A Better Rifle at Halloween
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Thank you for the update, yes all of that makes sense. I have brought forward the anarchist violence of the 1920s. The situation is not yet ripe for a civil war or even a revolution but there is a lot of scope for things to get worse. I don’t know where I will end up with this story but I guess I have a bit of an idea, I thought when I started that it would be with the Camerons and London Scottish winning the first battle of messines. Shows how little I know.
Well sort of it comes from the counter elites, or those who feel they should be in charge but were not.
Ben Tillman could be a problem for Wilson if he feels Wilson isn’t taking the threats of socialist uprising sufficiently seriously
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I think it is perfectly okay to bring forward the violence. Lawrence and Patterson were fairly agitated. Seattle was agitated. Increased social violence, and situations of "tension" are achievable in many societies. I'm not reacting to your "heightened conflict" situation. I'm reacting to people who think that the heightened conflict means that the US working class can "win," or "lose," to a new Red elite. 
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.Thanks, American politics in the period from reconstruction to the First World War is extraordinary, the casual violence that occurred across the entire country is something of which I was rather ignorant till I started writing this. It certainly was not covered in the US history I did at school and I suspect I am not the only one with that deficiency.I think it is perfectly okay to bring forward the violence. Lawrence and Patterson were fairly agitated. Seattle was agitated. Increased social violence, and situations of "tension" are achievable in many societies. I'm not reacting to your "heightened conflict" situation. I'm reacting to people who think that the heightened conflict means that the US working class can "win," or "lose," to a new Red elite.
What it means that it is the well-educated upper-classes who lead revolutions, not the oppressed.
It can be the upper classes or as in the soviet case the intelligentsia, but yes the worker toiling in the tuna can factory is unlikely to rise up to lead the revolution. As far as a revolution in 1914 is concerned the wobblies don't have the support yet, and the rural populists have fallen on hard times politically. At this stage what we have is the potential for much more violence, there is also a risk of the rise of a strongman, promising a way out of the violence.
Armored car/trucks work good for colonial policing. Half tracks would work even better and might not mount a bigger gun, but something like a 37mm to 47/50mm gun would be good for direct fire and a larger caliber howitzer ( say something in the 75 to 90mm range) for indirect fire. Remember the Stokes mortar hasn't been invented yet but could see something along those lines for man pack support.
Anything that can carry a Maxim pompom can stand in for a mortar if it's within reach of reasonable ground.
Then maybe someone sticks a mountain gun/howitzer in or on a truck to fire over intervening obstacles so they can stay behind cover while doing so.
If the Guinness company can knock these up DURING the Easter Rising then the various armies of 1914 will have no trouble coming up with proper armoured lorries fairly quickly
Daimler-Guinness Armoured Lorries - Tank Encyclopedia
The Daimler-Guinness made in Inchicore was the first APC ever to see combat. Made from Guinness lorries during the Republican Rebellion in Dublin, 1916.
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what do you expect. we mispronounce every french Canadian last name at least here in New England we do
That’s cool, I like it.If the Guinness company can knock these up DURING the Easter Rising then the various armies of 1914 will have no trouble coming up with proper armoured lorries fairly quickly
Daimler-Guinness Armoured Lorries - Tank Encyclopedia
The Daimler-Guinness made in Inchicore was the first APC ever to see combat. Made from Guinness lorries during the Republican Rebellion in Dublin, 1916.
Yes, they were actually already in developement with the Belgians taking an early role. But with the war in the west still fluid and the war I. The east even more so you will get more wheeled armour, not sure about half tracks, have never viewed them as anything other that’s a German/American thing but I will do the homework. But the mobility advantages of tracks will be recognised. There will also be colonial wars where armoured cars are all important.
Adolphe Kegresse was French working in Russia and building halftracks since 1906.
His track system he developed.
Model T Ford half tracks were sold in 1917 but you might have a Canadian or two see what Kegresse was doing in Russia and come up with something of his own earlier.