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Old November 14th, 2012, 06:56 AM
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Good for you, making something involving the Provisional Government. I always thought that was something absolutely nobody knew about.
Someone else knows about the Provisional Government. I'm either about to jump up and down shouting 'yippee,' or about to get my preacher voice out and start talking about how we'll spread the Word of Oregon to the huddled masses yearning to breathe free.
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Old November 14th, 2012, 07:15 AM
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Wait, it isn't common knowledge?

It's almost always involved in any Balkanized North America scenario I've ever imagined.
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Old November 14th, 2012, 08:06 AM
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Your Columbia doesn't actually have its namesake running through it. I would rename it Fraser.
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Old November 14th, 2012, 08:13 AM
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Your Columbia doesn't actually have its namesake running through it. I would rename it Fraser.
Doesn't the Columbia River run through both Washington and Oregon?
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Old November 14th, 2012, 08:33 AM
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Also, ridings can only be called that when there are three of them in a county.
We've had this discussion before. You're absolutely right (as a Yorkshireman I well know the origins of the word riding), but this fact has been forgotten in the word's usage in Canada OTL where it's just used to mean any election constituency.
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Old November 14th, 2012, 08:38 AM
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Haven't quite figured it out yet, I'm not really well versed in the different methods of figuring out the winner. So far I've got it so that people vote on a district level, and then the party with the majority of districts won in a province wins the province. But after that, I'm not sure. I was thinking something like the US system where each province is worth a certain number of seats based on population, but I want a fair election where each province has the same amount of say. I was just going to say the party with the most provinces wins the election, but that raises problems if there's a tie.
When I saw it I was picturing Mixed Member Proportional Representation like that used in Germany or the devolved parliaments of Scotland and Wales in OTL. Each district elects one representative by first-past-the-post, and then each province is given a certain number of extra 'top-up' seats which are assigned based on the percentage of popular vote across the whole province. Thus giving representation to parties whose vote isn't concentrated enough to win an FPTP district but over a big area nonetheless wins a significant percentage of the popular vote.

Exactly what the ratio of FPTP seats to proportional district top-up seats is can vary--in Germany it's 50:50, in Scotland it's currently 73 FPTP and 56 top-up.
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Old November 14th, 2012, 09:39 AM
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Could someone make me this flag, only in St. Andrews Cross style?
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Old November 14th, 2012, 10:29 AM
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Old November 14th, 2012, 10:42 AM
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Old November 14th, 2012, 10:43 AM
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That's actually the map of a very trippy country.
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Old November 14th, 2012, 11:11 AM
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Your Columbia doesn't actually have its namesake running through it. I would rename it Fraser.
It's British Columbia with the British removed.
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Old November 14th, 2012, 11:17 AM
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Your two districts per state division seems a bit arbitrary if you ask me. Also, ridings can only be called that when there are three of them in a county.

However, as you mention Klamath, I will forgive and forget.
Of course, the English/Scandinavian subdivision "hundred" was originally designed to designate an area that could contribute one hundred men-at-arms for its King's army in times of war, but rapidly lost that sense of meaning. The term "hundred" was still put into use in several of the 13 Colonies, however, and I can't see them being an accurate representation of the original meaning. Indeed, it seems that in Virginia, it was mildly popular for new plantation founders to name the area around (and including) their plantation a "hundred" for no more reason than to try to relive a bit of the Old Country customs that they were used to...
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Old November 14th, 2012, 11:53 AM
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Of course, the English/Scandinavian subdivision "hundred" was originally designed to designate an area that could contribute one hundred men-at-arms for its King's army in times of war, but rapidly lost that sense of meaning. The term "hundred" was still put into use in several of the 13 Colonies, however, and I can't see them being an accurate representation of the original meaning. Indeed, it seems that in Virginia, it was mildly popular for new plantation founders to name the area around (and including) their plantation a "hundred" for no more reason than to try to relive a bit of the Old Country customs that they were used to...
'Hundred' isn't the only term used though, it depends on region. In Yorkshire for example they were called 'wapentakes' (as in, the place where you assemble the militiamen and they take the weapons) and in some southern counties they were given the unfortunate name of 'rapes'.
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Old November 14th, 2012, 12:04 PM
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'Hundred' isn't the only term used though, it depends on region. In Yorkshire for example they were called 'wapentakes' (as in, the place where you assemble the militiamen and they take the weapons) and in some southern counties they were given the unfortunate name of 'rapes'.
It all depends on the culture that settled in the early medieval period - I believe hundred was a Wessex'ian' measure and Wapentake was a norse one.
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Old November 14th, 2012, 12:47 PM
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Meanwhile Cumberland used wards instead.
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Old November 14th, 2012, 02:59 PM
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Since there have been so many Pacific Northwests in the last couple of pages...
Here's another.
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Old November 14th, 2012, 03:16 PM
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'Hundred' isn't the only term used though, it depends on region. In Yorkshire for example they were called 'wapentakes'
Wow, Prachett makes a lot more sense now.
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Old November 14th, 2012, 04:10 PM
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It's British Columbia with the British removed.
If you're breaking up the province, and even (slightly) renaming the remainding bit, then why not go all the way and give it a name that fits its new geography?
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Old November 14th, 2012, 04:58 PM
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Your two districts per state division seems a bit arbitrary if you ask me. Also, ridings can only be called that when there are three of them in a county.

However, as you mention Klamath, I will forgive and forget.
Hm, I wonder how many ridings there are in the various counties of Ontario. My guess is a range of like less than one to twenty.
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Old November 14th, 2012, 07:35 PM
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I like it, but so hard to read!
Sorry! I really like the font and it saves a lot of space.

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