Kiev as soviet Stalingrad

Discussion in 'Alternate History Discussion: After 1900' started by Tuhachevskey, Mar 23, 2009.

  1. Tuhachevskey Well-Known Member

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    WI soviet south west front retreated into Kiev in september 1941 and created all-round defence with help of Kiev armed area and huge inventory of fuel ammunition and food, situated here? This plan was offered to the soviet general stab by Mikhail Kirponos, but Shaposhnikov disaproved it
     
  2. arctic warrior Scandinavian die-hard

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    My uneducated guess:
    The Kiev pocket hold out for at least a month given a new able commander of South West Front following the sack of Budjenny.
    This gives the Soviets the needed time to build up defences of Moscow but also prepare better in the south - Donetz basin.
    With Operation Typhoon being postponed for at least another 4 weeks or more due to wear on armoured and motorized units.

    Perhaps we may even see an earlier Soviet winter offensive with much greater advances of the Red Army!
     
  3. Tuhachevskey Well-Known Member

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    German could use here 6th and the 2nd armies.
     
  4. arctic warrior Scandinavian die-hard

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    Is this some kind of guess what?

    According to ever present Wiki they just did so; read.
     
  5. Tuhachevskey Well-Known Member

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    In RH they(soviet troops) were rounded up "in the field", here-in the city with supplies and fortifications
     
  6. arctic warrior Scandinavian die-hard

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    Well couldn't you just put forward your idea - I've already given something on what you persist in asking. :rolleyes: