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-===== Points of Divergence : Christianity ===== 
  
-Christianity is an Abrahamic faith related to [[jews and judaism|Judaism]] and [[Islam]]. Founded as an offshoot of Judaism by the followers of Jesus Christ, Christianity was given a firmer organizational structure during late Roman times. Christianity spread from its earliest days mainly via missionary activity (though more heavy-handed pro-Christian rulers did advance/​enforce it through conquest as well). Today, it is the world'​s most followed religion, and has had a huge influence on western civilization overall. ​ As such, the fact that PODs relating to it are popular, should come as no surprise. ​ 
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-This page lists links to discussions about various potential points of divergence in the religion'​s history - some more plausible, some more far-fetched,​ but all of them interesting options for alternate developments of Christianity and its interaction with other religions and predominantly non-Christian OTL cultures. 
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-==== PODs about Jesus ==== 
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-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=87071|No Jesus]]**  ​ 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=265184|WI Herod'​s men had caught the baby Jesus...]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=75645|Jesus not crucified discussion (1)]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=65920|Jesus not crucified discussion (2)]]** ​ 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=370217|Jesus not crucified discussion (3)]]** ​ 
-  * Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. 
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-==== Pre-Nicene PODs ==== 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=49758|No Christianity (1)]]** ​ 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=370646|No Christianity (2)]]** ​ 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=65303|No St. Paul]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=65679|Christianity stays within Judaism]]** ​ 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=65679|WI the Apostolic Synod of 49 AD chose a different path ?]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=256310|No Ireneaus of Lyon]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=145703|Early Christianity without state persecution]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=93959|The concept of the Trinity is not adopted]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=253513|Christianity bans pork]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=25918|Different Biblical canons]]** 
-  * **[[http://​alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=271883|A Bible limited to the Gospels]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=290043|Challenge:​ Christianity'​s main symbol is not the cross]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=3096|Christianity is not made the official Roman religion]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=367576|Religious developments in the Roman Empire without Christianity ?]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=361900|Challenge:​ Integrate Jesus into Roman Paganism]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=375228|Plausibility check: Christian exodus from the Roman Empire]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=370219|Development of Europe without Christianity as public religion ?]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=77978|Plausibility check: Foods banned in Christian-based civilisations]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=263329|Plausibility check: Emperor Constantine unites the empire under Mithraism ?]]** 
-  * Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. 
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-==== From the Council of Nicaea to the Reformation ==== 
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-  * **[[http://​alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=95928|WI Julian the Apostate survived (1)]]** 
-  * **[[http://​alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=64489|WI Julian the Apostate survived (2)]]** 
-  * **[[http://​alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=176772|WI Julian the Apostate survived (3)]]** 
-  * **[[http://​alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=211980|WI Julian the Apostate survived (4)]]** 
-  * **[[http://​alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=233013|WI Julian the Apostate survived (5)]]** 
-  * **[[http://​alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=262872|WI Julian the Apostate survived (6)]]** 
-  * **[[http://​alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=277371|WI Julian the Apostate survived (7)]]** 
-  * **[[http://​alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=177942|WI Julian the Apostate becomes a devout Christian]]** 
-  * **[[http://​alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=265235|Plausibility check: Roman paganism survives and thrives, the empire doesn'​t adopt Christianity]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=22428|Challenge:​ Coptic Church considered one of the major branches of Christianity]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=9754|WI Egypt stayed a majority Coptic Christian country ?]]** 
-  * **[[the vatican|Vatican (The Holy See) PODs]]** ​ 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=249476|Challenge:​ Popes as battlefield commanders]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=151363|Challenge:​ No Irish conversion to Christianity]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=138513|Challenge:​ Survival of the Celtic Church]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=92935|Celtic Church dominant in England]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=239194|Different developments of Celtic churches on the British Isles]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=58442|Muhammad is a Christian]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=38348|Could Christianity have flourished without Islam ?]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=152883|Challenge:​ A central Asian Christian empire (in the vein of the mythical Empire of Prester John)]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=262865|How to destroy the Papacy in the 11th Century ?]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=310844|Challenge:​ No Orthodox Christianity]]** 
-  * **[[pods:​the crusades|The Crusades PODs]]** 
-  * **[[http://​alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=125502|WI the unique Conclave of 1417 became the norm of Papal elections ?]]** 
-  * **[[http://​alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=213715|WI:​ Hussites triumphant]]** 
-  * **[[http://​alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=88552|WI:​ Ottomans decide that the Greek Patriarchate stays abolished]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=123045|Plausibility check: Different relations between Catholicism and Judaism]]** 
-  * Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. 
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-==== Reformation PODs ==== 
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-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=277535|WI:​ No Protestant Reformation In Europe]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=27291|WI Catholic church reforms and the Reformation is avoided]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=70452|No Reformation]]** ​ 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=257531|Challenge:​ Protestant Reformation More-Or-Less Shatters Catholicism]]** 
-  * **[[http://​alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=196557|Pope Martin Luther]]** 
-  * **[[http://​alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=170897|St. Martin Luther]]** 
-  * **[[http://​alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=188575|Luther assassinated after 95 Theses]]** 
-  * **[[http://​alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=150304|Luther reforms the Roman Church (1)]]** 
-  * **[[http://​alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=225914|Luther reforms the Roman Church (2)]]** 
-  * **[[http://​alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=111856|Martin Luther burned for heresy (1)]]** 
-  * **[[http://​alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=224324|Martin Luther burned for heresy (2)]]** 
-  * **[[http://​alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=113378|Henry VIII converts to Lutheranism]]** 
-  * **[[http://​alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=190074|Lutheran England]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=270864|WI:​ Pope Reginald Pole]]** 
-  * **[[http://​alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=130550|Protestant influence on Orthodoxy]]** 
-  * Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. 
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-  * //​**[[timelines:​A Dropped Pen]]**// - A TL using a simple POD where Luther stays a monk and the world sees a different reformation movement. 
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-==== Post-Reformation PODs ==== 
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-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​forum/​threads/​ahc-modern-unified-orthodox-balkan-nation-byzantine-revival.393019/​|Challenge:​ Modern Unified Orthodox Balkan Nation ("​Byzantine"​ revival)]]** 
-  * **[[https://​www.alternatehistory.com/​forum/​threads/​mormonism-without-death-of-joseph-smith.335351/​|Mormonism without the premature death of Joseph Smith]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=182139|WI:​ An Australian analogue of OTL Mormonism ?]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=247562|Challenge:​ A Christian "​Al-Qaeda"​]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=258814|Communism with Christianity ?]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=235804|Challenge:​ Orthodox-phobia instead of Islamophobia]]** 
-  * **[[the vatican|Vatican (The Holy See) PODs]]** 
-  * **[[https://​www.alternatehistory.com/​forum/​threads/​wi-first-vatican-council-continues.367441/​|WI First Vatican Council continues]]** 
-  * **[[https://​www.alternatehistory.com/​forum/​threads/​first-vatican-council-leads-to-germanic-church.171439/​|WI:​ First Vatican Council leads to a separate Germanic Church]]** 
-  * Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. 
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-==== OTL predominantly non-Christian countries and nations becoming mostly Christian ==== 
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-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=253892|A Christian Morocco since the early centuries of Christianity]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​forum/​threads/​christian-asia-pagan-europe.204899/​|Christian Asia, pagan Europe ?]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=272975|WI:​ Persia becomes Christian before Rome]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=7738|WI a Christian saint converted Persia prior to the Arab conquests?​]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=140836|Challenge:​ Christian Anatolia ?]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=180315|A Christian Mongol Empire]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​forum/​threads/​what-if-golden-horde-succesively-becomes-a-christian-orthodox-empire.262679/​|What if the Golden Horde succesively becomes a Christian Orthodox empire ?]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=56923|Discussion about Japan being converted to Catholicism]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=1320|More discussion on a potentially Christianised Japan]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=257394|WI Tokugawa Ieyasu converted to Christanity ?]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=65562|Challenge:​ A predominantly Christian Arab state]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=293809|Iranian Empire converts to Christianity instead of Rome ?]]** 
-  * **[[https://​www.alternatehistory.com/​forum/​threads/​wi-christian-brunei.194694/​|WI:​ Christian Brunei]]** 
-  * Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. 
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-==== Countries with a different predominant strand or church of Christianity in ATLs ==== 
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-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=291100|Challenge:​ Latin Patriarch of Moscow]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=182251|Challenge:​ A Catholic White Russia ?]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=197746|Plausibility check: Fully Catholic Eastern Europe ?]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=260079|Challenge:​ Predominantly Orthodox Christian Magyars and Poles]]** 
-  * **[[https://​www.alternatehistory.com/​forum/​threads/​wi-magyars-convert-to-orthodoxy.437795/​|WI:​ Magyars convert to Orthodoxy]]** 
-  * **[[https://​www.alternatehistory.com/​forum/​threads/​wi-orthodox-hungary.442327/​|WI:​ Orthodox Hungary]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​forum/​threads/​ah-challenge-orthodox-christian-sweden.147824/​|Challenge:​ Orthodox Christian Sweden (with a POD after 999 AD)]]** ​ 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=310703|Orthodox Lithuania]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=267408|Challenge:​ Orthodox conversion east of Rus]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=266690|Challenge:​ Lutheran Austrian Habsburgs]]** 
-  * **[[https://​www.alternatehistory.com/​forum/​threads/​catholic-brandenburg.445681/​|Catholic Brandenburg]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=201783|How do we get Poland to convert to Protestantism ?]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​forum/​threads/​wi-protestant-russia.202178/​|Protestant Russia]]** 
-  * Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. 
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-==== Various PODs ==== 
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-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=291846|Creationism WI: Adam and Eve don't eat the apple but some, not all, of their kids do]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=54019|Largest possible monastic state ?]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​forum/​threads/​more-peaceful-co-existence-of-abrahamic-religions-in-iberia.153732/​|More peaceful co-existence of Abrahamic religions in Iberia]]** 
-  * **[[https://​www.alternatehistory.com/​forum/​threads/​west-remains-theocratic-other-culture-s-leading-charge-for-humanism.372275/​|Plausibility check: West remains more theocratically inclined, other culture(s) leading charge for humanism as a philosophy ?]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=265215|Christmas PODs]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=135345|Challenge:​ Patron Saint of Democracy]]** 
-  * **[[https://​www.alternatehistory.com/​forum/​threads/​ahc-alternate-saints.416378/​|AHC:​ Alternate Saints]]** 
-  * **[[http://​www.alternatehistory.com/​discussion/​showthread.php?​t=343325|World Religions without Islam]]** 
-  * Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them.  
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-==== See Also ==== 
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-**[[Islam|Points of Divergence concerning Islam]]** 
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-**[[jews and judaism|Points of Divergence concerning Judaism and Jews]]** 
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-**[[buddhism|Points of Divergence concerning Buddhism]]** 
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-**[[hinduism|Points of Divergence concerning Hinduism]]** 
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-**[[Various other religions|Points of Divergence concerning various other religions]]** 
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-**[[indigenous religions|Points of Divergence concerning indigenous religions]]** 
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