What would had happen if a mass civil war breaks in the 30's? POD is the Central powers won World war 1. (My money is on the Hungarians)
What would had happen if a mass civil war breaks in the 30's? POD is the Central powers won World war 1. (My money is on the Hungarians)
Why particularly?
The Magyars are barely a majority in Hungary (less than a majority if Croatia is included), and Hungary (even with Croatia) has in turn only a minority of the Empire's population. So they are a minority of a minority. What enables them to win?
Added on to the above point about population, Austria would presumably have the support of Germany in the civil war. Against that the Hungarians would really only be able receive meaningful aid from Russia and/or Italy. I don't see how they'd be able to win the war at all.
What would had happen if a mass civil war breaks in the 30's? POD is the Central powers won World war 1. (My money is on the Hungarians)
Germany most likely not enter the war. Berlin will not like it, but it is not they fight.
Hungary had a bigger population than Austria.
Hungary had a bigger population than Austria.
Germany most likely not enter the war. Berlin will not like it, but it is not they fight.
Why? Austrian are going to support all not Hungarian nation in Hungary like there is no tomorrow. And if Austrians are smart enough, they gave crown to Croats for support of Wiena, maybe something to Czechs (after WWI is lost to Entente, all hopes are lost so even something is better then nothing). Barely 60% of population were Hungarians in multi ethnic Hungarian kingdom. With a luck, Hungarians are screwed bit less then they were after Trianon. Lands with 3.5 mil Romanians will be promised to Romania, maybe Slovak principality will be created.(My money is on the Hungarians)
Really? In amount of Hungarians? Hungarians bit over 10 mil, Germans, bit over 12 mil. Hungarians had more oppressed or not to happy nationalities. Romanians, Slovaks, Croats, Ruthenians and much much less industry. What are they going to fight with? With weapons supplies from Romania? Basically all they neighbours are their enemies. Maybe Poles (if there is Poland) could be sympathetic, but, there are Slovaks and Ruthenians in between.Hungary had a bigger population than Austria.
Why? Austrian are going to support all not Hungarian nation in Hungary like there is no tomorrow. And if Austrians are smart enough, they gave crown to Croats for support of Wiena, maybe something to Czechs (after WWI is lost to Entente, all hopes are lost so even something is better then nothing). Barely 60% of population were Hungarians in multi ethnic Hungarian kingdom. With a luck, Hungarians are screwed bit less then they were after Trianon. Lands with 3.5 mil Romanians will be promised to Romania, maybe Slovak principality will be created.
What deal they can make to Croats or Czechs? Like hey Croats, you are independent kingdom now? As far as I know Croats were always leaning more to Wienna. And what they can offer to Czechs, epsepcially after crushed hopes that WWI will bring them more freedom? Even here Wienna holds more cards. Actually more Czechs soldiers fought for Wienna, and they fought well, then for Masaryk, Benes and Stefanik. Same goes for Slovaks. They are screwed. And industry? How they are going to support their war effort?Not if Hungary makes a deal to the Croats and Czechs first.
I read somewhere that the Habsburgs wanted to create a new Kingdom of Poland after the war. I don't know if they wanted it as an independent state or as a part of the Empire.
P.S: please, tell me if my english is not correct.
What deal they can make to Croats or Czechs? Like hey Croats, you are independent kingdom now? As far as I know Croats were always leaning more to Wienna. And what they can offer to Czechs, epsepcially after crushed hopes that WWI will bring them more freedom? Even here Wienna holds more cards. Actually more Czechs soldiers fought for Wienna, and they fought well, then for Masaryk, Benes and Stefanik. Same goes for Slovaks. They are screwed. And industry? How they are going to support their war effort?
I read somewhere that the Habsburgs wanted to create a new Kingdom of Poland after the war. I don't know if they wanted it as an independent state or as a part of the Empire.
P.S: please, tell me if my english is not correct.
Hungary have to have some allies. I sure they find some one.
Something like that. And actually, just a small pick from history. Romanians, Croats and Slovaks as Germany allies during WWII almost formed Second Litle Entente agianst Hungarians. Only Berlin strong opposition stopped it. Some cool example of Croats love for Hungary.No, they had nothing but enemies; no one liked the Magyars at this time, not even their supposed ethnic allies the Croats. This was because of the extreme behavior of the ruling class toward all other ethnic groups.