One might think....
They are being sent across, in order; the Panatal, the Gran Chaco, the driest and widest and totally uninhabited part of the Andes, and the driest desert outside of Antarctica. As an expeditionary force with their only supply being what they are carrying with them and what they might acquire from the Granadan navy at the far end.
Those men are dead.
They are being sent across, in order; the Panatal,
the Gran Chaco, the driest and widest and totally uninhabited part of the Andes, and the driest desert outside of Antarctica.
As an expeditionary force with their only supply being what they are carrying with them and what they might acquire from the Granadan navy at the far end.
Those men are dead.
Totally agree marching south through those deserts is completely impossible.
Glen
Interesting. The easterners haven't taken as much of Germany as I had feared. Still a lot but the main industrial areas should still be save.
No good asking for my vote. On a matter of principle I refuse to vote twice so I can't vote for you again.
Steve
The Panatel they had plenty of time to go through/around as this is within Brazil.
You mean Bolivia.
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Note that while there will definitely be some hard times and hardships, they are actually traversing open scrub woodland, not desert (yes, I know the official bounds of the Gran Chaco include this area, but there's desert, then there's desert). Also note that there are in fact populated areas they go through. They aren't going to the sea, they are going to the inland edge of the Atacama to secure that area.
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Don't use modern population maps for the 18th century - the Chaco was pretty much empty till the turn of the century. You are also incorrect on the conditions - the driest bits of the chaco are the ones they are going to have to go through. You also have a [I]rosy[/I] conception of what "Open Scrub Woodland" actually entails - its hard to move through whilst also being incredibly dry (especially during the dry season) and the in Chaco most water sources have problems with seasonality and salinity.
If you're saying they're occupying Bolivia you should have made that clear - though its a hell of an upwards slog. If this is a narrative ploy to make the Korsgaardists in Europe not collapse like the silly imperialists they are due to their inevitable supply problems I can think of better ways to go about it.
No one cares about securing the Atacama border with the mountains - there's a few via passes that ten men with explosives could shut down weeks before the arrival of an army, and in a united Spanish america timeline like this there's no point of even building the roads to Bolivia from the coast in the first place. The relevant connections for the Atacama are the naval one and the road south into Chile as the Peruvians found in the War of the Pacific
[quote]See above. They will also take from the native population - they will not be loved for this. Note too that they are not going all the way to the coast.[/QUOTE]
So? As soon as they depart potosi they are trying to keep an army together in several hundred kilometers of this: [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/18/Tambo_Quemado.jpg/800px-Tambo_Quemado.jpg well before reach the true desert.
So? Its still one of the most terrible environments on earth for a large group of soldiers, and one very hard to send supply chains through. Going round north is a long way and pretty bare bones on the supplies and populations, going round south is the war zone.
Don't use modern population maps for the 18th century - the Chaco was pretty much empty till the turn of the century. You are also incorrect on the conditions - the driest bits of the chaco are the ones they are going to have to go through. You also have a rosy conception of what "Open Scrub Woodland" actually entails - its hard to move through whilst also being incredibly dry (especially during the dry season) and the in Chaco most water sources have problems with seasonality and salinity.
If you're saying they're occupying Bolivia you should have made that clear - though its a hell of an upwards slog. If this is a narrative ploy to make the Korsgaardists in Europe not collapse like the silly imperialists they are due to their inevitable supply problems I can think of better ways to go about it.
No one cares about securing the Atacama border with the mountains - there's a few via passes that ten men with explosives could shut down weeks before the arrival of an army, and in a united Spanish america timeline like this there's no point of even building the roads to Bolivia from the coast in the first place. The relevant connections for the Atacama are the naval one and the road south into Chile as the Peruvians found in the War of the Pacific
So? As soon as they depart potosi they are trying to keep an army together in several hundred kilometers of this:well before reach the true desert.
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