029: Cory Booker/Joe Kennedy III (D.)
Def. Charlie Baker/Susan Collins (MSGOP), Tulsi Gabbard/Zephyr Teachout (Progressive), Chris Christie/Tom Tancredo (TM), Rand Paul/Mike Lee (CC), H. A Goodman/Cenk Uygur (Green).
2029-2033: Cory Booker/Bruce Rauner (D.)
Def. Zephyr Teachout/Keith Ellison (Prog.), Curt Schilling/Mike Flynn (TM), Mike Lee/David French (CC), Jared Taylor/Matthew Forney (True Trumpist Alt-Right Movement).
2033-: Keith Ellison/Bao Nguyen (Prog.)
Def. Joe Kennedy III/Joaquin Castro (D), Donald J. Trump, Jr./Jared Taylor (TM/TTARM)

 

[Miss Teri]

Cenk Uygur

He wasn't born in the United States.

 

[Gorrister]

He wasn't born in the United States.

Sometimes I think that the Hatch Amendment is a bad thing...

 

[Miss Teri]

Sometimes I think that the Hatch Amendment is a bad thing...

I don't get the implication.

 

[Gorrister]

I don't get the implication.

Simce if it passes, cheery chappies like Cenk could run. it was a joke btw

 

[Miss Teri]

Simce if it passes, cheery chappies like Cenk could run. it was a joke btw

Oh, because when I googled "Hatch Amendment", it gave me this:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protection_of_Pupil_Rights_Amendment

 

[Gog-Clocthoth]

"Presidents" of the United States
The United States is ruled by the Council of Three. The members serve for life, and the longest-serving member acts as a ceremonial President.

The rules for this Council are as follows:
1. Members serve for life.
2. No two members can be from the same state.
3. When a member dies, an election is held as soon as possible to replace them. (In practice, this means I determined membership based on the nearest Presidential election, going in the order of Winning President>winning VP, 2nd place ticket, and so on.)
4. An ineligible candidate is skipped over, example: if the Council consists of: Joe Biden(D-DE), Hillary Clinton(D-NY) and Tim Kaine(D-VA); Biden dies in 2017 and 2016(OTL) is the nearest election. Since Donald Trump is from NY, he is skipped and Mike Pence(R-IN) would take the spot. If another one of them were to die, it goes to Johnson or McMullin or whoever leads the third place ticket, provided they are eligible.

List of Presidents:
1. George Washington(I-VA) 1789-1799
2. John Adams(F-MA) 1799-1826
3. John Jay(F-NY) 1826-1829
4. John C. Calhoun(DR/D-SC) 1829-1850
5. Zachary Taylor(W-LA) 1850
6. Millard Fillmore(W-NY) 1850-1874
7. William O. Butler(D-KY) 1874-1880
8. Ulysses S. Grant(R-IL) 1880-1885
9. Rutherford B. Hayes(R-OH) 1885-1893
10. James G. Blaine(R-ME) 1893
11. John St. John(P-KS) 1893-1916
12. William H. Taft(R-OH) 1916-1930
13. Calvin Coolidge(R-MA) 1930-1933
14. Charles G. Dawes(R-IL) 1933-1951
15. Herbert C. Hoover(R-CA) 1951-1964
16. Harry S Truman(D-MO) 1964-1972
17. Lyndon B. Johnson(D-TX) 1972-1973
18. Richard M. Nixon(R-CA) 1973-1994
19. Spiro T. Agnew(R-MD) 1994-1996
20. George S. McGovern(D-SD) 1996-2012
21. William J. Clinton(D-AR) 2012-Present

The longest serving President is John Adams at 27 years; the shortest is James G. Blaine, at 10 days.

Since this is the "Alternate Presidents" thread, those are the Presidents. Here's the entire Council by date, with elections taking place the day someone dies (obviously impossible, but that's how it's done for the sake of the scenario).

Spoiler: Lots of Names and Pretty Colors Incoming

04/30/1789-12/14/1799: George Washington(I-VA), John Adams(F-MA), John Jay(F-NY) Ended with: Washington's Death(67); Thomas Jefferson(DR-VA) elected
12/14/1799-07/04/1826: John Adams(F-MA), John Jay(F-NY), Thomas Jefferson(DR-VA) Ended with: Deaths of Adams(90) and Jefferson(83); John C. Calhoun(DR-SC) and Andrew Jackson(DR-TN) elected
07/04/1826-05/17/1829: John Jay(F-NY), John C. Calhoun(DR-SC), Andrew Jackson(DR-TN) Ended with: Jay's Death(83); John Q. Adams(NR-MA) elected
05/17/1829-06/08/1845: John C. Calhoun(DR/D-SC), Andrew Jackson(D-TN), John Q. Adams(NR-MA) Ended with: Jackson's Death(78); James K. Polk(D-TN) elected
06/08/1845-02/23/1848: John C. Calhoun(D-SC), John Q. Adams(W-MA), James K. Polk(D-TN) Ended with: Adams Death(80); Zachary Taylor(W-LA) elected
02/23/1848-06/15/1849: John C. Calhoun(D-SC), James K. Polk(D-TN), Zachary Taylor(W-LA) Ended with: Polk's Death(53); Millard Fillmore(W-NY) elected
06/15/1849-03/31/1850: John C. Calhoun(D-SC), Zachary Taylor(W-LA), Millard Fillmore(W-NY) Ended with: Calhoun's Death(68); Lewis Cass(D-MI) elected
03/31/1850-07/09/1850: Zachary Taylor(W-LA), Millard Fillmore(W-NY), Lewis Cass(D-MI) Ended with: Taylor's Death(65); William O. Butler(D-KY) elected
07/09/1850-06/17/1866: Millard Fillmore(W-NY), Lewis Cass(D-MI), William O. Butler(D-KY) Ended with: Cass's Death(83); Andrew Johnson(D-TN) elected
06/17/1866-03/08/1874: Millard Fillmore(W-NY), William O. Butler(D-KY), Andrew Johnson(D-TN) Ended with: Fillmore's Death(74); Ulysses S. Grant(R-IL) elected
03/08/1874-07/31/1875: William O. Butler(D-KY), Andrew Johnson(D-TN), Ulysses S. Grant(R-IL) Ended with: Johnson's Death(66); Rutherford B. Hayes(R-OH) elected
07/31/1875-08/06/1880: William O. Butler(D-KY), Ulysses S. Grant(R-IL), Rutherford B. Hayes(R-OH) Ended with: Butler's Death(89); Chester A. Arthur(R-NY) elected[1]
08/06/1880-07/23/1885: Ulysses S. Grant(R-IL), Rutherford B. Hayes(R-OH), Chester A. Arthur(R-NY) Ended with: Grant's Death(63); Thomas A. Hendricks(D-IN) elected[2]
07/23/1885-11/25/1885: Rutherford B. Hayes(R-OH), Chester A. Arthur(R-NY), Thomas A. Hendricks(D-IN) Ended with: Hendricks's Death(66); James G. Blaine(R-ME) elected
11/25/1885-11/18/1886: Rutherford B. Hayes(R-OH), Chester A. Arthur(R-NY), James G. Blaine(R-ME) Ended with: Arthur's Death(57); John A. Logan(R-IL) elected
11/18/1886-12/26/1886: Rutherford B. Hayes(R-OH), James G. Blaine(R-ME), John A. Logan(R-IL) Ended with: Logan's Death(60); John St. John(P-KS) elected
12/26/1886-01/17/1893: Rutherford B. Hayes(R-OH), James G. Blaine(R-ME), John St. John(P-KS) Ended with: Hayes' Death(70); Grover Cleveland(D-NY) elected
01/17/1893-01/27/1893: James G. Blaine(R-ME), John St. John(P-KS), Grover Cleveland(D-NY) Ended with: Blaine's Death(62); Adlai E. Stevenson I(D-IL) elected
01/27/1893-06/24/1908: John St. John(P-KS), Grover Cleveland(D-NY), Adlai E. Stevenson I(D-IL) Ended with: Cleveland's Death(62); William H. Taft(R-OH) elected
06/24/1908-06/14/1914: John St. John(P-KS), Adlai E. Stevenson I(D-IL), William H. Taft(R-OH) Ended with: Stevenson's Death(78); Woodrow Wilson(D-NJ) elected
06/14/1914-08/31/1916: John St. John(P-KS), William H. Taft(R-OH), Woodrow Wilson(D-NJ) Ended with: St. John's Death(83); Thomas R. Marshall(D-IN) elected
08/31/1916-02/03/1924: William H. Taft(R-OH), Woodrow Wilson(D-NJ), Thomas R. Marshall(D-IN) Ended with: Wilson's Death(67); Calvin Coolidge(R-MA) elected
02/03/1924-06/01/1925: William H. Taft(R-OH), Thomas R. Marshall(D-IN), Calvin Coolidge(R-MA) Ended with: Marshall's Death(71); Charles G. Dawes(R-IL) elected
06/01/1925-03/08/1930: William H. Taft(R-OH), Calvin Coolidge(R-MA), Charles G. Dawes(R-IL) Ended with: Taft's Death(72); Herbert C. Hoover(R-CA) elected
03/08/1930-01/05/1933: Calvin Coolidge(R-MA), Charles G. Dawes(R-IL), Herbert C. Hoover(R-CA) Ended with: Coolidge's Death(60); Franklin D. Roosevelt(D-NY) elected
01/05/1933-04/12/1945: Charles G. Dawes(R-IL), Herbert C. Hoover(R-CA), Franklin D. Roosevelt(D-NY) Ended with: Roosevelt's Death(63); Harry S Truman(D-MO) elected
04/12/1945-04/23/1951: Charles G. Dawes(R-IL), Herbert C. Hoover(R-CA), Harry S Truman(D-MO) Ended with: Dawes's Death(85); Dwight D. Eisenhower(R-NY) elected
04/23/1951-10/20/1964: Herbert C. Hoover(R-CA), Harry S Truman(D-MO), Dwight D. Eisenhower(R-NY) Ended with: Hoover's Death(90); Lyndon B. Johnson(D-TX) elected
10/20/1964-03/28/1969: Harry S Truman(D-MO), Dwight D. Eisenhower(R-NY), Lyndon B. Johnson(D-TX) Ended with: Eisenhower's Death(78); Richard M. Nixon(R-NY) elected
03/28/1969-12/26/1972: Harry S Truman(D-MO), Lyndon B. Johnson(D-TX), Richard M. Nixon(R-NY) Ended with: Truman's Death(88); Spiro T. Agnew(R-MD) elected
12/26/1972-01/22/1973: Lyndon B. Johnson(D-TX), Richard M. Nixon(R-CA), Spiro T. Agnew(R-MD) Ended with: Johnson's Death(64); George S. McGovern(D-SD) elected)
01/22/1973-04/22/1994: Richard M. Nixon(R-CA), Spiro T. Agnew(R-MD), George S. McGovern(D-SD) Ended with: Nixon's Death(81); William J. Clinton(D-AR) elected
04/22/1994-09/17/1996: Spiro T. Agnew(R-MD), George S. McGovern(D-SD), William J. Clinton(D-AR) Ended with: Agnew's Death(77); Albert Gore, Jr.(D-TN) elected
09/17/1996-10/31/2012: George S. McGovern(D-SD), William J. Clinton(D-AR), Albert Gore, Jr.(D-TN) Ended with: McGovern's Death(90); Barrack Obama(D-IL) elected
10/31/2012-Present: William J. Clinton(D-AR), Albert Gore, Jr.(D-TN), Barack Obama(D-IL) [3]

1. James A. Garfield(R-OH) would have succeeded Butler in 1875, however Rutherford B. Hayes(R-OH), was already a member, and thus Garfield was skipped in favor of Chester A. Arthur(R-NY)
2. Following the same rule as in #1; Arthur already represented New York, so Grover Cleveland(D-NY) was skipped and Hendricks took his place.
3. W. Clinton: 70 A. Gore: 68 B. Obama: 55

It'd be interesting to see how much would change with a period between the incumbent's death and the next election or appointment(which might make more sense in this system), as we could very well see a few more Councillors with very short terms (like John Logan) being skipped over entirely, likely elevating more third-party candidates onto the Council.

As for setting the Council at three, I thought about doing five or even a higher number; but some of the earlier candidates, as well as less prominent ones in general, don't have their death dates pinned down. I suppose I could just skip them, but it doesn't feel as genuine. I might try five one day, that's about it. Though it would be cool to see a constantly changing body with every candidate who received over a certain percent of the vote (to weed out obscure people) being given a seat, then trying to figure out the issues of the day. Enjoy!

 

[KiwiEater]

"Presidents" of the United States
The United States is ruled by the Council of Three. The members serve for life, and the longest-serving member acts as a ceremonial President.

The rules for this Council are as follows:
1. Members serve for life.
2. No two members can be from the same state.
3. When a member dies, an election is held as soon as possible to replace them. (In practice, this means I determined membership based on the nearest Presidential election, going in the order of Winning President>winning VP, 2nd place ticket, and so on.)
4. An ineligible candidate is skipped over, example: if the Council consists of: Joe Biden(D-DE), Hillary Clinton(D-NY) and Tim Kaine(D-VA); Biden dies in 2017 and 2016(OTL) is the nearest election. Since Donald Trump is from NY, he is skipped and Mike Pence(R-IN) would take the spot. If another one of them were to die, it goes to Johnson or McMullin or whoever leads the third place ticket, provided they are eligible.

List of Presidents:
1. George Washington(I-VA) 1789-1799
2. John Adams(F-MA) 1799-1826
3. John Jay(F-NY) 1826-1829
4. John C. Calhoun(DR/D-SC) 1829-1850
5. Zachary Taylor(W-LA) 1850
6. Millard Fillmore(W-NY) 1850-1874
7. William O. Butler(D-KY) 1874-1880
8. Ulysses S. Grant(R-IL) 1880-1885
9. Rutherford B. Hayes(R-OH) 1885-1893
10. James G. Blaine(R-ME) 1893
11. John St. John(P-KS) 1893-1916
12. William H. Taft(R-OH) 1916-1930
13. Calvin Coolidge(R-MA) 1930-1933
14. Charles G. Dawes(R-IL) 1933-1951
15. Herbert C. Hoover(R-CA) 1951-1964
16. Harry S Truman(D-MO) 1964-1972
17. Lyndon B. Johnson(D-TX) 1972-1973
18. Richard M. Nixon(R-CA) 1973-1994
19. Spiro T. Agnew(R-MD) 1994-1996
20. George S. McGovern(D-SD) 1996-2012
21. William J. Clinton(D-AR) 2012-Present

The longest serving President is John Adams at 27 years; the shortest is James G. Blaine, at 10 days.

Since this is the "Alternate Presidents" thread, those are the Presidents. Here's the entire Council by date, with elections taking place the day someone dies (obviously impossible, but that's how it's done for the sake of the scenario).

Spoiler: Lots of Names and Pretty Colors Incoming

04/30/1789-12/14/1799: George Washington(I-VA), John Adams(F-MA), John Jay(F-NY) Ended with: Washington's Death(67); Thomas Jefferson(DR-VA) elected
12/14/1799-07/04/1826: John Adams(F-MA), John Jay(F-NY), Thomas Jefferson(DR-VA) Ended with: Deaths of Adams(90) and Jefferson(83); John C. Calhoun(DR-SC) and Andrew Jackson(DR-TN) elected
07/04/1826-05/17/1829: John Jay(F-NY), John C. Calhoun(DR-SC), Andrew Jackson(DR-TN) Ended with: Jay's Death(83); John Q. Adams(NR-MA) elected
05/17/1829-06/08/1845: John C. Calhoun(DR/D-SC), Andrew Jackson(D-TN), John Q. Adams(NR-MA) Ended with: Jackson's Death(78); James K. Polk(D-TN) elected
06/08/1845-02/23/1848: John C. Calhoun(D-SC), John Q. Adams(W-MA), James K. Polk(D-TN) Ended with: Adams Death(80); Zachary Taylor(W-LA) elected
02/23/1848-06/15/1849: John C. Calhoun(D-SC), James K. Polk(D-TN), Zachary Taylor(W-LA) Ended with: Polk's Death(53); Millard Fillmore(W-NY) elected
06/15/1849-03/31/1850: John C. Calhoun(D-SC), Zachary Taylor(W-LA), Millard Fillmore(W-NY) Ended with: Calhoun's Death(68); Lewis Cass(D-MI) elected
03/31/1850-07/09/1850: Zachary Taylor(W-LA), Millard Fillmore(W-NY), Lewis Cass(D-MI) Ended with: Taylor's Death(65); William O. Butler(D-KY) elected
07/09/1850-06/17/1866: Millard Fillmore(W-NY), Lewis Cass(D-MI), William O. Butler(D-KY) Ended with: Cass's Death(83); Andrew Johnson(D-TN) elected
06/17/1866-03/08/1874: Millard Fillmore(W-NY), William O. Butler(D-KY), Andrew Johnson(D-TN) Ended with: Fillmore's Death(74); Ulysses S. Grant(R-IL) elected
03/08/1874-07/31/1875: William O. Butler(D-KY), Andrew Johnson(D-TN), Ulysses S. Grant(R-IL) Ended with: Johnson's Death(66); Rutherford B. Hayes(R-OH) elected
07/31/1875-08/06/1880: William O. Butler(D-KY), Ulysses S. Grant(R-IL), Rutherford B. Hayes(R-OH) Ended with: Butler's Death(89); Chester A. Arthur(R-NY) elected[1]
08/06/1880-07/23/1885: Ulysses S. Grant(R-IL), Rutherford B. Hayes(R-OH), Chester A. Arthur(R-NY) Ended with: Grant's Death(63); Thomas A. Hendricks(D-IN) elected[2]
07/23/1885-11/25/1885: Rutherford B. Hayes(R-OH), Chester A. Arthur(R-NY), Thomas A. Hendricks(D-IN) Ended with: Hendricks's Death(66); James G. Blaine(R-ME) elected
11/25/1885-11/18/1886: Rutherford B. Hayes(R-OH), Chester A. Arthur(R-NY), James G. Blaine(R-ME) Ended with: Arthur's Death(57); John A. Logan(R-IL) elected
11/18/1886-12/26/1886: Rutherford B. Hayes(R-OH), James G. Blaine(R-ME), John A. Logan(R-IL) Ended with: Logan's Death(60); John St. John(P-KS) elected
12/26/1886-01/17/1893: Rutherford B. Hayes(R-OH), James G. Blaine(R-ME), John St. John(P-KS) Ended with: Hayes' Death(70); Grover Cleveland(D-NY) elected
01/17/1893-01/27/1893: James G. Blaine(R-ME), John St. John(P-KS), Grover Cleveland(D-NY) Ended with: Blaine's Death(62); Adlai E. Stevenson I(D-IL) elected
01/27/1893-06/24/1908: John St. John(P-KS), Grover Cleveland(D-NY), Adlai E. Stevenson I(D-IL) Ended with: Cleveland's Death(62); William H. Taft(R-OH) elected
06/24/1908-06/14/1914: John St. John(P-KS), Adlai E. Stevenson I(D-IL), William H. Taft(R-OH) Ended with: Stevenson's Death(78); Woodrow Wilson(D-NJ) elected
06/14/1914-08/31/1916: John St. John(P-KS), William H. Taft(R-OH), Woodrow Wilson(D-NJ) Ended with: St. John's Death(83); Thomas R. Marshall(D-IN) elected
08/31/1916-02/03/1924: William H. Taft(R-OH), Woodrow Wilson(D-NJ), Thomas R. Marshall(D-IN) Ended with: Wilson's Death(67); Calvin Coolidge(R-MA) elected
02/03/1924-06/01/1925: William H. Taft(R-OH), Thomas R. Marshall(D-IN), Calvin Coolidge(R-MA) Ended with: Marshall's Death(71); Charles G. Dawes(R-IL) elected
06/01/1925-03/08/1930: William H. Taft(R-OH), Calvin Coolidge(R-MA), Charles G. Dawes(R-IL) Ended with: Taft's Death(72); Herbert C. Hoover(R-CA) elected
03/08/1930-01/05/1933: Calvin Coolidge(R-MA), Charles G. Dawes(R-IL), Herbert C. Hoover(R-CA) Ended with: Coolidge's Death(60); Franklin D. Roosevelt(D-NY) elected
01/05/1933-04/12/1945: Charles G. Dawes(R-IL), Herbert C. Hoover(R-CA), Franklin D. Roosevelt(D-NY) Ended with: Roosevelt's Death(63); Harry S Truman(D-MO) elected
04/12/1945-04/23/1951: Charles G. Dawes(R-IL), Herbert C. Hoover(R-CA), Harry S Truman(D-MO) Ended with: Dawes's Death(85); Dwight D. Eisenhower(R-NY) elected
04/23/1951-10/20/1964: Herbert C. Hoover(R-CA), Harry S Truman(D-MO), Dwight D. Eisenhower(R-NY) Ended with: Hoover's Death(90); Lyndon B. Johnson(D-TX) elected
10/20/1964-03/28/1969: Harry S Truman(D-MO), Dwight D. Eisenhower(R-NY), Lyndon B. Johnson(D-TX) Ended with: Eisenhower's Death(78); Richard M. Nixon(R-NY) elected
03/28/1969-12/26/1972: Harry S Truman(D-MO), Lyndon B. Johnson(D-TX), Richard M. Nixon(R-NY) Ended with: Truman's Death(88); Spiro T. Agnew(R-MD) elected
12/26/1972-01/22/1973: Lyndon B. Johnson(D-TX), Richard M. Nixon(R-CA), Spiro T. Agnew(R-MD) Ended with: Johnson's Death(64); George S. McGovern(D-SD) elected)
01/22/1973-04/22/1994: Richard M. Nixon(R-CA), Spiro T. Agnew(R-MD), George S. McGovern(D-SD) Ended with: Nixon's Death(81); William J. Clinton(D-AR) elected
04/22/1994-09/17/1996: Spiro T. Agnew(R-MD), George S. McGovern(D-SD), William J. Clinton(D-AR) Ended with: Agnew's Death(77); Albert Gore, Jr.(D-TN) elected
09/17/1996-10/31/2012: George S. McGovern(D-SD), William J. Clinton(D-AR), Albert Gore, Jr.(D-TN) Ended with: McGovern's Death(90); Barrack Obama(D-IL) elected
10/31/2012-Present: William J. Clinton(D-AR), Albert Gore, Jr.(D-TN), Barack Obama(D-IL) [3]

1. James A. Garfield(R-OH) would have succeeded Butler in 1875, however Rutherford B. Hayes(R-OH), was already a member, and thus Garfield was skipped in favor of Chester A. Arthur(R-NY)
2. Following the same rule as in #1; Arthur already represented New York, so Grover Cleveland(D-NY) was skipped and Hendricks took his place.
3. W. Clinton: 70 A. Gore: 68 B. Obama: 55

It'd be interesting to see how much would change with a period between the incumbent's death and the next election or appointment(which might make more sense in this system), as we could very well see a few more Councillors with very short terms (like John Logan) being skipped over entirely, likely elevating more third-party candidates onto the Council.

As for setting the Council at three, I thought about doing five or even a higher number; but some of the earlier candidates, as well as less prominent ones in general, don't have their death dates pinned down. I suppose I could just skip them, but it doesn't feel as genuine. I might try five one day, that's about it. Though it would be cool to see a constantly changing body with every candidate who received over a certain percent of the vote (to weed out obscure people) being given a seat, then trying to figure out the issues of the day. Enjoy!

Why does John St. John become a member of the council instead of it choosing Cleveland or Hendricks?

 

[Accurateworldwar]

Read my Lips
41. Vice President George H.W. Bush/Senator Dan Quayle (1989-1997)
-defeated Former Governor Michael Dukakis/Senator Lloyd Bentsen in 1988
President George H.W. Bush/Vice President Dan Quayle
-defeated Governor Bill Clinton/Senator Al Gore in 1992
42. Former Senator Al Gore/House Minority Leader Dick Gephardt (1997-2001)
-defeated Vice President Dan Quayle/Senator Richard Lugar in 1996
43. Senator John McCain*/Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich (2001-2003)
-defeated President Al Gore/Vice President Dick Gephardt in 2000
44. Vice President Newt Gingrich/Former Secretary of Labor Elizabeth Dole (2003-2009)
-defeated Governor Howard Dean/Senator John F. Kerry in 2004
45. Senator John Kerry/Governor Barack Obama (2009-2013)
-defeated President Newt Gingrich/ Vice President Elizabeth Dole in 2008
46. Ambassador Jon Huntsman Jr./Former Mayor Donald Trump (2013-present)
-defeated President John Kerry/Vice President Barack Obama in 2012

2016 Election:
President Jon Huntsman/ Former Governor Mitt Romney vs Former Vice President Barack Obama**/Governor Rahm Emanuel
*assassinated
**Obama ITTL served as Governor of Hawaii, not Illinois, allowing Rahm Emanuel on the ticket.

 

[Gog-Clocthoth]

Why does John St. John become a member of the council instead of it choosing Cleveland or Hendricks?

Well, Thomas A. Hendricks would've been dead by the time John St. John ascended to the council, so he's out.

For Cleveland, we have to go back a little further. If you look in the "Spoilered" section, you have a line that says:
08/06/1880-07/23/1885: Ulysses S. Grant(R-IL),....

2. No two members can be from the same state.
4. An ineligible candidate is skipped over, example: if the Council consists of: Joe Biden(D-DE), Hillary Clinton(D-NY) and Tim Kaine(D-VA); Biden dies in 2017 and 2016(OTL) is the nearest election. Since Donald Trump is from NY, he is skipped and Mike Pence(R-IN) would take the spot. If another one of them were to die, it goes to Johnson or McMullin or whoever leads the third place ticket, provided they are eligible.
...
08/06/1880-07/23/1885: Ulysses S. Grant(R-IL), Rutherford B. Hayes(R-OH), Chester A. Arthur(R-NY) Ended with: Grant's Death(63); Thomas A. Hendricks(D-IN) elected[2]
07/23/1885-11/25/1885: Rutherford B. Hayes(R-OH), Chester A. Arthur(R-NY), Thomas A. Hendricks(D-IN) Ended with: Hendricks's Death(66); James G. Blaine(R-ME) elected
11/25/1885-11/18/1886: Rutherford B. Hayes(R-OH), Chester A. Arthur(R-NY), James G. Blaine(R-ME) Ended with: Arthur's Death(57); John A. Logan(R-IL) elected
11/18/1886-12/26/1886: Rutherford B. Hayes(R-OH), James G. Blaine(R-ME), John A. Logan(R-IL) Ended with: Logan's Death(60); John St. John(P-KS) elected
12/26/1886-01/17/1893: Rutherford B. Hayes(R-OH), James G. Blaine(R-ME), John St. John(P-KS) Ended with: Hayes' Death(70); Grover Cleveland(D-NY) elected
...
2. Following the same rule as in #1; Arthur already represented New York, so Grover Cleveland(D-NY) was skipped and Hendricks took his place.

I also include rules 2 and 4 above, as they are relevant. The vacancies starting with Grant's Death were filled using OTL's 1884 election. As such, Grover Cleveland was first in line. Since Chester Arthur, a fellow New Yorker, was already on the Council; Cleveland was skipped. The type of "skip" is a "permanent" one, meaning once Arthur dies, there's no going back to Cleveland. It proceeds from Hendricks to the second place ticket, President then VP, and so on through Prohibition ticket and then Benjamin Butler's Greenback ticket. Cleveland can come on in 1893, however, as it is based on the 1892 election (meaning he's first in line again) and there isn't a New York councillor.

The only way I could imagine putting him on there in 1886 is if every other possible candidate in 1884 had died, and even then it would be contingent on him being the only New Yorker on the council. If not, I would probably go forward to 1888, or if I could find some evidence that Cleveland changed his residence, I might have that occur to make him eligible. Unfortunately for Cleveland, he doesn't leave New York for NJ until 1897, long after 1886 when he would need to be eligible.

Hope that kind of clears things up.

 

[XO Maenadicus]

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1802-1806: Henry Addington (T-Wiltshire), William W. Grendville (W-Buckinghamshire), William Pitt (T-Cambridgeshire)
1806-1809: Henry Addington (T-Wiltshire), William W. Grendville (W-Buckinghamshire), William H. C. Cavendish-Betinck (T-Dorset)
1809-1812: Henry Addington (T-Wiltshire), William W. Grendville (W-Buckinghamshire), Spencer Perceval (T-Northampronshire)
1812-1828: Henry Addington (T-Wiltshire), William W. Grendville (W-Buckinghamshire), Robert B. Jenkinson (T-Merseyside)
1828-1834: Henry Addington (T-Wiltshire), William W. Grendville (W-Buckinghamshire), Henry Petty-Mitzmaurice (W-Somerset)
1834-1844: Henry Addington (C-Wiltshire), Henry Petty-Mitzmaurice (W-Somerset), William Lamb (W-Hertfordshire)
1844-1848: Henry Petty-Mitzmaurice (W-Somerset), William Lamb (W-Hertfordshire), Robert Peel (C-Starffordshire)
1848-1850: Henry Petty-Mitzmaurice (W-Somerset), Robert Peel (C-Starffordshire), Edward G. G. Smith-Stanley (C-Merseyside)
1850-1863: Henry Petty-Mitzmaurice (W-Somerset), Edward G. G. Smith-Stanley (C-Merseyside), John Russell (W-City of London)
1863-1865: Edward G. G. Smith-Stanley (C-Merseyside), John Russell (Lib-City of London), Henry J. Temple (Lib-Devon)
1865-1869: Edward G. G. Smith-Stanley (C-Merseyside), John Russell (Lib-City of London), William E. Gladstone (Lib-Greater London)
1869-1878: John Russell (W-City of London), William E. Gladstone (Lib-Greater London), Benjamin Disraeli (C-Buckinghamshire)
1878-1881: William E. Gladstone (Lib-Greater London), Benjamin Disraeli (C-Buckinghamshire), Spencer C. Cavendish (Lib-Lancashire)
1881-1895: William E. Gladstone (Lib-Greater London), Spencer C. Cavendish (Lib-Lancashire), William Shaw (HR-Cork)
1895-1898: William E. Gladstone (Lib-Greater London), Spencer C. Cavendish (Lib-Lancashire), Robert A. T. Gascoyne-Cecil (C-Wiltshire)
1898-1903: Spencer C. Cavendish (Lib-Lancashire), Robert A. T. Gascoyne-Cecil (C-Wiltshire), Henry Campbell-Bannerman (Lib-Stirling and Falkirk)
1903-1908: Spencer C. Cavendish (Lib-Lancashire), Henry Campbell-Bannerman (Lib-Stirling and Falkirk), Arthur J. Balfour (C-Greater Manchester)
1908: Henry Campbell-Bannerman (Lib-Stirling and Falkirk), Arthur J. Balfour (C-Greater Manchester), Herbert H. Asquith (Lib-Fife)
1908-1918: Arthur J. Balfour (C-Greater Manchester), Herbert H. Asquith (Lib-Fife), John Redmond (IP-Waterford)
1918-1923: Arthur J. Balfour (C-Greater Manchester), Herbert H. Asquith (Lib-Fife), Andrew B. Law (C-Glasgow)
1923-1928: Arthur J. Balfour (C-Greater Manchester), Herbert H. Asquith (Lib-Fife), Stanley Baldwin (C-Worcestershire)
1928-1930: Arthur J. Balfour (C-Greater Manchester), Stanley Baldwin (C-Worcestershire), Ramsay MacDonald (Lab-Durham)
1930-1937: Stanley Baldwin (C-Worcestershire), Ramsay MacDonald (Lab-Durham), David L. George (Lib-Gwynedd)
1937-1945: Stanley Baldwin (C-Worcestershire), David L. George (Lib-Gwynedd), Clement Attlee (Lab-Greater London)
1945-1947: Stanley Baldwin (C-Worcestershire), Clement Attlee (Lab-Greater London), Winston Churchill (C-Essex)
1947-1965: Clement Attlee (Lab-Greater London), Winston Churchill (C-Essex), Henry M. Sinclair (Lib-Caithness)
1965-1967: Clement Attlee (Lab-Greater London), Henry M. Sinclair (Lib-Caithness), Harold Wilson (Lib-Lancashire)
1967-1970: Henry M. Sinclair (Lib-Caithness), Harold Wilson (Lib-Lancashire), Edward R. G. Heath (Lab-Greater London)
1970-1995: Harold Wilson (Lib-Lancashire), Edward R. G. Heath (Lab-Greater London), Jeremy Thorpe (Lib-Devon)
1995-2005: Edward R. G. Heath (Lab-Greater London), Jeremy Thorpe (LD-Devon), Tony Blair (Lab-Durham)
2005-2014: Jeremy Thorpe (LD-Devon), Tony Blair (Lab-Durham), Michael Howard (C-Kent)
2014-present: Tony Blair (Lab-Durham), Michael Howard (C-Kent), David Cameron (C-Oxfordshire)

Spoiler: 'Straya

Note: Due to the small amount of states in Australia, up to 2 members may be from the same state.

1901-1913: William Lyne (P-TAS), Edmund Barton (P-NSW), George Reid (FT-NSW)
1913-1918: Edmund Barton (P-NSW), George Reid (FT-NSW), Andrew Fisher (Lab-QLD)
1918-1920: Edmund Barton (P-NSW), Andrew Fisher (Lab-QLD), Billy Hughes (N-VIC)
1920-1922: Andrew Fisher (Lab-QLD), Billy Hughes (N-VIC), Frank Tudor (Lab-VIC)
1922-1928: Andrew Fisher (Lab-QLD), Billy Hughes (N-VIC), Matthew Charlton (Lab-NSW)
1928-1948: Billy Hughes (N-VIC), Matthew Charlton (Lab-NSW), Stanley Bruce (N-VIC)
1948-1951: Billy Hughes (N-VIC), Stanley Bruce (N-VIC), Ben Chifley (Lab-NSW)
1951-1952: Billy Hughes (N-VIC), Stanley Bruce (N-VIC), Arthur Fadden (C-QLD)
1952-1965: Stanley Bruce (N-VIC), Arthur Fadden (C-QLD), H. V. Evatt (Lab-NSW)
1965-1967: Stanley Bruce (N-VIC), Arthur Fadden (C-QLD), Harold Holt (Lab-VIC)
1967: Arthur Fadden (C-QLD), Harold Holt (Lab-VIC), John Gorton (Lib-VIC)
1967-1973: Arthur Fadden (C-QLD), John Gorton (Lib-VIC), Gough Whitlam (Lab-NSW)
1973-1988: John Gorton (Lib-VIC), Gough Whitlam (Lab-NSW), William McMahon (Lib-NSW)
1988-2002: John Gorton (Lib-VIC), Gough Whitlam (Lab-NSW), Bob Hawke (Lab-VIC)
2002-2014: Gough Whitlam (Lab-NSW), Bob Hawke (Lab-VIC), John Howard (Lib-NSW)
2014-present: Bob Hawke (Lab-VIC), John Howard (Lib-NSW), Tony Abbott (Lib-NSW)

 

[glenn67]

Read my Lips

42. Former Senator Al Gore/House Minority Leader Dick Gephardt (1997-2001)
-defeated Vice President Dan Quayle/Senator Richard Lugar in 1996

Quayle and Lugar are both from Indiana. They can't run on the same ticket.

 

[Utgard96]

Quayle and Lugar are both from Indiana. They can't run on the same ticket.

They can, Indiana's electors just can't vote for them.

 

[Accurateworldwar]

Quayle and Lugar are both from Indiana. They can't run on the same ticket.

They can, Indiana's electors just can't vote for them.

We'll just say that Indiana was won by Gore anyways.