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1772 AD: *The british pass the Bill Of The Rights Of The Colonial which grant the colonials of british of irish descent the abillirty to vote for the english parliament.This however anger the french population in Quebec.
*Johann Friedrich Struensee and Caroline Matilda of Wales,the current queen of Denmark,are arrested.Johann is later executerd while Caroline to Hanover.
*The first partition of poland is agreed upon,and executed by Russia,Prussia and Austria.
*The british vessel of Gaspee is burned by Quebecois in Rhode Island.
*Slavery is abolishied in Great Britain and in all the colonies that are able to vote for parliament.
* Mount Papandayan erupts killing several thousands in western Java.
*King Gustav III of Sweden adopts the Instrument of government.
*Mission San Luis Obispo de Tolosa is founded by the spanish in California.
*Johann Friedrich Struensee and Caroline Matilda of Wales,the current queen of Denmark,are arrested.Johann is later executerd while Caroline to Hanover.
*The first partition of poland is agreed upon,and executed by Russia,Prussia and Austria.
*The british vessel of Gaspee is burned by Quebecois in Rhode Island.
*Slavery is abolishied in Great Britain and in all the colonies that are able to vote for parliament.
* Mount Papandayan erupts killing several thousands in western Java.
*King Gustav III of Sweden adopts the Instrument of government.
*Mission San Luis Obispo de Tolosa is founded by the spanish in California.
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1773 AD:
*The first museum in the Americas is openeed in Cahrleston,South Carolina.
*Captain James Cook cross the antarctic circle.
*The royal swedish opera is established and perform the first opera in swedish at the Bollhuset in Stockholm.
*The british parliament agree to the Tea act with the approval of the colonial representatives.However the quebecois view the act as a mean to pressure them further.
*Ottoman rebels kill Ali Bey,sultan of Cairo.
*Pope Clement XIv publish the Dominus ac Redemptor bill which surpress the Society of Jesus.
*Daniel Boone attemp to colonise Kentucky but his group was attacked by native americans and his son was killed.
*America's first insane asylum is opened in Williamsburg,Virginia.
*Charles Messier discover the Whirlpool galaxy.
*Quebecois nationalists starting to riot at the Saint Lawrence river basin.
*The city of Antigua,Guatemala is destroyed in a earthquake.Spanish authorities move the capital to Guatemala City.
*Joseph II expel the jesuits from the HRE.
*Russian forces take Wllachia from the ottoman but fail to capture the bulgarian border town of Silistra.
*Hilaire Rouelle discovers urea.
*The Royal School of Naval Engineering is established in Istanbul.
*Yemelyan Pugachev start a rebellion among the cossacks against russian empress Catherine II.
*The Regulation act create the office of Governor General with an advisory council to rule over the territories cntrolled by the British East India compnay.
*The first museum in the Americas is openeed in Cahrleston,South Carolina.
*Captain James Cook cross the antarctic circle.
*The royal swedish opera is established and perform the first opera in swedish at the Bollhuset in Stockholm.
*The british parliament agree to the Tea act with the approval of the colonial representatives.However the quebecois view the act as a mean to pressure them further.
*Ottoman rebels kill Ali Bey,sultan of Cairo.
*Pope Clement XIv publish the Dominus ac Redemptor bill which surpress the Society of Jesus.
*Daniel Boone attemp to colonise Kentucky but his group was attacked by native americans and his son was killed.
*America's first insane asylum is opened in Williamsburg,Virginia.
*Charles Messier discover the Whirlpool galaxy.
*Quebecois nationalists starting to riot at the Saint Lawrence river basin.
*The city of Antigua,Guatemala is destroyed in a earthquake.Spanish authorities move the capital to Guatemala City.
*Joseph II expel the jesuits from the HRE.
*Russian forces take Wllachia from the ottoman but fail to capture the bulgarian border town of Silistra.
*Hilaire Rouelle discovers urea.
*The Royal School of Naval Engineering is established in Istanbul.
*Yemelyan Pugachev start a rebellion among the cossacks against russian empress Catherine II.
*The Regulation act create the office of Governor General with an advisory council to rule over the territories cntrolled by the British East India compnay.
Good god... where to begin...
Vote for the "english" parliament? Huh? Have boroughs been created in North America? What does that mean for the rotten boroughs still existing? "Descent" is also problematic, what if only a parent or grandparent is British/Irish? Aside from "descent" what other requirements are there to vote? Britain still had property restrictions at the time. About the "irish", why wouldn't they vote for members of the Irish Parliament which still existed at this time instead of the "english" one?
This makes sense, only because something like it actually happened.
This makes sense, again only because something like it actually happened.
Gaspee ran aground and was later boarded at night and burned by locals angered by her captain's zealous and competent enforcement of custom duties. The incident had not been planned in any real sense however.
When news of Gaspee's late afternoon grounding down the Bay reached Providence, the Brown brothers and other local magnates were able to form a raiding party, row several miles down the Bay to the vessel, and board her all before dawn.
While the removal of Gaspee or, more accurately, the cessation of her customs activities had been long desired, no one had been plotting to destroy the ship. Instead, the vessel's grounding merely provided the locals with an immediate opportunity to destroy it.
The suggestion that an armed party of Francophone and Catholic strangers could loiter long enough in New`England to identify a customs vessel and then attack and destroy the same is asinine. The idea that rebellious Quebecois would travel as far as New England to mount an attack on agents of the British Crown is also asinine.
Absolutely ASB. Aside from completely ignoring the many events which led up to emancipation in the Empire, the financially strapped Britain of this period wouldn't even be able to contemplate what was the major hurdle for emancipation; compensation to slave holders.
I'm not even going to bother with the rest. This "time line" is little more than a pretty map with little or no thinking behind it.
Vote for the "english" parliament? Huh? Have boroughs been created in North America? What does that mean for the rotten boroughs still existing? "Descent" is also problematic, what if only a parent or grandparent is British/Irish? Aside from "descent" what other requirements are there to vote? Britain still had property restrictions at the time. About the "irish", why wouldn't they vote for members of the Irish Parliament which still existed at this time instead of the "english" one?
This makes sense, only because something like it actually happened.
This makes sense, again only because something like it actually happened.
Gaspee ran aground and was later boarded at night and burned by locals angered by her captain's zealous and competent enforcement of custom duties. The incident had not been planned in any real sense however.
When news of Gaspee's late afternoon grounding down the Bay reached Providence, the Brown brothers and other local magnates were able to form a raiding party, row several miles down the Bay to the vessel, and board her all before dawn.
While the removal of Gaspee or, more accurately, the cessation of her customs activities had been long desired, no one had been plotting to destroy the ship. Instead, the vessel's grounding merely provided the locals with an immediate opportunity to destroy it.
The suggestion that an armed party of Francophone and Catholic strangers could loiter long enough in New`England to identify a customs vessel and then attack and destroy the same is asinine. The idea that rebellious Quebecois would travel as far as New England to mount an attack on agents of the British Crown is also asinine.
Absolutely ASB. Aside from completely ignoring the many events which led up to emancipation in the Empire, the financially strapped Britain of this period wouldn't even be able to contemplate what was the major hurdle for emancipation; compensation to slave holders.
I'm not even going to bother with the rest. This "time line" is little more than a pretty map with little or no thinking behind it.
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1774 AD:
*The Quebec rebelllion spreads to the entire province.
*The british sign a pact with the Polish-Lithuanian coomowealth.They include Prussia later that year on the condition that Prussia would not engage in hostillity against polish sovereignity.
*The Ottoman empire begin to recive help from the Poles.They are ablet to push the russians outh of their coastal area by the end of the year.
*The kingdom of Denmark-Norway proclaim Greenland to be a separate entity within the kingdonm.
*The Quebec rebelllion spreads to the entire province.
*The british sign a pact with the Polish-Lithuanian coomowealth.They include Prussia later that year on the condition that Prussia would not engage in hostillity against polish sovereignity.
*The Ottoman empire begin to recive help from the Poles.They are ablet to push the russians outh of their coastal area by the end of the year.
*The kingdom of Denmark-Norway proclaim Greenland to be a separate entity within the kingdonm.
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English (Sorry,i meant for british) and Irish descent means everyone with British or Irish blood and live in a mgority British territory (All territories expect QWuebec and the British East India company's territories).To suggest that people of Irish descent should vote for the Irish parlamient in unpractical.What will you do with a person with an Irish mother and an English or Welsh father for example? Also the rest up until 1774 was taken directly from wikipedia expect from the parts about Quebec.
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And it gets worse... Quebec wins a one-year revolution and gains Michigan... Poles aid Ottomans against Russians...
It's like watching a cancer metastasize.
Actually it is two year revolution.But i retcon that.The poles never fought against the russians,only send materiel to the ottoman troops.
Universal manhood suffrage with no gender/religious/property restrictions in the colonies but not in Britain? Sure whatever.
I thought so too, which is why I brought it up to point out how poorly thought out this alleged "time line" is.
Indeed. I even brought that up in my post when I wrote: "Descent" is also problematic, what if only a parent or grandparent is British/Irish?
Yes, I noted that the only parts which made sense were those copied from actual history. As for the rest, it's an absolute mess.
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The british had nforced british law by letting the colonials to vote for the english parliament.The regulations on the right to vote are the same as the UK.It is like Israel letting the palestinians to vote for the Knesset,it is obvious they would also enforce israeli law in the palestinian territories.A man with one British/Irish descent have British blood and therefore can vote unless he violate the regulations that were existed in the UK at the time.
Two years? That makes all the difference then.
I mean it only took the Thirteen Colonies with a population over ten times larger and an alliance with a European Great Power EIGHT YEARS to do the same and even then they didn't truly gain Michigan until 1815. Apparently Quebec should be able to accomplish all of that much faster because they put gravy on their pomme frites.
It should be child's play for a Quebec of about 100,000 souls - and not all of them French-descended - in only two years to beat Great Britain alone, subjugate Upper Canada and the Maritimes, and grab the Old Northwest, right? Because the British Colonies on Quebec's southern border aren't going to lift a finger when they see those western lands they fought The French & Indian War to claim and fought the OTL's Revolution to maintain fall into the hands of Quebec, aren't they?
That's simply cosmetic. It's like putting a band-aid on an amputation.
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Two years? That makes all the difference then.
I mean it only took the Thirteen Colonies with a population over ten times larger and an alliance with a European Great Power EIGHT YEARS to do the same and even then they didn't truly gain Michigan until 1815. Apparently Quebec should be able to accomplish all of that much faster because they put gravy on their pomme frites.
It should be child's play for a Quebec of about 100,000 souls - and not all of them French-descended - in only two years to beat Great Britain alone, subjugate Upper Canada and the Maritimes, and grab the Old Northwest, right? Because the British Colonies on Quebec's southern border aren't going to lift a finger when they see those western lands they fought The French & Indian War to claim and fought the OTL's Revolution to maintain fall into the hands of Quebec, aren't they?
That's simply cosmetic. It's like putting a band-aid on an amputation.
The quebecois does not need to gain Michigan.They already had it since the Quebec act.Also the settlers in the thirteen colonies saw themselves as english,so what? It didn't bother then when they revolted against their motherland in 1775.Especially beacuse they didn't have the right to vote for the british parliament and have control on their taxes.
Because they saw themselves as "english", they would fight against the Quebec revolution just as they did in the 1760s as good subjects of the Crown and, because they outnumber Quebec by over 10 to 1, they'd win just they did in the 1760s as good subjects of the Crown.
I'm done here. You've no idea what you're talking about and your time line is a complete mess.
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1775 AD:
*James Cook takes possession over the South Georgia for Britain.
*The British parliament declare Quebec in rebellion.
*Pope Pius Vi succed pope Clement XIV.
*A quebecois parliament gather in Montreal.
*The British troops attack the rebels Goose Bay.The rebels retreat while taking heavy casualties.
*The third quebecios parliament meets at Montreal.
*A group of rebels secure southern Quebec.
*The third quebecois parliament ban trade with the thirteen provinces and Rupert's land.
*British authorities offers pardon to every rebel who would lay down his arms.
*The British Bombs Quebec city and take over surrounding setllements.
*The quebecois rebels offer to surrounder in return for a universal suffrage.However,british authorities decilie the offer fearing massive french participation in the elections.
*A quebecoise army attack Fort Ticonderoga in New York but is defeated by the british.
* A hurricane sways a path of destruction from South Carolina to Nova Scotia killing thousands.
*British forces takes over montreal and put down the rebellion in the ST. Lawrence river.However the rebellion continues in the rest of Quebec.
*Attempt is made to kidnap George III in London.
*The fourth congress convened in the Niagara peninsula.They decare the creation of a qiebecois navy in order to harass the british supply lines in labrador and the ST. Lawrence river.
*The ottomans manage to free wallachia from the russians.
*James Cook takes possession over the South Georgia for Britain.
*The British parliament declare Quebec in rebellion.
*Pope Pius Vi succed pope Clement XIV.
*A quebecois parliament gather in Montreal.
*The British troops attack the rebels Goose Bay.The rebels retreat while taking heavy casualties.
*The third quebecios parliament meets at Montreal.
*A group of rebels secure southern Quebec.
*The third quebecois parliament ban trade with the thirteen provinces and Rupert's land.
*British authorities offers pardon to every rebel who would lay down his arms.
*The British Bombs Quebec city and take over surrounding setllements.
*The quebecois rebels offer to surrounder in return for a universal suffrage.However,british authorities decilie the offer fearing massive french participation in the elections.
*A quebecoise army attack Fort Ticonderoga in New York but is defeated by the british.
* A hurricane sways a path of destruction from South Carolina to Nova Scotia killing thousands.
*British forces takes over montreal and put down the rebellion in the ST. Lawrence river.However the rebellion continues in the rest of Quebec.
*Attempt is made to kidnap George III in London.
*The fourth congress convened in the Niagara peninsula.They decare the creation of a qiebecois navy in order to harass the british supply lines in labrador and the ST. Lawrence river.
*The ottomans manage to free wallachia from the russians.
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1776 AD:
*Edward Gibbon publish the first volume of The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.
*British forces attack La Sarre but are defeated by a large army on quebecois.
*Quebecois forces capture Montreal.
*The french government intervenes on behalf of the quebecois togheter with Austria and Spain.Fearing another theater in POland,the british agree to the independenc of Quebec on the condition that it will be kept separated from France.
*Adam Smith publish the Wealth of Nations.
*Juan Baptista De Anza found the Presidio in what will become the city of San Francisco.
*Jose Juaqin Moraga establish the Mission Dolores in the San Francisco presidio.
*Captain James Cook set sail from Plymouth on his third expedition.
*Motzart's Haffner Serenade is performed in Salzburg.
*Hurricane hits Guadalupe,killing more than 6000 people.
*Francisco Palou founds the Mission San Francisco de Asís.
*The Ottoman empire retake Moldavia.
*Edward Gibbon publish the first volume of The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire.
*British forces attack La Sarre but are defeated by a large army on quebecois.
*Quebecois forces capture Montreal.
*The french government intervenes on behalf of the quebecois togheter with Austria and Spain.Fearing another theater in POland,the british agree to the independenc of Quebec on the condition that it will be kept separated from France.
*Adam Smith publish the Wealth of Nations.
*Juan Baptista De Anza found the Presidio in what will become the city of San Francisco.
*Jose Juaqin Moraga establish the Mission Dolores in the San Francisco presidio.
*Captain James Cook set sail from Plymouth on his third expedition.
*Motzart's Haffner Serenade is performed in Salzburg.
*Hurricane hits Guadalupe,killing more than 6000 people.
*Francisco Palou founds the Mission San Francisco de Asís.
*The Ottoman empire retake Moldavia.
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1777 AD:
*Mission Santa Clara de Asís is founded in what would become Santa Clara,California.
*Quebecoise ambassador in Paris start secret negotiation with the french king for unification between Quebec and france.However the king reject the proposal oout of fear to anger the UK and it's allies and the possible demise of the French Colonial empire.
*The Fleurdelisé flag is accepted as the official flag of the republic of Quebec.
*The first village in Alto California,San Jose,is founded by the spanish.
*Morocco recognise Quebec's independence,the first nation out of Europe to do so.
*Kames Cook discover Christmas Island.
*The 2nd edition of the Encyclopædia Britannica is published.
*Kunsthochschule Kassel is founded.
*The ottomans liberate western Crimea.
*Mission Santa Clara de Asís is founded in what would become Santa Clara,California.
*Quebecoise ambassador in Paris start secret negotiation with the french king for unification between Quebec and france.However the king reject the proposal oout of fear to anger the UK and it's allies and the possible demise of the French Colonial empire.
*The Fleurdelisé flag is accepted as the official flag of the republic of Quebec.
*The first village in Alto California,San Jose,is founded by the spanish.
*Morocco recognise Quebec's independence,the first nation out of Europe to do so.
*Kames Cook discover Christmas Island.
*The 2nd edition of the Encyclopædia Britannica is published.
*Kunsthochschule Kassel is founded.
*The ottomans liberate western Crimea.
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1778 AD:
*James Cook discovers the Sandwich islands (Modern day Hawaii).He convince the chieftains of the various tribes to pledge alleigance to Britain and making Hawaii a british territory.
*Britain finally agree to open diplomatic relations with Quebec.
*A total solar eclipse takes place across parts of USA from Texas to Virginia.
*First ascendant to the Triglav's peak.
*The first treaty between Quebec and the Algonquin tribes is signed.
*Louisville,Virgina (OTL Louisville,Kentucky) is settled by 13 famillies under Colonel George Rogers Clark.
*The Phillips academy is founded in Andover,Massachusetts is founded by Samuel Phillips Jr.
*The term ''thoroughbred" is first used in the United States in an advertisement in a Kentucky gazette to describe a New Jersey stallion called Pilgarlick.
*The ottoman liberate eastern Crimea.
*James Cook discovers the Sandwich islands (Modern day Hawaii).He convince the chieftains of the various tribes to pledge alleigance to Britain and making Hawaii a british territory.
*Britain finally agree to open diplomatic relations with Quebec.
*A total solar eclipse takes place across parts of USA from Texas to Virginia.
*First ascendant to the Triglav's peak.
*The first treaty between Quebec and the Algonquin tribes is signed.
*Louisville,Virgina (OTL Louisville,Kentucky) is settled by 13 famillies under Colonel George Rogers Clark.
*The Phillips academy is founded in Andover,Massachusetts is founded by Samuel Phillips Jr.
*The term ''thoroughbred" is first used in the United States in an advertisement in a Kentucky gazette to describe a New Jersey stallion called Pilgarlick.
*The ottoman liberate eastern Crimea.
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1779 AD:
*The Ottoman empire complete the recapture of crimea.Asa deterrent to russia,they annex Wallachia and Moldavia directly into the empire.
*The focal point of the fighting between the Russian empire and the Ottomans shift to the Caucasus.Both em[ires conquer as muich as they could with the russian gain position in a better fortified area.
*Japan conquer the remaining Ainu lands.
*Poland exploit the russian weakness and annex their former territory.They also finally annex Courtland.
*Denmark expand their settlement in Greenland.
*Anti machinery riots begin in Great Britain.
*The Boers begin to claish with the Khosa and take some territory.
*The Ottoman empire complete the recapture of crimea.Asa deterrent to russia,they annex Wallachia and Moldavia directly into the empire.
*The focal point of the fighting between the Russian empire and the Ottomans shift to the Caucasus.Both em[ires conquer as muich as they could with the russian gain position in a better fortified area.
*Japan conquer the remaining Ainu lands.
*Poland exploit the russian weakness and annex their former territory.They also finally annex Courtland.
*Denmark expand their settlement in Greenland.
*Anti machinery riots begin in Great Britain.
*The Boers begin to claish with the Khosa and take some territory.
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1780 AD:
*The Gordon riots erupts in England over the Catholics's rights issue.
*Tupac Amaru begin a revolt in Peru.
*The steel nib pen is invented.
*The Russian empire finally sings a peace treaty with the Ottomans (Two years after they did in OTL).They partition the Caucasus between them.
*By this point'The russian colonise all of Siberia expect Kamchatka.
*The danes annex Hanover after a territorial dispute.
*The Gordon riots erupts in England over the Catholics's rights issue.
*Tupac Amaru begin a revolt in Peru.
*The steel nib pen is invented.
*The Russian empire finally sings a peace treaty with the Ottomans (Two years after they did in OTL).They partition the Caucasus between them.
*By this point'The russian colonise all of Siberia expect Kamchatka.
*The danes annex Hanover after a territorial dispute.