AH Challenge: Let's make a realistic Code Geass timeline!

[MarshalBraginsky]

But what about the Cold War?

There could be a Cold War, although the Proxy Wars may get worse. Geass TL has its own Cold War, between Russia and Australia with Japan in the middle. Timeline Ivangorod has no Cold War, although it has its own Gryps Conflict, which would make Vietnam look like Afghanistan.

 

[DarklightZERO]

Who looks like interest in this thread has died. Its been a long run.

...

Well perhaps I should look to wrapping my timeline up.
*sigh*

How about I just wave my hands and just say:



1866 AD (1920 a.t.b): The Austro-Prussian war ends in a stalemate, the aftermath of this war leads to the formation of the Southern German Empire while the minor North Germain States merge with Prussia. The Southern German Empire becomes the largest Nation in the EU.

1912 AD (1968 a.t.b): Britannia while known as "the industrial warmongering nation on the other side of the Atlantic" suffers an Economic meltdown as the market becomes over-saturated. Britannia was unable to broaden its market due to lake of investment into workers wages and the frosty relations with the other powers that limited trade. Plans were drawn up to trigger a war in order to stimulate the arms industry.

1914 AD (1964 a.t.b): Britannian secret plans are carried out. Britannia secretly Allys with Prussia in order to exploit the rivalry between the Prussia-Southern Germany. Italy is also brought into the fold due to the Southern Germain empire's death grip on Venice. Britannia declares war on the nations of South America. Seeking to annex the continent. Soon after this decoration Britannian troops swarm over the border of Area 3 (formally Mexico) after months of fighting the Brazilian republic ask the Empire of the Netherlands for aid against the Britannians. The Netherlands accept however after the war Brazil becomes a protectorate in all but name. Soon after South German Emperor was gunned down by an attack by what was though as Hungarian terrorist however they turned out to be a Britannian Black ops team. While the SG empire was couping with the death of its emperor and the resurgence of the cries of independence Prussia along with Italy declared war on the SGE. Kingdom of Scandinavia honoured its treaty with the SGE and declare war on Prussia and Italy. Seeing that Scandinavia's navy end up threatening its allies Britannia declared war of Scandinavia. Seeing the threat of Britannian expressionism the British Empire declared war on Britannia. France only joined in later on the side of the SGE after the war spilled over its borders.

1920AD (1972 atb): The war, which was dubbed the great war ended. The South German empire was in ruins, and all sides suffered the human cost. However after long negotiation the EU was set up, an administrative body that would unite all of Europe and organize the mending of the war wounds. However Britannia didn't rest easy, during the late 19th and the early 20th socialism rose. However due to the number of Britanian dead, the class system that made sure that no one could rise above the station they were born into and the lowering living standards gave birth to what some considered a political monster, Communism. In July 1972 atb the Underground Britannian National Socialist party rose up and attempted to other-throw the Monarchy to establish a state where "everything is owned by the People." However the rebellion was crushed under a string of unfortunate circumstances that people still believe to this say weren't coincidental. The truth is only known to the higher members of the Monarchy, as the rebellion spread the Emperor was approached by a mysterious person who claimed that he could rise the Empire of its troubles in return for the formation of the 'Geass order.'


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Well I am going to bed I will finish this up later.

 

[MarshalBraginsky]

Good so far. I've already published my second edition of the Geass TL that I am about to do.

 

[MarshalBraginsky]

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6011126/1/Libertation_of_Japan

This is the fanfic that I've read before and the one you're talking about Sibirskaya right?? So you're Raxius there?? Hehehe..

I'm not Raxius. I'm actually Radomir's Renegades, the guy who wrote Command and Conquer: Code Geass Alert, and I'm also working on a separate TL that was originally introduced by a former AH.com member who now had a counterfactual account.

 

[Libertad]

Still got interest in making a CG timeline? I still have it, and I think I'm going to start this again. However; I also have other projects right now:

- The most plausible Ameriwank TL
- The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth Strangerverse
- Part of a Hetalia RP as the Netherlands
- Alternate Star Wars history

Plus being busy in real life. So let's see. But for my CG TL: It's still quite Ameriwank but now with touches of other anime/ literary work/science fiction.

Hehehe.

 

[MarshalBraginsky]

As for me, I may have to redo my Russiawank again, only this time with an added Hungarywank and a Golden Horde wank in one while Poland-Lithuania-Ukrainewank would also be in the works, and I'm changing the colonial master for the Philippines from Russia to an independent Turkic Karluk Empire, or an Ottoman Empire in SE Asia with Malacca as the center of political power. Think of this as having the Ottoman Empire in all Maphilindo states.

 

[Libertad]

As for me, I may have to redo my Russiawank again, only this time with an added Hungarywank and a Golden Horde wank in one while Poland-Lithuania-Ukrainewank would also be in the works, and I'm changing the colonial master for the Philippines from Russia to an independent Turkic Karluk Empire, or an Ottoman Empire in SE Asia with Malacca as the center of political power. Think of this as having the Ottoman Empire in all Maphilindo states.

Hahaha. That's interesting. The Ottomans had some influence over Aceh here in OTL. And also, did you saw the links towards the Ameriwank maps that you're looking for?? I never thought you're going to be there really.

Plus: It's also not only the CG Ameriwank thing that I'm busy of. There's also the plausible CG timeline that we've kinda abandoned that we still didn't finished yet. And I also needed that TL for my merging thing with the CG Ameriwank TL.

 

[MarshalBraginsky]

Yes, I did see the Ameriwank maps though. For my revised TL however, there would be several wanks happening besides the Russiawank and Britanniawank. There would be a minor Byzantinewank, Rutheniawank (Poland, Lithuania and Ruthenia), Turkwank in SE Asia, and a Persiawank. Although I have to work on it in paper.

 

[DarklightZERO]

I got a PM from Libertad that he wants to do this again.
THere are a few ideas I wanted to put down in my TL, perhaps I should to series first?

Well have you got any thing to add or have you tricked me into gravedigging Libertad?

 

[MarshalBraginsky]

Well, I came up with several ideas for a wank, including the DO NOT POST version of Flight of the Eagle. You can go through my profile to do so. Another idea that I had with Russiawank involve having the Magyars and Tatars live in Russia, while the Byzantines continue to live and the Ottomans establish themselves in SE Asia. Finally, I was talking to another author about a possible two in one wanks: Russia and Serbia wank. And you're aware that Hetalia is no longer with us, right?

 

[DarklightZERO]

Well, I came up with several ideas for a wank, including the DO NOT POST version of Flight of the Eagle. You can go through my profile to do so. Another idea that I had with Russiawank involve having the Magyars and Tatars live in Russia, while the Byzantines continue to live and the Ottomans establish themselves in SE Asia. Finally, I was talking to another author about a possible two in one wanks: Russia and Serbia wank. And you're aware that Hetalia is no longer with us, right?

Didn't you say that you decided to withhold the work until you watched the GC spin off?

and I didn't know about Hetalia.

 

[MarshalBraginsky]

Didn't you say that you decided to withhold the work until you watched the GC spin off?

and I didn't know about Hetalia.

True, but I'm still working on the TL. Of course, the fic itself won't start until next year, so I still have enough time to work on my timeline unless of course, I end up having a full time job and writing fanfics would be impossible for me.

 

[Libertad]

I got a PM from Libertad that he wants to do this again.
THere are a few ideas I wanted to put down in my TL, perhaps I should to series first?

Well have you got any thing to add or have you tricked me into gravedigging Libertad?

No no no. Let's do this again. I'm actually planning to launch The United States of Geass, ASBs and SuperSteroids TL anytime soon and I need to make that semi-cannon Code Geass TL which is still unfinished.

And I just want to at least help you out in your ideas too. Hehehe.

 

[MarshalBraginsky]

I had a chat with another author who seems to be an expert on Serbian history and came up with an idea of a Serbo-Russian Empire that stretches from the Adriatic to the Bering Sea, though it could also involve a pseudo Korea wank as well, and the Ottomans may be butterflied and have the Mamluk Caliphate replace them.

 

[Libertad]

Mr. DarklightZERO, what will happen to your TL?

Mr. Sibirskaya too, let's start continuing to make the semi-cannon Code Geass TL.

I have an idea for the Chinese Federation. The Chinese Empire must not become isolationistic as well as Japan so we could produce a China wank that will got into Indo-China, parts of Southeast Asia and also to Central Asia and India.

I also intend for the Byzantine Empire, the Dutch Empire, Russian Empire and the French Empire to represent the "Four Tigers of the European Universe".

And the Holy Britannian Empire? It only became "powerful" of sorts because the Four Tigers allowed it. European businesses control Britannian natural resources and secretly influence Britannian politics since the Great Depression to contain the influence of liberation movements in the colonized world as well as to stop the rise of Communist movements in independent South America. It's part of the plan to maintain European hegemony, and practically, the hegemony of the "European races".

So it's only a facade that Britannia is powerful, when in fact, it is simply a semi-protectorate of Brussels.

Greek and Latin are the language of international politics and commerce, due to earlier Byzantine influence. French and Dutch came a close second, due to the French Revolution and the influence of Dutch economy. Stuff like that.

 

[MarshalBraginsky]

All right, but for the Russian Empire, they might as well become independent from the European powers due to past distrust. Although I wonder if in this case the Ukrainians would be separate from Russia. I want to make sure the Philippines isn't part of the Chinese Federation, and that it could be either independent or a part of Russia/USSR. I have some ideas for the new Code Geass TL, which originally has the Huns establishing themselves in the Eastern Roman Empire until 600s when the Magyars create their empire and gets split by the Khazars (not to be mistaken for Hazara, which both mean 1,000). Volga Hungary takes place of Volga Bulgaria while Pannonian Hungary is absorbed by Romania/Wallachia and creates an independent Transylvanian Kingdom. I also had a chat with another author about a Serb-Russian-Mongol wank as well, though this would be severely limited in scope. I was thinking that the Philippines could go Nestorian Christian while the Persians or Mughals could lay claim on it before they become independent as the state of Pardistan. (land of paradise in Persian) CG Philippines in this case would be Persianized to the very core, though it could also be a part of a Turkic SE Asian Empire, with the alt Ottomans even annexing Japan and inserting Muslim influences there.

On the other hand, those ideas that I had, I wanted to get Russia to have Oriental influences (through the Mongols), Byzantine influences (through Byzantium) and partial Britannian influence (maybe an exodus of anti-Tudor Britannians settling in Russia and in turn, the Russians could establish Occidental Orthodoxy in the British Isles since they'd still be pagans before the Russians establish links with them.) So in essence, we could have a Eurasian Orthodox bloc consisting of the Byzantine and Russian Empires with chunks of Mongolia, Uyghurstan and maybe Anatolia while the alt-Ottoman Turks would be in SE Asia. Alternatively, alt-Philippines could be Muslim through the Mughals.

 

[MarshalBraginsky]

So Libertad, I've posted some of my ideas so far. What about you? Early Rus' could be a union of the Rus' Khaganate and an alt-Volga Magyar state, combined with a Kipchak-Cuman presence and by the time the Mongols arrive, they'll contribute to the early formation of the Russian state, though Ruthenia would be referred to the Rus' lands ruled by Yaropolk and his descendants while Orossynia (the Mongol name for Russia) would be ruled by Vladimir and his descendants. Originally, it'd be Britannia and Russia against Papal dominated Europe with Ruthenia as the Uniate state, but they'd turn against each other down the road.

Also, here's the link for my discussion thread of the Russiawank CG timeline: https://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=225822

 

[Libertad]

All right, but for the Russian Empire, they might as well become independent from the European powers due to past distrust.

This is for the semi-cannon TL. I don't care what you want for your TL, but that's where I will help too.

The semi-cannon TL is just more on a "realistic version of the ASBish cannon TL". So we want to make things realistic.

Although I wonder if in this case the Ukrainians would be separate from Russia. I want to make sure the Philippines isn't part of the Chinese Federation, and that it could be either independent or a part of Russia/USSR.

That's for your TL. Where did your TL will separate from the semi-cannon TL again? In what year? It's around the time of the Mongols right?

I have some ideas for the new Code Geass TL, which originally has the Huns establishing themselves in the Eastern Roman Empire until 600s when the Magyars create their empire and gets split by the Khazars (not to be mistaken for Hazara, which both mean 1,000). Volga Hungary takes place of Volga Bulgaria while Pannonian Hungary is absorbed by Romania/Wallachia and creates an independent Transylvanian Kingdom. I also had a chat with another author about a Serb-Russian-Mongol wank as well, though this would be severely limited in scope. I was thinking that the Philippines could go Nestorian Christian while the Persians or Mughals could lay claim on it before they become independent as the state of Pardistan. (land of paradise in Persian) CG Philippines in this case would be Persianized to the very core, though it could also be a part of a Turkic SE Asian Empire, with the alt Ottomans even annexing Japan and inserting Muslim influences there.

If you will make the Ottomans annex Japan? What will happen to the scenario of Lulu in Japan fighting against the Britannians? Or I guess, this is for your own TL.

And I like the ideas. They could be put into the semi-cannon TL too, except for the Ottoman Japan thing. We need to keep a sakuradite rich mercantilistic greedy Japanese Empire around for Britannia to invade (for Brussels secretly).

On the other hand, those ideas that I had, I wanted to get Russia to have
Oriental influences (through the Mongols), Byzantine influences (through Byzantium) and partial Britannian influence (maybe an exodus of anti-Tudor Britannians settling in Russia and in turn, the Russians could establish Occidental Orthodoxy in the British Isles since they'd still be pagans before the Russians establish links with them.) So in essence, we could have a Eurasian Orthodox bloc consisting of the Byzantine and Russian Empires with chunks of Mongolia, Uyghurstan and maybe Anatolia while the alt-Ottoman Turks would be in SE Asia. Alternatively, alt-Philippines could be Muslim through the Mughals.

Britannian Orthodox people? They would be severely persecuted by the Anglican government there. We need to give them an AMERICAN COLONY!

Wait. There is an existing Byzantine Empire and yet there are Ottomans too?? But in Southeast Asia??

Interesting. Interesting.

 

[Libertad]

So Libertad, I've posted some of my ideas so far. What about you? Early Rus' could be a union of the Rus' Khaganate and an alt-Volga Magyar state, combined with a Kipchak-Cuman presence and by the time the Mongols arrive, they'll contribute to the early formation of the Russian state, though Ruthenia would be referred to the Rus' lands ruled by Yaropolk and his descendants while Orossynia (the Mongol name for Russia) would be ruled by Vladimir and his descendants. Originally, it'd be Britannia and Russia against Papal dominated Europe with Ruthenia as the Uniate state, but they'd turn against each other down the road.

Also, here's the link for my discussion thread of the Russiawank CG timeline: https://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=225822

My ideas for my own TL?? I'm looking for your ideas and I think they could adopted to mine, as well as to the semi-cannon TL.

Reading your TL again.

 

[MarshalBraginsky]

This is for the semi-cannon TL. I don't care what you want for your TL, but that's where I will help too.

The semi-cannon TL is just more on a "realistic version of the ASBish cannon TL". So we want to make things realistic.




That's for your TL. Where did your TL will separate from the semi-cannon TL again? In what year? It's around the time of the Mongols right?



If you will make the Ottomans annex Japan? What will happen to the scenario of Lulu in Japan fighting against the Britannians? Or I guess, this is for your own TL.

And I like the ideas. They could be put into the semi-cannon TL too, except for the Ottoman Japan thing. We need to keep a sakuradite rich mercantilistic greedy Japanese Empire around for Britannia to invade (for Brussels secretly).



Britannian Orthodox people? They would be severely persecuted by the Anglican government there. We need to give them an AMERICAN COLONY!

Wait. There is an existing Byzantine Empire and yet there are Ottomans too?? But in Southeast Asia??

Interesting. Interesting.

I'm not going to use Isaac's Empire for the basis of TTL though, so the semi cannon TL branch off would have to be somewhere in the late 400s AD, since you could experiment with what's going on with Rome at that time. For your second concerns, only Shikoku and Kyushu will be be a de facto Ottoman protectorate, though they'll have Muslim daimyos in the Satsuma vilayet. A good part of Honshu would remain Japanese but northern Honshu and Hokkaido would be Orthodox Christian (influenced by Russia) Down the road, you could have an independent Japan as a satellite state of alt-Russia.

Another possibly semi branch off would be in 1237, at the height of the Mongol invasion of Russia. Or somewhere in 980 when Yaropolk and Vladimir would fight a bitter civil war over who gets to rule Kievan Rus'. THere may be Byzantines around, but they'll be in danger from a rerouted Bulgar state in Anatolia while the alt-Ottomans come to SE Asia through the Seljukid conquest of the Malacca Sultanate and Sri Vijaya. It is also possible that the Philippines ITTL would have a lot of Turkic, Indian and Persian influences as expect a lot of settlers to come there from Persia, Afghanistan, Anatolia, and maybe Korea. (Korean influence there would help counterbalance Islamic influence there)

The Britannian Orthodox Christians would receive the British Isles in 1820 once the Britannian aristocracy goes to the New World, and expect a devastating secret within the Britannian Royal Family: Henry IX, son of Elizabeth I, has a twin brother named Charles. The twins also go by Vasily Ivanovich Tudor and Sergei Ivanovich Tudor, since their secret father would be Ivan the Terrible. I know this is ASB, but we're making a partially ASB timeline.