Is there any way Hawaii as an independent Kingdom can survive? If so How long?
I think if Hawaii was a independent Kingdom, they would have been screwed when Hirohoto came into power over in Japan, it probaly would have been a worse Pearl Harbor if Hawaii was independent, and I see them becoming a US state eventually wheater they are annexed in 1898 or not
I think if Hawaii was a independent Kingdom, they would have been screwed when Hirohoto came into power over in Japan, it probaly would have been a worse Pearl Harbor if Hawaii was independent, and I see them becoming a US state eventually wheater they are annexed in 1898 or not
I think if Hawaii was a independent Kingdom, they would have been screwed when Hirohoto came into power over in Japan, it probaly would have been a worse Pearl Harbor if Hawaii was independent, and I see them becoming a US state eventually wheater they are annexed in 1898 or not
Unlikely.
Even before the USA took Hawaii, there were several instances where the French threatened the Islands, and one where the British Did take over the Kingdom for about Six Months.
If the Americans Don't Bother, the British would probably snatch it up.
if the British don't, which I think is unlikely, the Dutch Probably have the second Best Chance.
If we push the POD back Further, the Russians Also have potential, but that would Require someone more competent than Schäffer, and Tzar Alexander I to actually give a damn about it.
who's Hirohoto?
Hirohoto, the Japanesse Emperor!
Unlikely.
Even before the USA took Hawaii, there were several instances where the French threatened the Islands, and one where the British Did take over the Kingdom for about Six Months.
If the Americans Don't Bother, the British would probably snatch it up.
if the British don't, which I think is unlikely, the Dutch Probably have the second Best Chance.
If we push the POD back Further, the Russians Also have potential, but that would Require someone more competent than Schäffer, and Tzar Alexander I to actually give a damn about it.
Ignoring the Butterflies, why would America Give a damn if an Independent Hawaii is attacked?
there's a Hirohito, but I've never heard of Hirohoto.
Unlikely.
Even before the USA took Hawaii, there were several instances where the French threatened the Islands, and one where the British Did take over the Kingdom for about Six Months.
If the Americans Don't Bother, the British would probably snatch it up.
if the British don't, which I think is unlikely, the Dutch Probably have the second Best Chance.
If we push the POD back Further, the Russians Also have potential, but that would Require someone more competent than Schäffer, and Tzar Alexander I to actually give a damn about it.
Ignoring the Butterflies, why would America Give a damn if an Independent Hawaii is attacked?
Could Japan have a realistic shot at it at any point? Maybe the Dutch take it and the Japanese take from the dutch in 1941.
because even before USA had annexed Hawaii, they had ships there, not annexing Hawaii means that American ships are still there on December 7th, 1941 (and we're saying the chance the Pearl Harbor is worse is greater if Hawaii stays independent,)
Given the general frenzy of the age of imperialism for snapping up small states and Hawaii's strategic location, an unconquered island seems extremely unlikely. I think the monarchy's best bet is to become a British protectorate ruled with a light hand, and get its independence back with the monarchy intact and not horribly discredited on the grounds of British collaboration, ala Tonga, Oman, et al.
Is there any way Hawaii as an independent Kingdom can survive? If so How long?
I mean, it already is. The Hawaiian culture experienced a renaissance during the 60s-80s, with hula, hawaiian music, and traditional events being brought back. So while I, as a proud hawaiian, can tell you it's unlikely we'll ever see the Kingdom once more, it's legacy is carried on still.
IIRC the British and the French had an agreement that neither would try and claim the islands since they didn't want to see the other get them and were useful enough as a neutral port. If you want to stop the coup and the islands later going to the US perhaps instead of just an agreement not to claim them the British and French declare the islands to be a joint protectorate? They did it with the Hew Hebrides apparently. Allows the locals to run things internally whilst the Anglo-French protectors take care of foreign relations and defence issues.If the Americans Don't Bother, the British would probably snatch it up.