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 ===== Points of Divergence : Islam ===== ===== Points of Divergence : Islam =====
  
-Islam is an Abrahamic faith related to [[Christianity]] and [[jews and judaism|Judaism]]. It was founded in the 7th century by Mohammed/Muhammad and spread quickly, both through conquest and missionary activity. Today, it is the world's second most followed religion. This page lists links to discussions about various potential points of divergence in the religion's history - some more plausible, some more far-fetched, but all of them interesting options for alternate developments of Islam and its interaction with other religions and predominantly non-Muslim OTL cultures.+Islam is an Abrahamic faith related to [[Christianity]] and [[jews and judaism|Judaism]]. It was founded in the 7th century by Mohammed/Muhammad and spread quickly, both through conquest and missionary activity. Today, it is the world's second most followed religion.  
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 +This page lists links to discussions about various potential points of divergence in the religion's history - some more plausible, some more far-fetched, but all of them interesting options for alternate developments of Islam and its interaction with other religions and predominantly non-Muslim OTL cultures.
  
  
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   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=339427|WI: Khosrau II captures/executes/assassinates Mohammed]]**   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=339427|WI: Khosrau II captures/executes/assassinates Mohammed]]**
   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=343325|World Religions without Islam]]**   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=343325|World Religions without Islam]]**
 +  * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=366750|Religions in a world where Islam never spreads]]**
   * Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them.   * Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them.
  
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-==== Islamic PODs ====+==== Development of Islam PODs ====
  
   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=95578|WI Islam was never founded ?]]**   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=95578|WI Islam was never founded ?]]**
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   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=87174|Weaker Islam]]**   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=87174|Weaker Islam]]**
   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=165263|How to keep Islam from growing ?]]**   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=165263|How to keep Islam from growing ?]]**
 +  * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=374349|Challenge: Caliph as an elected title, not hereditary]]**
   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=224041|WI Islam wasn't anti-alcohol ?]]**   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=224041|WI Islam wasn't anti-alcohol ?]]**
   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=60684|Alcohol-fueled Islam]]**   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=60684|Alcohol-fueled Islam]]**
   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=274255|Is it possible for the Caliph to become a position like the Pope (what PODs) ?]]**   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=274255|Is it possible for the Caliph to become a position like the Pope (what PODs) ?]]**
   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=212422|Islam without slavery]]**   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=212422|Islam without slavery]]**
 +  * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=362788|Khawarij caliphate starts after First civil war]]**
   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=231305|WI: North Africa without Islam]]**   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=231305|WI: North Africa without Islam]]**
   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=205177|Keeping Islam out of North Africa]]**   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=205177|Keeping Islam out of North Africa]]**
   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=152546|WI Islam loses North Africa and the Near East]]**   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=152546|WI Islam loses North Africa and the Near East]]**
 +  * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=375338|WI: Ahmad Ibn Hanbal dies in prison]]**
   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=165090|Challenge: Islam considered Christian (a part of Christianity)]]**   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=165090|Challenge: Islam considered Christian (a part of Christianity)]]**
 +  * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=371742|Challenge: Unite Christianity and Islam]]**
   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=38348|Could Christianity have flourished without Islam ?]]**   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=38348|Could Christianity have flourished without Islam ?]]**
   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=251037|WI Islam becomes a minority faith in its land of origin, but still widespread globally ?]]**   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=251037|WI Islam becomes a minority faith in its land of origin, but still widespread globally ?]]**
 +  * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/vatican-city-esque-states-for-medina-and-mecca.317693/|Vatican City-esque states for Medina and Mecca ?]]**
   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=238108|A more oriental Islam]]**   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=238108|A more oriental Islam]]**
   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=92468|Islam decides to ignore The Byzantines]]**   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=92468|Islam decides to ignore The Byzantines]]**
 +  * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=351126|Muslim civilisations without the Mongol invasions ?]]**
   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=232777|A Better High Middle Ages for Islam]]**   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=232777|A Better High Middle Ages for Islam]]**
   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=38374|When did Islam began to decline in its progresiveness ?]]**   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=38374|When did Islam began to decline in its progresiveness ?]]**
 +  * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=362575|Keeping the Islamic world and Islamic culture/science more vigorous]]**
 +  * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=372574|WI the office of Caliph still existed ?]]**
 +  * **[[http://digi20.digitale-sammlungen.de/de/fs1/object/display/bsb00048272_00001.html|Arabs win 718 at Constantinople AND 732 in France]]** (German)
   * Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them.   * Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them.
  
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   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=11542|Western Islam]]**   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=11542|Western Islam]]**
   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=12769|Roman Empire and Islam]]**   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=12769|Roman Empire and Islam]]**
 +  * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=320992|Challenge: Muslim Roman Empire]]**
   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=4304|Islam (or its close ATL analogue) vs. a Pagan Byzantine Empire]]**   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=4304|Islam (or its close ATL analogue) vs. a Pagan Byzantine Empire]]**
   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=163290|Greek Islam]]**   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=163290|Greek Islam]]**
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   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=130084|A Turkic Muslim Russia ?]]**   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=130084|A Turkic Muslim Russia ?]]**
   * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=72730&|More discussion on Russia becoming Muslim, this time focusing on Kazan]]**   * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=72730&|More discussion on Russia becoming Muslim, this time focusing on Kazan]]**
-  * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=272515|Plausibility check: Islamic Vikings ?]]**+  * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=37536|Plausibility check: Islamic Vikings/Norsemen ? (1)]]** 
 +  * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=272515|Plausibility check: Islamic Vikings/Norsemen (2)]]** 
 +  * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=355284|Challenge: Islamic Scandinavia by 1000 AD]]** 
 +  * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/england-becomes-muslim.10193/|Challenge: England becomes Muslim]]**
   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=162849|What if Vlad III. Tepes/Dracula converted to Islam ?]]**   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=162849|What if Vlad III. Tepes/Dracula converted to Islam ?]]**
-  * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=6018|Islam in Venice ?]]** 
   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=135733|Best POD for Islam in southern Italy ?]]**   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=135733|Best POD for Islam in southern Italy ?]]**
 +  * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=6018|Islam in Venice ?]]**
   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=173020|WI Persia doesn't convert to Shia Islam]]**   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=173020|WI Persia doesn't convert to Shia Islam]]**
   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=226117|Sinicized versions of Christianity or Islam gaining power in China ?]]**   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=226117|Sinicized versions of Christianity or Islam gaining power in China ?]]**
   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=201657|WI Tang Emperor Converted to Islam]]**   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=201657|WI Tang Emperor Converted to Islam]]**
-  * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=157802|Islam reaches Taiwan]]**+  * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/islam-reaches-taiwan.157802/|Islam reaches Taiwan (1)]]** 
 +  * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/challenge-muslim-taiwan.133529/|Islam reaches Taiwan (2)]]** 
 +  * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/if-taiwan-became-muslim.125290/|If Taiwan became Muslim]]**
   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=224185|An Islamic Japan]]**   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=224185|An Islamic Japan]]**
   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=162904|An Islamic Romania]]**   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=162904|An Islamic Romania]]**
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   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=54019|Largest possible monastic state ?]]**   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=54019|Largest possible monastic state ?]]**
   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=167687|Challenge: Islam, Buddhism, and Hinduism are world's only major religions]]**   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=167687|Challenge: Islam, Buddhism, and Hinduism are world's only major religions]]**
 +  * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/what-if-islam-was-as-old-as-christianity.405707/|WI Islam was as old as Christianity ?]]**
   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=8268|What would a modern world with no historical experience of Islam look/feel like ?]]**    * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=8268|What would a modern world with no historical experience of Islam look/feel like ?]]** 
 +  * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=354866|Without Islam, is technological development considerably hindered ?]]**
   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=131644|Islam remains illegal in Europe]]**   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=131644|Islam remains illegal in Europe]]**
   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=289388|A large conversion of nationality from Islam to a different religion]]**   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=289388|A large conversion of nationality from Islam to a different religion]]**
 +  * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/more-peaceful-co-existence-of-abrahamic-religions-in-iberia.153732/|More peaceful co-existence of Abrahamic religions in Iberia]]**
   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=247220|What could unite the Bedouins if not Islam ?]]**   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=247220|What could unite the Bedouins if not Islam ?]]**
   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=256832|WI: Islam vs. Manichaeism ?]]**   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=256832|WI: Islam vs. Manichaeism ?]]**
-  * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=265649|Plausibility check: Actual Islamic Fascism]]**+  * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=265649|Plausibility check: Actual Islamic Fascism (1)]]** 
 +  * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=233280|Plausibility check: Actual Islamic Fascism (2)]]**
   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=272321|Plausibility check: A policy capable of peacefully converting Muslims]]**   * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=272321|Plausibility check: A policy capable of peacefully converting Muslims]]**
 +  * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=314777|Plausibility check: Anything preventing the proper reestablishing of a caliphate ?]]**
 +  * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=316462|Effect on Islam if the Black Stone in the Kaaba shrine was devastated by a serious natural disaster (meteor strike, etc.) ?]]**
   * Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them.   * Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them.
  
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 ==== See Also ==== ==== See Also ====
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-**[[religions|Religious Points of Divergence]]** 
  
 **[[Christianity|Points of Divergence concerning Christianity]]** **[[Christianity|Points of Divergence concerning Christianity]]**
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 **[[pods:religions|Religious PODs Main Directory]]** **[[pods:religions|Religious PODs Main Directory]]**
  
-**[[pods/pods|Points of Divergence Main Directory]]** +**[[pods:pods|Points of Divergence Main Directory]]** 
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