Love the new update - I hope it's not just coincidence that Raja is from Richmond either. One of our best kept secrets here is that Richmond has one of the oldest and most established Indian-American community in the country.
Glen
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That part is actually an homage to a good friend of mine.
Also, Andrew Jackson Beauregard?
Yeah, big planter family...
Glen
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While it's a bit parallel, the Rosetta stone is still likely to have been recognized by the French who would still have been likely to have engaged in that expedition.
Glen
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Just read that update, pretty interesting. The spelling of Hindoo though
Gotta expect variations in how spelling would standardize in different timelines...
Glen
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Presidents of the United States of America
**Some Historians dispute whether Lynch should be counted as a President, and instead classify him as 'Acting President', but most history texts count him as the 12th President of the United States, even if never elected to the office.
- George Washington - No Party Affiliation - 1789-1797
- John Adams - Federalist - 1797-1805
- Thomas Jefferson - Democratic-Republican - 1805-1813
- James Madison - Federalist - 1813-1821
- John Quincey Adams - Federalist - 1821-1829
- John Andrew Schulze - Democratic-Republican - 1829-1837
- Peter Buell Porter - Federalist - 1837-1841
- Pierre Nicolas de Condorcet - Democrat* - 1841-1849
- Benjamin Hull Kays - Federalist - 1849-1857
- Nicholas Samuel Roosevelt - Federalist - 1857-1865
- Anthony Wayne Tullis - Democrat - 1865-1868 (Assassinated)
- Barabas Lynch - Democrat - 1868-1869 (Tullis' Vice-President**)
- Horace Napoleon Miller - Democrat - 1869-1873
- John Bertrand - Federalist - 1873-1881
- James Blunt - Federalist - 1881-1885
- Erastus R. Bingham - Democrat - 1885-1889
- Alexander Poe - Federalist - 1889-1897
- Steven Ladd - Democrat - 1897-1901
- Henry Bramlett - Democrat - 1901 - 1909
- Grant Baxter - Democrat - 1909 - 1917
**Some Historians dispute whether Lynch should be counted as a President, and instead classify him as 'Acting President', but most history texts count him as the 12th President of the United States, even if never elected to the office.
Yeah, I get that. It was just a joke, sorry.
Also, I didn't realize that the same parties lasted all this time in the US. Thats pretty cool.
So it is definitive on Madison being a Federalist? Because you seemed to have flipped between a Federalist and Democrat-Republican a couple of different times in your earlier lists on Presidents.
I am curious though as to why he is a Federalist in this TL though. Would i be right in guessing he does not have that break with Hamilton or even Washington? Perhaps John Laurens lives and moves north after the Revolution? Just curious.
Also, 20 years of Democratic control here at the end, 1897-1917. Its the longest time yet.
Glen
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IT does seem that way - Hamilton was marginalized more ITTL and with no Quasi War, no Alien & Sedition act, Madison stays more Federalist. You are correct that in the original mentions he was still listed the way he went OTL.
Nope - the war went not so good for the Revolutionaries in South Carolina, and Laurens was one reckless guy - it's actually MORE likely he would die ITTL than IOTL where he in fact did.
True. The country had gotten a lot out of the Federalists, but were ready for a long rest.
Glen
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In the 1916 Presidential Election, the vote swung back to the East Coast and the Federalist party, electing New York Governor Remy Aupaumut as president. President Aupaumut was the scion of a prominent New York family who traced their ancestry back to Revolutionary War hero (of Mohican extraction) Hendrick Aupaumut.
