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 **IOTL**: In the 1980s alone, //I Can't Stand Still// was followed by the widely praised //Building the Perfect Beast// in 1984, with two top 10 hits (including the Grammy winner "The Boys of Summer") and 1989's //The End of the Innocence//, which gave Henley another Grammy.
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+Henley's musical partner Danny Kortchmar eventually joined another one of the Eagles, Glenn Frey, writing with him a song named "Don't Look Back" in 1985. Frey by then had scored a top 10 album and hit with //Smuggler’s Blues// and its leading single title track, which is followed by the #1 hits  "The Heat Is On" (theme of the movie //Beverly Hills Cop//) and "You Belong to the City" (from the show //Miami Vice//). The success of both media also helps Eddie Murphy ("Party All the Time" is also #1) and KISS (Gene Simmons' appeared in an episode of //Vice//, "Heaven's On Fire" shoots to the top 10)
+**IOTL**: "Don't Look Back" is what could be salvaged from OTL's "The Boys of Summer", one of Henley's biggest hits. Frey's 1984 album was //The Allnighter//, after the song of the same name, and MCA released “Sexy Girl” (#20 on the Billboard Top 100) as the first single, followed by “The Allnighter” (#54), and then “Smuggler’s Blues” (#12). "Party all the Time" was #2, beaten by Lionel Richie's "Say You, Say Me", while "Heaven's on Fire" was only #49. Both of Frey's songs hit #2, the former behind  "Can't Fight This Feeling" by REO Speedwagon, and the latter trailing Starship's "We Built This City", which is different ITTL...
-Boston releases //Third Stage// in 1983 on ‎Warner Bros. Records, where Tom Scholz signed after leaving Epic Records because the company's ties to Atari gave him the backing for his Rockman amplifier. Given the label leaked "Amanda" to pressure Scholz into finishing the album, the song became the lead single, topping the Billboard Hot 100. "Hollyann" and "We're Ready" were also top 10 hits as the album was certified Diamond, with 11 million copies in the USA alone.  Singer Brad Delp wound up recruited to replace David Lee Roth in Van Halen in 1985. His debut in the band was //Starting At Zero//, featuring #1 hit "The Test of Time" and released in 1986 - the same year Journey released the album //Alien//, their first with singer Sammy Hagar as Steve Perry preferred to remain solo.
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-**IOTL**: Boston signed with MCA and only released //Third Stage// in 1987. The album was 4x Platinum for 4 million copies, and "Hollyann" failed to chart. Van Halen recruited Hagar to replace Roth, with "Van Hagar"'s first album //5150// topping the Billboard 200 and featuring a #3 hit with "Why Can't This Be Love". Perry was still invited to record Journey's 1986 album //Raised on Radio//, which had the singer firing bassist Ross Valory and drummer Steve Smith during production. Perry recorded one more album before leaving Journey.
+Heart's self-titled album, released in 1985, continued the band's transition into mainstream hard rock, a genre that yielded the band its greatest commercial success. It had six hits, including “We Built This City / Rock and Roll", which started with a song by lyricist Bernie Taupin before launching into Heart's trademark cover of Led Zeppelin's "Rock N' Roll". "What About Love" features backing vocals of Grace Slick of Starship, which had a commercial failure with the album //Sara//.
+**IOTL**: //Heart// marks the band transition to mainstream rock, with five hit songs. "We Built This City" is a #1 hit for Starship (one of its lines named its platinum-selling album //Knee Deep In the Hoopla//), and is sometimes labeled the worst hit song ever.
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+Boston releases //Third Stage// in 1983 on ‎Warner Bros. Records, where Tom Scholz signed after leaving Epic Records because [[timelines:technology_dirty_laundry|the company's ties to Atari]] gave him the backing for his Rockman amplifier. Given the label leaked "Amanda" to pressure Scholz into finishing the album, the song became the lead single, topping the Billboard Hot 100. "Hollyann" and "We're Ready" were also top 10 hits as the album was certified Diamond, with 11 million copies in the USA alone.  Singer Brad Delp wound up recruited to replace David Lee Roth in Van Halen in 1985. His debut in the band was //Starting At Zero//, featuring #1 hit "The Test of Time"  and released in 1986 - the same year Journey released the album //Alien//, their first with singer Sammy Hagar as Steve Perry preferred to remain solo.
+**IOTL**: Boston signed with MCA and only released //Third Stage// in 1987. The album was 4x Platinum for 4 million copies, and "Hollyann" failed to chart. Van Halen recruited Hagar to replace Roth, with "Van Hagar"'s first album //5150// topping the Billboard 200 and featuring a #3 hit with "Why Can't This Be Love". Perry was still invited to record Journey's 1986 album //Raised on Radio//, which had the singer firing bassist Ross Valory and drummer Steve Smith during production. Perry recorded one more album before leaving Journey.
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-Cyndi Lauper is the biggest female singer of the 1980s. One of her albums is a collaboration with Billy Joel, 1985's //Code of Silence//, which featured tracks by both along with a dueting in the title track.
+Cyndi Lauper is the biggest female singer of the 1980s. One of her albums is a collaboration with Billy Joel, 1985's //Code of Silence//, which featured tracks by both along with a duet in the title track.
 **IOTL**: In 1986, Lauper released //True Colors// and Joel had //The Bridge//, which featured "Code of Silence", co-written and with backing vocals by Lauper.
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 Rick Allen nearly crashes his car in 1984, inspiring the Def Leppard song "Swerve", one of the hits in their standout album //Hysteria//. Released in 1985, it sold 40 million copies worldwide, had four #1 hits and is wisely praised, even being nominated for Album of the Year at the Grammys. Follow-up //Euphoria// continues their winning streak, earning them a controversial Grammy Award for Best Hard Rock/Metal Performance Vocal or Instrumental over among others Metallica. After guitarist Steve Clark dies of an overdose, he is replaced by Slash, who records the band's final album //Erotomania// in 1991.
-**IOTL**: Allen's nearly-fatal accident severed his right arm and forced Leppard to take a break. Following producer "Mutt" Lange suffering a car crash of his own and a bout of the mumps suffered by singer Joe Elliott in 1986, //Hysteria// only came out in 1987. It sold 20 million copies and had four top ten hits, with "Love Bites" topping the Hot 100. Clark died in 1991 before being able to record //Adrenalize// in 1991. Def Leppard is still active in 2016.
+**IOTL**: Allen's nearly-fatal accident severed his right arm and forced Leppard to take a break. Following producer "Mutt" Lange suffering a car crash of his own and a bout of the mumps suffered by singer Joe Elliott in 1986, //Hysteria// only came out in 1987. It sold 20 million copies and had four top ten hits, with "Love Bites" topping the Hot 100. Clark died in 1991 before being able to record //Adrenalize// in 1991. Def Leppard is still active in 2016. The 1989 Grammy controversy had Jethro Tull as the winners, and The Recording Academy never nominated Def Leppard for anything.
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-German rock band Scorpions are huge, with "Rock You Like a Hurricane" hitting #1 and a cover of "Dust in the Wind" leading them to record an album of re-recordings, //Paralyzed//. One of the tracks, “Weekend in New England”, featured original artist Barry Manilow and led to the brief "lounge metal" craze. One festival they held, "Oktoberfest", featuring a lot of fellow "Krautrock" groups, is the landmark for big rock events.
+German rock band Scorpions are huge, with "Rock You Like a Hurricane" hitting #1 and a cover of "Dust in the Wind" leading them to record an album of re-recordings, //Paralyzed//. One of the tracks, “Weekend in New England”, featured original artist Barry Manilow and led to the brief "lounge metal" craze. One festival they organized, a traditional German Oktoberfest at the Meadowlands Complex in New Jersey featuring a lot of fellow "Krautrock" groups, sets a landmark for big rock events with indoor-outdoor festivals.
-**IOTL**: "Rock You Like a Hurricane" was #25, and Scorpions never had any cover album, only two albums with many versions in the 21st century. The big crossover cover featuring the original artist was Run-DMC and Aerosmith's "Walk This Way", leading to rap rock collaborations and resurrecting Steven Tyler's band. The big 1980s events were charity concerts and singles such as Live Aid and "We Are The World", both of whom don't exist ITTL.
+**IOTL**: "Rock You Like a Hurricane" was #25, and Scorpions never had any cover album, only two albums with many versions in the 21st century. The big crossover cover featuring the original artist was Run-DMC and Aerosmith's "Walk This Way", leading to rap rock collaborations and resurrecting Steven Tyler's band. The big 1980s events were charity concerts such as Live Aid, and singles such as "We Are The World" and "That's What Friends Are For", all of whom don't exist ITTL.
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+"Lounge metal" songs included  “The Bitch is Back” (Motley Crue ‎and Elton John), “Thank God I’m A Metal Boy” (Twisted Sister and John Denver), “You’re So ‎Vain” (Joan Jett and Carly Simon), and “You Don’t Mess Around With Jim” (Poison with a ‎remastered recording of the Jim Croce original).
+**IOTL**: Poison actually did cover "You Don't Mess Around With Jim," albeit terribly, in 2006 and 2007. Twisted Sister had one thing close to "lounge metal" in covering "Leader of the Pack". Joan Jett's //Good Music// album in 1986 doesn't exist ITTL.
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+Scorpions producer Dieter Dierks helps propel the careers of Portland metal band Black ‘n Blue, whose album he produced and went gold behind the strength of the singles “Hold On to 18” and “Chains Around Heaven”; and the British girl group Bananarama, who went to Dierks after leaving producers Jolley & Swain, and embraced a pop-metal in the late 80s, starting with a "lounge metal"-style cover of Shocking Blue's “Venus” that tops the Hot 100.
+**IOTL**: //Black ‘n Blue// only hit #129 in the Billboard 200, and the songs didn't chart. Bananarama decided to go for Stock Aitken Waterman after listening to Dead or Alive’s “You Spin Me Right Round,” and were converted from a self-conscious parody of pop-girl-groups into the full-fledged embodiment of everything they thought they were spoofing. It worked, as the S-A-W produced cover of "Venus" hit #1.
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 Run-DMC becomes a primarily rap rock group starting with 1986's //Louder than a Gunshot//, featuring guitarist Tony MacAlpine. The title track contains a sample of Chicago that raises plagiarism disputes. Jam Master Jay is still alive in most of the 2000s.
-**IOTL**: //Raising Hell// had their aforementioned "Walk this Way" cover, paving the way for more rap. The plagiarism is a reference to Vanilla Ice and Queen. JMJ was killed in 2002.
+**IOTL**: //Raising Hell// had their aforementioned "Walk this Way" cover, paving the way for more rap in mainstream radio. The plagiarism is a reference to Vanilla Ice and Queen. JMJ was killed in 2002.
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-[[timelines:television_dirty_laundry|Propelled by the good ratings of //Miami Vice//]], Don Johnson has a hit album with //No Easy Way Out//, the 11th best-selling record of 1986. It has two top 20 hits, the title track, which his friend Robert Tepper wrote for //Rocky IV// (#17), and "Lifeline" (#3). It remains his only record.
+[[timelines:television_dirty_laundry|Propelled by the good ratings of]] //Miami Vice//, Don Johnson has a hit album with //No Easy Way Out//, the 11th best-selling record of 1986. It has two top 20 hits, the title track, which his friend Robert Tepper wrote for //Rocky IV// (#17), and "Lifeline" (#3). It remains his only record.
 **IOTL**: Johnson had the 17th highest seller of that year with //Heartbeat//, whose title track shot to #5. The album is as cheesy as it sounds, and follow-up //Let It Roll// (1990) is considered somehow even worse. Tepper himself sung "No Easy Way Out", which charted at #22.
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+The [[timelines:film_dirty_laundry|hit movie //Top Gun//, starring Emilio Estevez]], features in its soundtrack REO Speedwagon’s “Highway to the Dangerzone”, Patty Smyth’s “Take My Breath Away,” and Van Halen's "Learning to Fly".
+**IOTL**:  REO Speedwagon was the second band to reject “Danger Zone” after Toto, being replaced with Kenny Loggins (that already had "Playing with the Boys" in the soundtrack). Berlin recorded "Take My Breath Away”, and broke up afterwards. "Learning to Fly" is TTL's version of "Dreams", one of the hits in Van Halen's //5150// album (which does not appear in //Top Gun//).
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+Laura Branigan tops the Hot 100 with the //Flashdance// song "Gloria", and the album that followed went platinum.
+**IOTL**: "Gloria" was held off the top spot by Lionel Richie and Toni Basil, at a certain point with #3 being... "Dirty Laundry". //Branigan 2// was certified gold.
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+Hit movies and TV shows dictate much of the charts in 1984-5. "Ghostbusters" is the top song of 1984. Stephanie Mills’s “Bit by Bit”, theme song for the [[timelines:film_dirty_laundry|1985's fourth biggest hit //Fletch//]],  peaks at #4, being her biggest hit ever. Rampage, the fictional-bad-boy-band led by Michael Bolton from the TV ‎show //Dreams//, has a #7 with "Everybody's Crazy".
+**IOTL**: "Ghostbusters" was #9, with the year's top song being the non-existent ITTL "When Doves Cry". "Bit by Bit" peaked at #78, with Mills still having her biggest success with “I ‎Never Knew Love Like This Before” in 1980 (#8). "Everybody's Crazy" was the title track of Bolton's last hard rock album, before he shifted to a successful AOR-oriented easy listening career.
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-Heart's self-titled album, released in 1985, continued the band's transition into mainstream hard rock, a genre that yielded the band its greatest commercial success. It had six hits, including “We Built This City / Rock and Roll", which started with a song by lyricist Bernie Taupin before launching into Heart's trademark cover of Led Zeppelin's "Rock N' Roll". "What About Love" features backing vocals of Grace Slick of Starship, which had a commercial failure with the album //Sara//.
+In 1985, Supertramp releases //In the Eye of the Storm//, source of the #7 hit "Sleeping with the Enemy".
-**IOTL**: //Heart// marks the band transition to mainstream rock, with five hit songs. "We Built This City" is a #1 hit for Starship (one of its lines named its platinum-selling album //Knee Deep In the Hoopla//), and is sometimes labeled the worst hit song ever.
+**IOTL**: Roger Hodgson had left Supertramp in 1983, and "Sleeping with the Enemy", a song he had been working on since 1982, was the lead single off his debut solo album //In the Eye of the Storm// (1984), reaching #48. In turn, the rest of the band released //Brother Where You Bound// in 1985, whose lead single "Cannonball" hit #28.
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 **IOTL**: Gilmour was the one who revived Pink Floyd, leading Waters to sue. In 1987 comes Pink Floyd's //A Momentary Lapse of Reason//, a smash hit, and Waters' solo album //Radio K.A.O.S.//, with barely any success. A year prior, Clapton had released his best-selling album *August*, source of "It's in the Way That You Use It".
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+Stevie Nicks only scores one Top 40 hit in her 1983 album //The Wild Heart//, "If Anyone Falls" (#14).
+**IOTL**: The album's lead single "Stand Back" hit #5, and Nicks wrote it after listening to Prince's "Little Red Corvette" (which never even cracked the top 10 ITTL). "Nightbird" also got to the top 40 (#33)
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+Former Go-Gos singer Belinda Carlisle tops the Billboard 200 with her album //Belinda//, source of two hit singles, “Mad About You” (#2) and “Follow Your Heart” (#4).
+**IOTL**: //Belinda// was #13, "Mad About You" was #3, and "Follow Your Heart" is the song Madonna would rewrite into "Open Your Heart".
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 Kurt Cobain is a successful actor\comedian, who had his big break in 1986, once Bobcat Goldthwait arranged him an appearance in //[[timelines:television_dirty_laundry|The Lost Episode]]//.
-**IOTL**: The above is barely plausible ([[offtopic:andrew_t|the author]] [[http://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/dirty-laundry-an-alternate-1980s.231820/page-3#post-6786516|not]] [[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showpost.php?p=6783148&postcount=9|liking]] Cobain's band helps). Even before the POD, Kurt was mostly interested in music. In 1986, Kurt was a poor 19 year old who had formed a band in December of the previous year, and didn't have any resources to leave Seattle - so him in California attempting an acting career is a stretch, specially as he only met the "connection" [[https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/rt79j/i_am_bobcat_goldthwait_ask_me_anything/c48gmz9/|Bobcat Goldthwait after forming Nirvana]].
+**IOTL**: The above is barely plausible ([[offtopic:andrew_t|the author]] [[http://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/dirty-laundry-an-alternate-1980s.231820/page-3#post-6786516|not]] [[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/1/post-6783148|liking]] Cobain's band helps). Even before the POD, Kurt was mostly interested in music. In 1986, Kurt was a poor 19 year old who had formed a band in December of the previous year, and didn't have any resources to leave Seattle - so him in California attempting an acting career is a stretch, specially as he only met the "connection" [[https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/rt79j/i_am_bobcat_goldthwait_ask_me_anything/c48gmz9/|Bobcat Goldthwait after forming Nirvana]].
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+Grammy Awards
+   *Album of the Year – Cyndi Lauper, //She’s So Unusual//
+   *Record of the Year – Bruce Springsteen, “Dancing in the Dark”
+   *Song of the Year – Phil Collins, “Against All Odds”
+   *Best New Artist – Cyndi Lauper
+   *Pop Female Vocalist – Cyndi Lauper, “Girls Just Want to Have Fun”
+   *Pop Male Vocalist – Phil Collins, “Against All Odds”
+   *Pop Vocal Group – The Cars, “Drive”
+   *Rock Female Vocalist – Tina Turner, “Better Be Good To Me”
+   *Rock Male Vocalist – Bruce Springsteen, “Dancing in the Dark”
+   *Rock Vocal Group – Van Halen, “Jump”
+**IOTL**:
+  *Album of the Year: //Can't Slow Down//, Lionel Richie
+  *Record of the Year\Song of the Year\Best Pop Vocal Performance, Female: Tina Turner, "What's Love Got To Do With It"
+  *Best Pop Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocal: The Pointer Sisters, "Jump (For My Love)"
+  *Best Rock Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocal: Prince And The Revolution, //Purple Rain//
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+Grammy Awards (OTL winner in bold unless specified):
+   * Album of the Year – Dire Straits, Brothers in Arms (over Motley Crue, Resurrection Day; Survivor, Vital Signs; Tears for Fears, Songs From the Big Chair; Bryan Adams, Reckless) (**IOTL**: Phil Collins, //No Jacket Required//)
+   * Record of the Year – Dire Straits, “Money For Nothing” (Scorpions/Barry Manilow, “Weekend in New England”; Bryan Adams, “Heaven”; Huey Lewis & The News, “The Power of Love”; Bruce Springsteen, “Born in the U.S.A.”)  (**IOTL**: USA for Africa, "We Are the World")
+  * Song of the Year – Mark Knopfler & Sting, “Money For Nothing” (Daryl Hall, “Every Time You Go Away”; Harold Faltermeyer and Keith Forsey, “The Heat Is On”; Frankie Sullivan and Jim Peterik, “The Search Is Over”; Bryan Adams and Jim Vallance, “Heaven”) (**IOTL**: USA for Africa, "We Are the World")
+   *Best New Artist – a-ha (Other nominees: The Power Station, Julian Lennon, The Honeydrippers, Yngwie Malmsteen) (**IOTL**: Sade)
+  *Best Pop Vocal Performance, Female – Tina Turner, “We Don’t Need Another Hero (Thunderdome)” (Other nominees: **Whitney Houston, “Saving All My Love For You”**; Pat Benatar, “We Belong”; Carly Simon, Spoiled Girl; Stephanie Mills, “Bit By Bit”)
+  *Best Pop Vocal Performance, Male – Bryan Adams, “Heaven” (Other nominees: Glenn Frey, “The Heat Is On”; Paul Young, “Every Time You Go Away”; Stevie Wonder, “Part-Time Lover”; **Phil Collins, //No Jacket Required//**)
+  *Best Pop Vocal Performance by a Duo or Group – Survivor, “The Search Is Over” (Other nominees: Foreigner, “I Want To Know What Love Is”; Philip Bailey & Phil Collins, “Easy Lover”; Huey Lewis & The News, “The Power of Love”; Mr. Mister, “Broken Wings”) (**IOTL**: USA for Africa, "We Are the World")
+  *Best Rock Vocal Performance, Female – Pat Benatar, “We Belong" (Other nominees: Teena Marie, “Lovergirl”; **Tina Turner, “One Of The Living”**; Nona Hendryx, “Rock This House”; Melba Moore, “Read My Lips”)
+  *Best Rock Vocal Performance, Male – Bryan Adams, Reckless (Other nominees: Glenn Frey, “You Belong to the City”; John Fogerty, “Centerfield”; John Cougar Mellencamp, Scarecrow; Murray Head, “One Night In Bangkok”) (**IOTL**: Don Henley, "The Boys of Summer")
+  *Best Rock Vocal Performance by a Duo or Group – Scorpions/Barry Manilow, “Weekend In New England” (Other nominees: **Dire Straits, “Money for Nothing”**; Heart, //Heart//; REO Speedwagon, //Wheels Are Turning//; Van Halen, //Starting At Zero//)
+  *Best Rock Instrumental – Yngwie Malmsteen, Rising Force (Other nominees: Scorpions, “Journey of the Sorceror”; Tears For Fears, “Broken”; **Jeff Beck, “Escape”**; Stevie Ray Vaughan & Double Trouble, “Say What!”)
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+Grammys
+Best Hard Rock/Metal Performance Vocal or Instrumental: Def Leppard's //Euphoria// over AC/DC’s //Heatseeker//, Metallica’s //…And Justice For All//, and the ‎runaway favorite, Motley Crue’s //Appetite for Destruction//.
+**IOTL**:  //Crest of a Knave// by Jethro Tull beat //Blow Up Your Video// by AC/DC, "Cold Metal" by Iggy Pop (from the album Instinct), //Nothing's Shocking// by Jane's Addiction,, and the favorite, Metallica's album.
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+Assorted cases:
+  * Marvin Gaye is not murdered by his own father, and re-records “Ain’t No Mountain High Enough” with Whitney Houston for //The Color Purple//. It is a #1 hit.
+  *  Since Robert Palmer’s //Riptide// album is essentially a Power Station album, they stay together for at least one more album, //Let's Make a Deal//.
+  *  Lita Ford and Tony Iommi never break up their engagement, making their collaboration album //The Bride Wore Black// actually get released. This also means that the ill-fated //Seventh Star// “Black Sabbath” album is never done.
+  * Without "We Are The World", Lionel Richie doesn't tinker //Dancing on the Ceiling// further and releases it under the original title //Say You, Say Me//.