Flag Thread III

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Tsao

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After the annexation of Quebec and the finalizing of the Commonwealth borders, it was decided to create a new, more American flag for the UPRA, one that removed traces of the flag of the St. Petersburg based "Soviet Union", an alliance of workers unions operating in Russia.

I think the stars are unnecessary.
 

billydan225

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a flag of communist New zealand

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nazi puppet states in OTL didn't usualy put a swastika on their flags. Can't think of one off the top of my head come to think of it that didn't already use it prior to ww2 (like finland). They wanted to pretend to be local national movements so maybe using one of the logo on dutch fascists would be more realistic.
 
nazi puppet states in OTL didn't usualy put a swastika on their flags. Can't think of one off the top of my head come to think of it that didn't already use it prior to ww2 (like finland). They wanted to pretend to be local national movements so maybe using one of the logo on dutch fascists would be more realistic.

Denmark did, but I can't think of any others, myself.
 
Denmark did, but I can't think of any others, myself.

I would assume this is a modern or self made flag as while the Danmarks Nationalsocialistiske Arbejderparti (DNSAP) did use a swastika (even before the war), the occupation era flag of Denmark was not defaced in any way.

Even the german army unit known as the Danish free corps used a Danish flag defaced with lettering:

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nazi puppet states in OTL didn't usualy put a swastika on their flags. Can't think of one off the top of my head come to think of it that didn't already use it prior to ww2 (like finland). They wanted to pretend to be local national movements so maybe using one of the logo on dutch fascists would be more realistic.

The Air Force unit flags and the Presidential Standard are the only Finnish flags that had (or have) a swastika. And in the president's flag it is just as a part of the design of the Cross of Liberty depicted in the upper left corner; as such, one can easily miss it. So while the swastika was used heavily by Finland in 1918-1944 (and somewhat still today) in things to do with the military and the state, even then it was surprisingly absent from the flag(s).

BTW, some might take issue with you equating Finland to a "Nazi puppet state".
 
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The Air Force unit flags and the Presidential Standard are the only Finnish flags that had (or have) a swastika. And in the president's flag it is just as a part of the design of the Cross of Liberty depicted in the upper left corner; as such, one can easily miss it. So while the swastika was used heavily by Finland in 1918-1944 (and somewhat still today) in things to do with the military and the state, even then it was surprisingly absent from the flag(s).

BTW, some might take issue with you equating Finland to a "Nazi puppet state".

No offence intended, I could have worded that better in hindsight.

Basicaly what I was pointing at was that non-german flags (excepting political party ones) that used a swastika on them during the second world war were, as far as I'm aware, flags that already used it before the war so that having a german puppet state defacing its flag with a swastika simply due to its new status seemed highly unlikely to me.
 
No offence intended, I could have worded that better in hindsight.

None taken, I also thought it wasn't your meaning to put it that way. But the nitpicker in me just had to pounce.;)


Basicaly what I was pointing at was that non-german flags (excepting political party ones) that used a swastika on them during the second world war were, as far as I'm aware, flags that already used it before the war so that having a german puppet state defacing its flag with a swastika simply due to its new status seemed highly unlikely to me.

That seems to be patently true. I think even leaders of puppet states - or whoever designs the flags and such for them - are usually smart enough not to create symbols that scream "look, we're so a puppet state".:D Instead, in this case they would probably go for a nationalist or culturally "strong" symbology.

So going by that, in a TL where Finland truly was a Nazi puppet, it might use even less swastikas than it did IOTL. I mean would you use this if truly under Hitler's heel (but no wanting to show it):

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(That is, by the way, the current flag of the Finnish Air Force Staff.)
 
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