Map Thread V

B_Munro · Sep 17, 2009

Atom said:
Hey, B_Munro! Love the map, its very very cool, I like the color choice in particular, works well. However one question, why isn't the Mississippi taken?

It was, during the initial stages of the invasion. Lots and lots of depth charges and concentrated toxins since then, and there's a mass of electrified submarine netting and a lot of very brave frogmen and bathysphere scouts with lights on the upriver side of the nets.

Bruce

Canis Lupus · Sep 17, 2009

Nietzsche said:
Doesn't work like that. See, just by thinking he can kill you, swallow your soul and warp time and space. We're boned.

Sounds like a Mary Sue to me.

This is why I wont read Lovecraft.

fernerdave · Sep 17, 2009

The Kiat said:
World War III in its second year, 1977. I'm out of Soviet Wank maps for the time being.

itd be cool to see these maps in a slide-show...

Venusian Si · Sep 17, 2009

Canis Lupus said:
Sounds like a Mary Sue to me.

Hmm, didn't know Cthulhu was a student at Hogwarts.

Ofaloaf · Sep 17, 2009

Canis Lupus said:
Sounds like a Mary Sue to me.

This is why I wont read Lovecraft.

You know that frowny-stare face, a kind of "what did you say?" expression? My face has that exact look to it.

1. A Mary Sue is an author insert, an embodiment of wish fulfillment, an idealized person, a plethora of different things. Cthulhu doesn't meet any of those definitions besides "Mary Sue as Protagonist You Don't Like", and even then Cthulhu is not the protagonist.

2. By even referring to Cthulhu as a character, you're missing the point. Death (when not personified) is never treated as a character. It just happens. Cthulhu is never treated as a character, either. He/it/she is a goddamn force of nature, a being so vast and powerful that Lovecraft generally avoided giving a complete description of the thing in any of his stories, so as lessen perceptions of him/it being a character. Cthulhu doesn't do things. Cthulhu just happens, like thunderstorms or death.

3. Goddamn read a story and then make a judgement.

Ynnead · Sep 17, 2009

Canis Lupus said:
Sounds like a Mary Sue to me.

This is why I wont read Lovecraft.

I don't think you understand what Cthulhu is.

Faeelin said:
Pff. Cthulhu ain't got nothing on the atomic bomb. The dude got owned by a speed boat.

No it didn't, it at best mildly annoyed Cthulhu and keep in mind Cthulhu wasn't fully awake.

RGB · Sep 17, 2009

Ofaloaf said:
Goddamn read a story and then make a judgement.

That requires reading.

B_Munro · Sep 17, 2009

Ryder said:
No it didn't, it at best mildly annoyed Cthulhu and keep in mind Cthulhu wasn't fully awake.

I prefer my "explanation"

. Lovecraft wrote himself into a corner at that point, and made a rather clumsy escape...

Bruce

The Kiat · Sep 17, 2009

fernerdave said:
itd be cool to see these maps in a slide-show...

Not a bad idea. World War II, the European Theater, one map for each week (or if it's the 1980s, for each day). Watch the war unfold.

Ynnead · Sep 17, 2009

catboy637 said:
Did he ever mention what could stop Cuthulu? Such as 1984 level mind tricks?

Room 101 is child's play compared to Cthulhu.

Archangel Michael · Sep 17, 2009

Ofaloaf said:
You know that frowny-stare face, a kind of "what did you say?" expression? My face has that exact look to it.

1. A Mary Sue is an author insert, an embodiment of wish fulfillment, an idealized person, a plethora of different things. Cthulhu doesn't meet any of those definitions besides "Mary Sue as Protagonist You Don't Like", and even then Cthulhu is not the protagonist.

2. By even referring to Cthulhu as a character, you're missing the point. Death (when not personified) is never treated as a character. It just happens. Cthulhu is never treated as a character, either. He/it/she is a goddamn force of nature, a being so vast and powerful that Lovecraft generally avoided giving a complete description of the thing in any of his stories, so as lessen perceptions of him/it being a character. Cthulhu doesn't do things. Cthulhu just happens, like thunderstorms or death.

3. Goddamn read a story and then make a judgement.

Basically, either Mary Sues don't work that way or Cthulhu doesn't work that way. And what's so Mary Sueish about Cthulhu? Yes he's powerful, but then again, he's a goddamn god. And even then, there's more powerful Outer Gods and Great Old Ones than Cthulhu.

Kulkasha · Sep 18, 2009

Why is there a debate on H.P. Lovecraft's 'mythos' stretching over three pages on this Thread? Dear God, someone's going to bring up Ayn Rand and Memento soon, aren't they?

Thinker1200 · Sep 18, 2009

Its awesome, so be quite and enjoy it.

DrakeRlugia · Sep 18, 2009

Just finished this today. It's supposed to be 1750 or thereabouts. Yeah, it's probably not perfect, but I've never been that great on perfecting borders. But I tried. I'm sure I misplaced all kinds of tribes, too, so any suggestions for that would be welcome too!

The World, Anno Domini 1750

(Made it a link because it really is a huge map... Map courtesy of Civfanatics.net's NES forum. They really have some great base maps for some of their games, I swear by them)

Thande · Sep 18, 2009

DrakeRlugia said:
Just finished this today. It's supposed to be 1750 or thereabouts. Yeah, it's probably not perfect, but I've never been that great on perfecting borders. But I tried. I'm sure I misplaced all kinds of tribes, too, so any suggestions for that would be welcome too!

The World, Anno Domini 1750

(Made it a link because it really is a huge map... Map courtesy of Civfanatics.net's NES forum. They really have some great base maps for some of their games, I swear by them)

That's pretty nifty, and it's nice to see a different world basemap.

DrakeRlugia · Sep 18, 2009

Thande said:
That's pretty nifty, and it's nice to see a different world basemap.

I agree... I've enjoyed making maps for a really long time and I've always favored larger ones over the smaller ones. I guess because you can fit a lot more details in. Especially good for the messy days of Renaissance and Baroque Europe -- Italy and Germany have never looked quite as nice.

Susano · Sep 18, 2009

Okay, I appreciate doing the HRE at this scale is difficult, but funnily enough you made it even more balkankised as really was

Nugax · Sep 18, 2009

Thande said:
That's pretty nifty, and it's nice to see a different world basemap.

I've been using and advertising the Civfanatics NES map for ages

. Symphony D. has made some pretty amazing base maps, I recommend checking out the one with every city over 80k population in the world marked.

DrakeRlugia · Sep 18, 2009

Haha, I wouldn't think that even possible, Susano

I guess I did go a bit crazy North of Bavaria... but in my defense it is somewhat difficult to find a reasonably good map of the HRE. I used this as a base.

Ah well, it's all in good fun! Doing Germany is actually my favorite part of any map before the Napoleonic wars.

DrakeRlugia · Sep 18, 2009

Nugax said:
I've been using and advertising the Civfanatics NES map for ages . Symphony D. has made some pretty amazing base maps, I recommend checking out the one with every city over 80k population in the world marked.

Yeah, he has made some pretty cool maps... I don't really like the one with cities marked on it though... makes it look quite cluttered. I remember back before Symphony D came around, and they used the maps made by Jason -- I liked that style better for placing cities, but maybe that's just me.