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Hit movies and TV shows dictate much of the charts in 1984-5. "Ghostbusters" is the top song of 1984. Stephanie Mills’s “Bit by Bit”, theme song for the [[timelines:film_dirty_laundry|1985's fourth biggest hit //Fletch//]], peaks at #4, being her biggest hit ever. Rampage, the fictional-bad-boy-band led by Michael Bolton from the TV show //Dreams//, has a #7 with "Everybody's Crazy". | Hit movies and TV shows dictate much of the charts in 1984-5. "Ghostbusters" is the top song of 1984. Stephanie Mills’s “Bit by Bit”, theme song for the [[timelines:film_dirty_laundry|1985's fourth biggest hit //Fletch//]], peaks at #4, being her biggest hit ever. Rampage, the fictional-bad-boy-band led by Michael Bolton from the TV show //Dreams//, has a #7 with "Everybody's Crazy". |
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**IOTL**: "Ghostbusters" was #9, with the year's top song being the non-existant ITTL "When Doves Cry". "Bit by Bit" peaked at #78, with Mills still having her biggest success with “I Never Knew Love Like This Before” in 1980 (#8). "Everybody's Crazy" was the title track of Bolton's last hard rock album, before he shifted to a successful AOR-oriented easy listening career. | **IOTL**: "Ghostbusters" was #9, with the year's top song being the non-existent ITTL "When Doves Cry". "Bit by Bit" peaked at #78, with Mills still having her biggest success with “I Never Knew Love Like This Before” in 1980 (#8). "Everybody's Crazy" was the title track of Bolton's last hard rock album, before he shifted to a successful AOR-oriented easy listening career. |
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Stevie Nicks only scores one Top 40 hit in her 1983 album //The Wild Heart//, "If Anyone Falls" (#14). | Stevie Nicks only scores one Top 40 hit in her 1983 album //The Wild Heart//, "If Anyone Falls" (#14). |
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**IOTL: The album's lead single "Stand Back" hit #5, and Nicks wrote it after listening to Prince's "Little Red Corvette" (which never even cracked the top 10 ITTL). "Nightbird" also got to the top 40 (#33) | **IOTL**: The album's lead single "Stand Back" hit #5, and Nicks wrote it after listening to Prince's "Little Red Corvette" (which never even cracked the top 10 ITTL). "Nightbird" also got to the top 40 (#33) |
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Former Go-Gos singer Belinda Carlisle tops the Billboard 200 with her album //Belinda//, source of two hit singles, “Mad About You” (#2) and “Follow Your Heart” (#4). | Former Go-Gos singer Belinda Carlisle tops the Billboard 200 with her album //Belinda//, source of two hit singles, “Mad About You” (#2) and “Follow Your Heart” (#4). |
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**IOTL**: //Belinda// was #13, "Mad About You" was #3, and "Follow Your Heart" is the song Madonna would rewrite into "Open Your Heart". | **IOTL**: //Belinda// was #13, "Mad About You" was #3, and "Follow Your Heart" is the song Madonna would rewrite into "Open Your Heart". |
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Kurt Cobain is a successful actor\comedian, who had his big break in 1986, once Bobcat Goldthwait arranged him an appearance in //[[timelines:television_dirty_laundry|The Lost Episode]]//. | Kurt Cobain is a successful actor\comedian, who had his big break in 1986, once Bobcat Goldthwait arranged him an appearance in //[[timelines:television_dirty_laundry|The Lost Episode]]//. |
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**IOTL**: The above is barely plausible ([[offtopic:andrew_t|the author]] [[http://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/dirty-laundry-an-alternate-1980s.231820/page-3#post-6786516|not]] [[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showpost.php?p=6783148&postcount=9|liking]] Cobain's band helps). Even before the POD, Kurt was mostly interested in music. In 1986, Kurt was a poor 19 year old who had formed a band in December of the previous year, and didn't have any resources to leave Seattle - so him in California attempting an acting career is a stretch, specially as he only met the "connection" [[https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/rt79j/i_am_bobcat_goldthwait_ask_me_anything/c48gmz9/|Bobcat Goldthwait after forming Nirvana]]. | **IOTL**: The above is barely plausible ([[offtopic:andrew_t|the author]] [[http://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/dirty-laundry-an-alternate-1980s.231820/page-3#post-6786516|not]] [[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/1/post-6783148|liking]] Cobain's band helps). Even before the POD, Kurt was mostly interested in music. In 1986, Kurt was a poor 19 year old who had formed a band in December of the previous year, and didn't have any resources to leave Seattle - so him in California attempting an acting career is a stretch, specially as he only met the "connection" [[https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/rt79j/i_am_bobcat_goldthwait_ask_me_anything/c48gmz9/|Bobcat Goldthwait after forming Nirvana]]. |
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1984 Grammy Awards | 1984 Grammy Awards |
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*Album of the Year – Cyndi Lauper, //She’s So Unusual// | *Album of the Year – Cyndi Lauper, //She’s So Unusual// |
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*Record of the Year – Bruce Springsteen, “Dancing in the Dark” | *Record of the Year – Bruce Springsteen, “Dancing in the Dark” |
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*Song of the Year – Phil Collins, “Against All Odds” | *Song of the Year – Phil Collins, “Against All Odds” |
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*Best New Artist – Cyndi Lauper | *Best New Artist – Cyndi Lauper |
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*Pop Female Vocalist – Cyndi Lauper, “Girls Just Want to Have Fun” | *Pop Female Vocalist – Cyndi Lauper, “Girls Just Want to Have Fun” |
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*Pop Male Vocalist – Phil Collins, “Against All Odds” | *Pop Male Vocalist – Phil Collins, “Against All Odds” |
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*Pop Vocal Group – The Cars, “Drive” | *Pop Vocal Group – The Cars, “Drive” |
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*Rock Female Vocalist – Tina Turner, “Better Be Good To Me” | *Rock Female Vocalist – Tina Turner, “Better Be Good To Me” |
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*Rock Male Vocalist – Bruce Springsteen, “Dancing in the Dark” | *Rock Male Vocalist – Bruce Springsteen, “Dancing in the Dark” |
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*Rock Vocal Group – Van Halen, “Jump” | *Rock Vocal Group – Van Halen, “Jump” |
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**IOTL**: | **IOTL**: |
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*Album of the Year: //Can't Slow Down//, Lionel Richie | *Album of the Year: //Can't Slow Down//, Lionel Richie |
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*Record of the Year\Song of the Year\Best Pop Vocal Performance, Female: Tina Turner, "What's Love Got To Do With It" | *Record of the Year\Song of the Year\Best Pop Vocal Performance, Female: Tina Turner, "What's Love Got To Do With It" |
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*Best Pop Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocal: The Pointer Sisters, "Jump (For My Love)" | *Best Pop Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocal: The Pointer Sisters, "Jump (For My Love)" |
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*Best Rock Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocal: Prince And The Revolution, //Purple Rain// | *Best Rock Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocal: Prince And The Revolution, //Purple Rain// |
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1985 Grammy Awards (OTL winner in bold unless specified): | 1985 Grammy Awards (OTL winner in bold unless specified): |
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* Album of the Year – Dire Straits, Brothers in Arms (over Motley Crue, Resurrection Day; Survivor, Vital Signs; Tears for Fears, Songs From the Big Chair; Bryan Adams, Reckless) (**IOTL**: Phil Collins, //No Jacket Required//) | * Album of the Year – Dire Straits, Brothers in Arms (over Motley Crue, Resurrection Day; Survivor, Vital Signs; Tears for Fears, Songs From the Big Chair; Bryan Adams, Reckless) (**IOTL**: Phil Collins, //No Jacket Required//) |
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* Record of the Year – Dire Straits, “Money For Nothing” (Scorpions/Barry Manilow, “Weekend in New England”; Bryan Adams, “Heaven”; Huey Lewis & The News, “The Power of Love”; Bruce Springsteen, “Born in the U.S.A.”) (**IOTL**: USA for Africa, "We Are the World") | * Record of the Year – Dire Straits, “Money For Nothing” (Scorpions/Barry Manilow, “Weekend in New England”; Bryan Adams, “Heaven”; Huey Lewis & The News, “The Power of Love”; Bruce Springsteen, “Born in the U.S.A.”) (**IOTL**: USA for Africa, "We Are the World") |
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* Song of the Year – Mark Knopfler & Sting, “Money For Nothing” (Daryl Hall, “Every Time You Go Away”; Harold Faltermeyer and Keith Forsey, “The Heat Is On”; Frankie Sullivan and Jim Peterik, “The Search Is Over”; Bryan Adams and Jim Vallance, “Heaven”) (**IOTL**: USA for Africa, "We Are the World") | * Song of the Year – Mark Knopfler & Sting, “Money For Nothing” (Daryl Hall, “Every Time You Go Away”; Harold Faltermeyer and Keith Forsey, “The Heat Is On”; Frankie Sullivan and Jim Peterik, “The Search Is Over”; Bryan Adams and Jim Vallance, “Heaven”) (**IOTL**: USA for Africa, "We Are the World") |
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*Best New Artist – a-ha (Other nominees: The Power Station, Julian Lennon, The Honeydrippers, Yngwie Malmsteen) (**IOTL**: Sade) | *Best New Artist – a-ha (Other nominees: The Power Station, Julian Lennon, The Honeydrippers, Yngwie Malmsteen) (**IOTL**: Sade) |
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*Best Pop Vocal Performance, Female – Tina Turner, “We Don’t Need Another Hero (Thunderdome)” (Other nominees: **Whitney Houston, “Saving All My Love For You”**; Pat Benatar, “We Belong”; Carly Simon, Spoiled Girl; Stephanie Mills, “Bit By Bit”) | *Best Pop Vocal Performance, Female – Tina Turner, “We Don’t Need Another Hero (Thunderdome)” (Other nominees: **Whitney Houston, “Saving All My Love For You”**; Pat Benatar, “We Belong”; Carly Simon, Spoiled Girl; Stephanie Mills, “Bit By Bit”) |
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*Best Pop Vocal Performance, Male – Bryan Adams, “Heaven” (Other nominees: Glenn Frey, “The Heat Is On”; Paul Young, “Every Time You Go Away”; Stevie Wonder, “Part-Time Lover”; **Phil Collins, //No Jacket Required//**) | *Best Pop Vocal Performance, Male – Bryan Adams, “Heaven” (Other nominees: Glenn Frey, “The Heat Is On”; Paul Young, “Every Time You Go Away”; Stevie Wonder, “Part-Time Lover”; **Phil Collins, //No Jacket Required//**) |
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*Best Pop Vocal Performance by a Duo or Group – Survivor, “The Search Is Over” (Other nominees: Foreigner, “I Want To Know What Love Is”; Philip Bailey & Phil Collins, “Easy Lover”; Huey Lewis & The News, “The Power of Love”; Mr. Mister, “Broken Wings”) (**IOTL**: USA for Africa, "We Are the World") | *Best Pop Vocal Performance by a Duo or Group – Survivor, “The Search Is Over” (Other nominees: Foreigner, “I Want To Know What Love Is”; Philip Bailey & Phil Collins, “Easy Lover”; Huey Lewis & The News, “The Power of Love”; Mr. Mister, “Broken Wings”) (**IOTL**: USA for Africa, "We Are the World") |
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*Best Rock Vocal Performance, Female – Pat Benatar, “We Belong" (Other nominees: Teena Marie, “Lovergirl”; **Tina Turner, “One Of The Living”**; Nona Hendryx, “Rock This House”; Melba Moore, “Read My Lips”) | *Best Rock Vocal Performance, Female – Pat Benatar, “We Belong" (Other nominees: Teena Marie, “Lovergirl”; **Tina Turner, “One Of The Living”**; Nona Hendryx, “Rock This House”; Melba Moore, “Read My Lips”) |
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*Best Rock Vocal Performance, Male – Bryan Adams, Reckless (Other nominees: Glenn Frey, “You Belong to the City”; John Fogerty, “Centerfield”; John Cougar Mellencamp, Scarecrow; Murray Head, “One Night In Bangkok”) (**IOTL**: Don Henley, "The Boys of Summer") | *Best Rock Vocal Performance, Male – Bryan Adams, Reckless (Other nominees: Glenn Frey, “You Belong to the City”; John Fogerty, “Centerfield”; John Cougar Mellencamp, Scarecrow; Murray Head, “One Night In Bangkok”) (**IOTL**: Don Henley, "The Boys of Summer") |
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*Best Rock Vocal Performance by a Duo or Group – Scorpions/Barry Manilow, “Weekend In New England” (Other nominees: **Dire Straits, “Money for Nothing”**; Heart, //Heart//; REO Speedwagon, //Wheels Are Turning//; Van Halen, //Starting At Zero//) | *Best Rock Vocal Performance by a Duo or Group – Scorpions/Barry Manilow, “Weekend In New England” (Other nominees: **Dire Straits, “Money for Nothing”**; Heart, //Heart//; REO Speedwagon, //Wheels Are Turning//; Van Halen, //Starting At Zero//) |
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*Best Rock Instrumental – Yngwie Malmsteen, Rising Force (Other nominees: Scorpions, “Journey of the Sorceror”; Tears For Fears, “Broken”; **Jeff Beck, “Escape”**; Stevie Ray Vaughan & Double Trouble, “Say What!”) | |
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| *Best Rock Instrumental – Yngwie Malmsteen, Rising Force (Other nominees: Scorpions, “Journey of the Sorceror”; Tears For Fears, “Broken”; **Jeff Beck, “Escape”**; Stevie Ray Vaughan & Double Trouble, “Say What!”) |
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Assorted cases: | 1989 Grammys |
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| Best Hard Rock/Metal Performance Vocal or Instrumental: Def Leppard's //Euphoria// over AC/DC’s //Heatseeker//, Metallica’s //…And Justice For All//, and the runaway favorite, Motley Crue’s //Appetite for Destruction//. |
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| **IOTL**: //Crest of a Knave// by Jethro Tull beat //Blow Up Your Video// by AC/DC, "Cold Metal" by Iggy Pop (from the album Instinct), //Nothing's Shocking// by Jane's Addiction,, and the favorite, Metallica's album. |
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"Stand Back" is never written ITTL (which is a shame); "If Anyone Falls" is the only top-40 hit for | |
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* Marvin Gaye is not murdered by his own father, and re-records “Ain’t No Mountain High Enough” with Whitney Houston for //The Color Purple//. It is a #1 hit. | * Marvin Gaye is not murdered by his own father, and re-records “Ain’t No Mountain High Enough” with Whitney Houston for //The Color Purple//. It is a #1 hit. |
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* Since Robert Palmer’s //Riptide// album is essentially a Power Station album, they stay together for at least one more album, //Let's Make a Deal//. | * Since Robert Palmer’s //Riptide// album is essentially a Power Station album, they stay together for at least one more album, //Let's Make a Deal//. |
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* Lita Ford and Tony Iommi never break up their engagement, making their collaboration album //The Bride Wore Black// actually get released. This also means that the ill-fated //Seventh Star// “Black Sabbath” album is never done. | * Lita Ford and Tony Iommi never break up their engagement, making their collaboration album //The Bride Wore Black// actually get released. This also means that the ill-fated //Seventh Star// “Black Sabbath” album is never done. |
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* Without "We Are The World", Lionel Richie doesn't tinker //Dancing on the Ceiling// further and releases it under the original title //Say You, Say Me//. | * Without "We Are The World", Lionel Richie doesn't tinker //Dancing on the Ceiling// further and releases it under the original title //Say You, Say Me//. |