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Monarchs
1952-????: Elizabeth II

Prime Ministers

1964-1972: Harold Wilson LAB
1964 MAJ 1966 MAJ 1970 MIN
Legalised abortion - Banned capital punishment - Decriminalised homosexuality - Northern Rhodesian independence - Expulsion of Chagossians - Open University - Beginning of Northern Irish crisis - Decimalization - Devaluation of pound

1972-1972: Iain MacLeod CON
1972 MAJ
Died suddenly

1972-1977: Jim Prior CON
1973 MAJ
Union Responsibility Bill - Three-Day Week - UK entry to EEC - Bangor Agreement - Devolution to Scotland and Wales - Banff Resolution - National Curriculum - Angola crisis

1977-1985: Barbara Castle LAB
1977 MAJ 1979 MAJ 1983 MAJ
Committed troops to Angola - Spring of Strikes - Anti-Apartheid sanctions - Housing reform - EEC referendum and withdrawal - Cambridge Consensus - Local Governance Act - National Economic Bureau - Kowloon Walled City crisis - Holyhead bombing - Equality of Opportunity Act

1985-1987: Roy Hattersley LAB
Bow Shock - Afghan Insurgency - Monopoly Commission - Black Wednesday - Second Bangor Agreement
1987-????: Malcolm Rifkind CON
1987 MAJ
TBD
 
Okay, here's A Forward View, revised, with footnotes and a few tweaks:

Forward View-Revised

Donald Trump/Mike Pence (Republican) 2017[1]
2016: def. Hillary Clinton/Tim Kaine (Democratic), Gary Johnson/William Weld(Libertarian), Jill Stein/Ajamu Baraka(Green)...
Mike Pence/Vacant (Republican) 2017-2018[2]
Mike Pence/Pat Toomey (Republican) 2018-2021[2a]
Kirsten Gillibrand/Jeff Merkley (Democratic) 2021-2028[3]
2020: def. Mike Pence/Pat Toomey (Republican), Gary Johnson/Evan McMullin (Libertarian)[3a], Jill Stein/Susan Sarandon (Green)...[3b]
2024: def. Ted Cruz/Pat Toomey(Republican)[3c], Evan McMullin/Amanda Carpenter(Conservative Alternative)[3d], Susan Sarandon/Rosa Clemente(Green)...
Kamala Harris/Julian Castro (Democratic) 2029-2033[4]
2028: def. Ben Sasse/Todd Young (Republican)[4a], Darrell Castle/Adam Baldwin(Constitution)[4b], Rosa Clemente/Nina Turner (Green)...[4c]
Marco Rubio/Dean Heller (Republican) 2033-2041[5]
2032: def. Kamala Harris/Julian Castro (Democratic), Raul Labrador/Justin Amash (Libertarian), Ajamu Baraka/Nina Turner (Green)...[5a]
2036: def. P.G. Sittenfeld/Keith Ellison(Democratic), Justine Tunney/Jim Justice (Libertarian)[5b], Ajamu Baraka/Nina Turner (Green)...


[1]Referred to as the "Chickensh*t" President in popular culture-widely reviled by Democrats, and also by some independents, for having run a campaign fuelled by racism, misogyny and other forms of prejudice, and some doubt remains to this day as to whether or not he even won entirely fairly. Just prior to his leaving, Trump suspended America's membership in NATO, despite the protests of a large number of people on both sides of the aisle; he had also started a damaging trade war with China which caused substantial problems with the global economy.

[2]The most notoriously "lame duck" President since Jimmy Carter, and rather less liked personally. During his term, the U.S. economy slipped into a fairly significant recession, and a failed Russian attempt to subvert the Baltics resulted in the global humiliation of Vladimir Putin, which caused him to relinquish the Presidency of the Russian Federation to Dmitri Medvedev in 2018(Putin would still serve as Prime Minister for a time, as he had from 2008-12). Two final significant ISIL terrorist attacks did little to salvage Pence's popularity, or that of the GOP in general, and, in 2018, the Democrats were able to acquire 51 seats in the Senate, including with a surprise victory in Texas by Julian Castro over Ted Cruz(although losing Joe Manchin in W.V. to a Republican). He ran again in 2020, but with hate crimes on the minds of many worried Americans, as well as growing displeasure over bad Republican policies, he ended up losing to well liked mainstream Democrat Kirsten Gillibrand in a 350+ EV rout, despite voter suppression efforts still being widespread. The Democrats received a total of 62 seats in the Senate, as well as a 15 seat majority in the House.

[2a]After the Democrats and several moderate Republicans filibustered Pence's initial choices of former NC governor Pat McCrory and Georgia Senator David Perdue, Pat Toomey was narrowly accepted as the VP choice in April of 2018-this, however, played to the Democrats' advantage, as they were able to snag the seat in a narrow win.

[3]Senator Gillibrand made a name for herself by becoming a public defender of civil rights, and vowed to combat hatred of all forms; that, and her selection of the highly respected Oregon Senator Jeff Merkley to be her Vice-President ensured that the Democrats would be highly rewarded for their efforts. One of the first things done was to fill the two vacancies left by the departures of Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer, in December 2019 and September 2020 respectively(Scalia's seat was filled by a conservative in 2017, albeit a relatively moderate one that neither Donald Trump, Mike Pence, or the Tea Party Republicans had really wanted; this was primarily thanks to Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, and a certain few other Republicans who would not support any extreme hardliners, necessitating a compromise). Also, during her first two years in office, a federal law which forced states to tweak all voter ID laws was signed into law, and actions were also taken to reinforce the Voting Rights Act, as well. Mainly because the economy had recovered so well, and the fact that Ted Cruz was almost as terrible of a candidate as Donald Trump, Gillibrand eventually won just over 400 EVs, including even narrow wins in Texas and Georgia(both states had to go through a recount, but the results were verified in fairly good order).
Domestic terrorism became a major problem during her time, and there was a major spat of generalized political violence that occurred after she won her second term: 1,800 people were killed over the next two weeks after the election, and martial law had to be declared in several states and metro areas. Nevertheless, American society held together, and President Gillibrand's approval rating topped 66% on New Year's Day, 2025.
The most significant geopolitical event of the decade may have been the attempted coup in Russia in October, 2024, that was carried out in an attempt to prevent the Just Russia candidate, Sergei Mironov, who won with 55% of the vote in the final round (Medvedev, although he successfully distanced himself from Putin's actions during that man's third term, had declined to run again) from gaining office; it failed, but not before hundreds of civilians died in the cross fire. The reunification of the two Koreas in 2025, however, was a close second, with President Gillibrand's own efforts to broker peace highly lauded by the international community.
By the time she retired, President Gillibrand had a respectable 57% approval rating, and Calif. Senator Kamala Harris was able to ride her coattails to win a respectable 360 EV majority over Nebraska Senator Ben Sasse, helped greatly by a third party spoiler effort.

[3a]Johnson and McMullin teamed up for a fusion ticket this year, managing to win 5 million votes; Utah, Wyoming, Montana and Idaho were all far closer than they were expected to be.

[3b]Actress Susan Sarandon being on the Green ticket proved to be a boon for the Green Party.

[3c]Many Republicans still ask why former VP Toomey agreed to be on the ticket in 2024.

[3d]Ted Cruz trying to out-do Trump in 2024 turned out to be a bad move-8 million people voted for McMullin and former Ted Cruz surrogate Amanda Carpenter, and for a brief time afterwards, the Conservative Alternative Party would become a threat to the GOP in several areas, especially in the Mountain West(though they also hurt the Libertarians as well)

[4]Harris was well liked, but sadly, any realistic hope she might have had of winning a second term were cut short by a major worldwide recession in 2030, and the U.S. was hit particularly hard. Harris narrowly lost to former Florida Senator Marco Rubio in 2032, when he managed to narrowly win Minnesota, Pennsylvania, and Michigan in a surprise upset, gaining just over 280 EVs.

[4a]Sasse would have lost even without third party spoilers(the Constitution Party won 4.86 million votes), as he honestly just couldn't hold together a good campaign.

[4b]Yes, that Adam Baldwin, failed actor of Firefly fame.

[4c]Clemente won 4 million votes-just enough to keep Texas in the GOP column again.

[5]Marco Rubio's political philosophy had genuinely shifted since the election of Trump 16 years earlier: he had since abandoned much of the old orthodoxy on social issues, taking a far more libertarian stance, and also mellowing out on economic issues as well. Under his leadership as Chairman of the Republican Party between 2027-32(the first two of those years he spent as Senator, prior to retirement), the GOP had also purged many of the remaining Trumpist elements of the party, allowing them to do a fair bit of effective rebranding, especially with a new crop of more moderate late Gen X and Millennial politicians taking over, particularly in New England, the Rust Belt, and out West; the Republicans were able to get 54 seats in the Senate(whereas they only had 49 after 2030), and a 35 seat majority in the House. During his first term, President Rubio and moderate Republicans worked with Democrats to do the best they could to alleviate the recession, and he also approved additional funding to ATF and FBI so they could improve on their efforts to smoke out the remnants of "Alt-Right" terrorist activity in the country, particularly after an assassination attempt on popular Utah governor Evan McMullin in 2033, and another against former New York governor Zephyr Teachout in 2035.

In the 2036 elections, Rubio ran against the Democratic ticket of Ohio governor P.G. Sittenfeld and Tulsi Gabbard, and won 308 EVs, by again narrowly winning Pennsylvania, Minnesota and Michigan, thanks to swing voters; the GOP also kept a Senate majority of 51, and an 18 seat majority in the House. (Sittenfeld, though likable, was genuinely having difficulty running a good campaign)
Nothing much of note actually happened in Rubio's second term, but concerns did arise about a final surge of the far right in Eastern Europe, as the global recession of 2030 had been particularly destructive to many of these countries(to the point that Hungary and Poland actually left the E.U.), as well as in Central Asia. As of 2040, America and Russia are both keeping a watchful eye on these areas but nobody knows if or when things will go south from there.

The 2040 Presidential Election will be held be on November 6th of that year, and will be held between Republicans George P. Bush, former governor of Texas, and former Alaska Congressman Track Palin, versus Kyrsten Sinema, the left-populist former Senator and Congressperson from, and governor of Arizona, with Hollywood actress Jennifer Lawrence, who has served as a California congresswoman since 2036, as her running mate. Libertarian ex-Republican Justin Amash and Green Party candidate Rosa Clemente are also in the running.

[5a]2016's Green Party VP guy made a comeback, though Mr. Baraka had admittedly dropped some of his nuttier views from years past-some Democrats believe he may have cost them Michigan, but this seems a bit doubtful to most observers, as he only got 40,000 votes in the state, and Rubio won by 70,000.

[5b]Justine Tunney was a libertarian who claimed to be the original creator of Occupy Wall Street-nobody really listened to her for the most part, but she still won 4 million votes anyway, including a surprising 150,000 in W. Va., thanks to having former governor Jim Justice as her running mate.
 
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I apologize for this, I was gone for a while and might have gone crazy

United States of America
Presidents
2017-2019: Donald Trump / Mike Pence
January 19, 2019 - June 14, 2019: Mike Pence / Vacant [1]
June 14, 2019 - December 19, 2020: Donald Trump / Vacant [2]

Great Leader
December 19, 2020-2022: Donald Trump [3]
Def. Cory Booker / Kamala Harris

2022-2023: Steve Bannon, Jared Kushner, David Clarke [4]

2023-2026: Jared Kushner [5]

[1] Donald Trump is injured in an assassination attempt, miraculously surviving a bullet wound to the head which only grazed his brain. While he is in a coma and then recovering for a few months his Vice President Mike Pence executes the duties of the POTUS.
[2] Donald Trump returned to the Presidency more erratic than ever, claiming that Pence and the Republican Party tried to have him killed. Pence mysteriously disappears within the next few weeks. The New York Times tries to point the finger at the President, but their building is raided and their senior staff arrested on charges of treason. Homeland Security Director David Clarke declares that the entire New York Times staff were secret jihadist agents sent to undermine America.
[3] On 12/19/20, the United States Congress is blown up in an apparent ISIS bombing. While DC lays in ruins, Trump survives at his New York address in Trump Tower and since there is no President of the Senate he declares that he counted the votes and the Electoral College has made him President once more. Riots occur across the nation and the National Guard and Police Unions are called in to quell the violence. This leads to the secession of New England and California, and the attempted secession of several other states and Trump eventually moves from Trump Tower to NORAD for greater security following a particularly nasty New York City riot.
[4] Trump dies quietly in his sleep in an apparent assassination. The remnants of his cabinet are quick to term it a “Liberal-ISIS plot” and use it to justify further pushing back the special election date that had been set for December 2022. This is the triumvirate period as Bannon, Kushner, and Clarke bring different aspects to the table in the attempt to keep America together.
[5] Kushner officially purges Steve Bannon as an enemy of the state after a little over a year of political intrigue between the two. David Clarke officially steps down into a more subservient role to Kushner and declares him “the leader America needs”. Kushner was ultimately killed when NORAD was compromised and stormed by members of “Roosevelt’s Army” - a widespread rebel group.

New England Republic
2021-2022: Bernie Sanders [1]
2022: Joseph Kennedy [2]
2022-2027: Kerry Healey [3]

[1] Bernie Sanders was largely a figurehead for the New England Republic, but was definitely a familiar and friendly face for the states to rally around. He died of a heart attack in early 2022, succeeded by his Vice President Joe Kennedy.
[2] Joe wasn’t nearly as charismatic as Bernie, but did commit the New England Republic to freeing New York City from the Trumpist administration. He eventually lost re-election to an unlikely person.
[3] Kerry Healey seemed to rise out of a nowhere, a former Lieutenant Governor for Mitt Romney gained recognition for standing up to Secretary of Education Ben Carson when the Trump administration tried to shut down Babson College in 2019 for “speech against the President”. Kerry became an able administrator for the New England Republic until its dissolution following the Second Constitutional Convention.

Director of Occupied New York City
2021-2022: Rudy Guiliani [1]
2022-2023: Mike Flynn [2]
2023: Chris Christie [3]

[1] Rudy Guiliani was an obvious choice for the Director of Occupied New York City and remained there following Trump’s escape to NORAD. He maintained and iron hold on the city utilizing NYPD, Secret Service agents, ARA members, and more.
[2] Flynn succeeded Guiliani as Kushner began to tighten his control over the nation. Flynn used the ARA as a sacrificial lamb, frequently placing them on the frontline to die, and briefly started the controversial so-called “Gulags on the Docks” from which his successor came from.
[3] Chris Christie collaborated with the Broadway Army and helped storm Trump Tower, finally relieving the city of Trumpist influence and allowing the New England Republican Army to bring much needed aid to the city (which had been under blockade for nearly nine months). Christie reluctantly passed control of New York City to the New England Republic in exchange for a promise that there would be no conscription. Much of the Broadway Army transferred into a N.E.R. unit and went on to oversee the surrender of the ARA in Pittsburgh in 2024.

California Republic
President
2021-2022: Louis Marinelli [1]
2022-2024: Marcus Jones [2]
2024-2027: Ebony Parker [3]

[1] Marinelli was the early architect and face of the Cal-Exit movement and so was a natural choice for California’s actual secession. He however lost many key early battles against the Trumpist Army which included many vital water sources.
[2] Marcus Jones was an Iraq War vet whom oversaw multiple raids into Arizona and Nevada despite President Marinelli’s wishes. He quickly ascended to the Presidency to lead his new country to “stick it to the Fascists in Colorado” (referring to NORAD).
[3] Following Marcus Jones stepping down to return to the California Army, Ebony Parker (a radical young Berkley alum) won a crowded election with a promise to coordinate with the other ex-American states to bring the Union back together. She cemented the military alliance with the New England Republic by sending General Marcus Greer to the East Coast.

Chicago Commune
2022-2027: Agent Renegade [1]

[1] Chicago fell to massive ethnic riots during the Bannon period of governance as white militias of former union workers roamed the Midwest as part of the ARA “Alt-Right Army”. While the United States government was removed from Chicago in late 2021, it didn’t form into a sensible political unit until after seven months of anarchy Agent Renegade rose to power. Renegade had been the leader of a smuggling ring after President Trump had begun placing Muslims, immigrants, and liberals into camps during 2021. Renegade eventually revealed themselves to stop the chaos in Chicago and Barack Obama became leader of the Chicago Commune during the Second American Civil War. Under his tenure the Commune declared neutrality and worked to keep it’s own people fed and housed while the rest of the nation fought.

United States of America (Second Republic)

2027-2032: Evan McMullin (Independent) / Javier Munoz (Army of the New Constitution) [1]

[1] Our lord and savior Evan McMuffin presided over the first term as President of the New Republic, having successfully avoided violence at the Second Constitutional Convention after he arranged a compromise between the radical leftist Army of the New Constitution and the much more expansive Rebel Coalition. Under the new Constitution McMullin was limited to a single five year term.
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1921 - 1923: Warren G. Harding / J. Calvin Coolidge (Republican)
1920: James M. Cox / Franklin D. Roosevelt (Democratic)
1923 - 1925: J. Calvin Coolidge / vacant (Republican)
1925 - 1931: J. Calvin Coolidge / Frank O. Lowden (Republican)

1924: Samuel M. Rawlston / David F. Houston (Democratic)
1928: William G. McAdoo / Josiah O. Wolcott (Democratic)

1931 - 1932: Frank O. Lowden / vacant (Republican)
1932 - 1932: Frank B. Kellogg / vacant (Republican)
1932 - 1933: Henry L. Stimson / vacant (Republican)
1933 - 1941: Alvin M. Owsley / Bennett Champ Clark (Democratic)

1932: Henry L. Stimson / Smith W. Brookhart (Republican); Floyd B. Olson / James R. Cox (Jobless)
1936: John Q. Tilson / George H. Moses (Republican)

1941 - 1951: Alvin M. Owsley / Patrick McCarran (National Democratic)
1940: Various Republicans
1944: none (National Democrats sole legal party)
1948: none (National Democrats sole legal party)


-End of the First Republic-

1951 - 1955: Mark W. Clark / Ira C. Eacker / Omar Bradley (National Committee for the Restoration of Constitutional Governance)
1955 - 1960: Mark W. Clark / William P. Rogers (Constitutional)
1955: Robert J. Morris / Virgil Effinger (National)
1960 - 19XX: William P. Rogers / W. Stuart Symington (Constitutional)
1960: Francis E. Walter / John Davis Lodge (Sons of Liberty)
 
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Pretty obvious, but try to guess the trick...


1955-1957: Anthony Greenwood (Labour)
1955: (Majority) Def: Winston Churchill (Conservative), Clement Davies (Liberal)
1957-1959: Harold Wilson (Labour Majority)
1959-1960: Harold Wilson (Labour)

1959: (Minority with Liberal Confidence and Supply) Def: Anthony Eden (Conservative), Arthur Seldon (Liberal)
1960-1963: Harold Wilson (Labour Minority)
1963-1964: Alec Jones (Labour Minority)
1964-1970: Harold Macmillan (Conservative)

1964: (Majority) Def: Alec Jones ("Official" Labour), Alfred Roberts (Liberal), Michael Foot ("Socialist" Labour)
1966: (Minority with Liberal and Social Democrat Confidence and Supply) Def: Enoch Powell (Liberal), Roy Jenkins (Social Democrats), James Callaghan (Socialists), Edward Short ("Continuity" Labour)
1970-1974: Edward du Cann (Liberal)
1970: (Minority with Conservative Confidence and Supply) Def: Roy Jenkins (SDP), Richard Butler/Harold Macmillan ("Official" Conservative/Macmillanite Conservative)
1974-1977: Harold Lever (SDP)
1974: (Minority with New Democratic Confidence and Supply) Def: Edward du Cann (Liberal), Harold Macmillan (New Democratic), Edward Heath (Conservative)
1977-1979: Jim Prior (Liberal)
1979: (Minority with New Democratic and Conservative Confidence and Supply) Def: Harold Lever (SDP), Reginald Maudling (New Democratic), Keith Joseph (Conservative)
1979-1990: Margaret Wingfield (Liberal)
1979: (Majority) Def: David Marquand (SDP), Michael Heseltine (New Democratic)
1983: (Majority) Def: Tony Benn (SDP), David Steel (New Democratic)
1987: (Minority with New Democratic Confidence and Supply) Def: Bryan Gould (SDP), David Owen (Democratic Labour)

1990-1992: John Prescott (SDP-New Democratic Coalition)
1992-1997: John Prescott (SDP)

1992: (Majority) Def: Margaret Wingfield (Liberal), Kenneth Clarke (New Democratic)
1997-2007: Tony Banks (SDP)
1997: (Majority) Def: John Redwood (Liberal), Jeremy Ashdown (New Democratic)
2001: (Majority) Def: Michael Portillo (Liberal), Chris Patten (New Democratic)
2005: (Majority) Def: George Osborne (Liberal), Stephen Dorrel (New Democratic)

2007-2010: Gordon Banks (SDP Majority)
2010-2015: David Davies (Liberal)

2010: (Liberal-New Democratic Coalition) Def: Gordon Banks (SDP), Nick Boles (New Democratic)
2015: (Majority) Def: Ed Balls (SDP), Nick Boles (New Democratic)

2016-20---: Theresa Villiers (Liberal Majority)
 
Well Labour and the Conservatives clearly go belly up. The Liberals get a big boost from classical liberal backers.

Not sure otherwise.
 
Well Labour and the Conservatives clearly go belly up. The Liberals get a big boost from classical liberal backers.

Not sure otherwise.
Yeah the Liberals get a bump from OTL's corporate backer she of neoliberalism falling behind them instead and Labour implodes over the split between the right and left...
 
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