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 == Otto Basil ==
- Wenn das der Führer wüsste (Hitler wins WW2 and rules over the whole world, except for East Asia)
+ Wenn das der Führer wüsste (Hitler wins WW2 and rules over the whole world, except for Japan's East Asian sphere)
 == Christian von Ditfurth ==
- Die Mauer steht am Rhein: Deutschland nach dem Sieg des Sozialismus (Gorbachev is toppled, the FRG forced to join the GDR)\\
+(who also happens to be the author of "German History for Dummies")
- Der 21. Juli (Stauffenberg manages to kill Hitler - and the conspirators manage to take power by allying with Himmler, of all people.)\\
- Der Consul (The NSDAP loses the elections of November 1932 - but why is Hitler battered to death soon afterwards, and why do Goebbels, Röhm and Strasser die as well?)\\
+ Die Mauer steht am Rhein: Deutschland nach dem Sieg des Sozialismus (Gorbachev is toppled in 1988, the FRG forced to join the GDR. And many westerners incl. politicians become willing collaborators.)\\
- Das Rosa Luxemburg-Komplott (yes, the Communist revolution in Germany of 1919 is successful. And Lenin meddles too.)
+ Der 21. Juli (Stauffenberg manages to kill Hitler - and the conspirators manage to take power by allying with Himmler and Göring, of all people. Then, Germany starts to work on nuclear weapons...)\\
+ Der Consul (The NSDAP loses the elections of November 1932 - but why is Hitler battered to death soon afterwards, and why do Goebbels, Röhm and Strasser die as well? Then, a civil war breaks out...)\\
+ Das Luxemburg-Komplott (Yes, the Communist revolution in Germany of 1919 is successful. And Lenin meddles too. And what is the Reichswehr doing?)
 == Wolfgang Jeschke ==
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 == Andreas Eschbach ==
  NSA - Nationales Sicherheits-Amt (Computers have been around since Charles Babbage, so the Weimar Republic establishes the titular NSA to watch the Weltnetz, the new computer network. But the nazis abuse the new technology...)
+== Timur Vermes ==
+ Er ist wieder da (Adolf Hitler awakes on August 30th 2011 in Berlin.)
 == Thomas Ziegler ==
-Die Stimmen der Nacht (The US deploy nukes earlier, i.e. on Berlin while the war is going on. The Morgenthau plan is implemented, 20 million Germans emigrate to South America... eventually taking over the whole continent.)
+ Die Stimmen der Nacht (The US deploy nukes earlier, i.e. on Berlin while the war is going on. The Morgenthau plan is implemented, 20 million Germans emigrate to South America... eventually taking over the whole continent.)
+== Hannes Stein ==
+ Der Komet (After the first bomb was thrown on Franz Ferdinand of A-H in Sarajevo, he decides "I'm not a fool, I'll go home again", World War I is cancelled. Monarchs reign everywhere in Europe, even the Ottoman Empire hasn't fallen. The US stay a backward country full of cowboys, gold diggers, and rednecks - Vienna is the center of the world, full of Jews, psychoanalysts, and irony. Here, in the 21st century, protagonist Alexei starts a liaison with a society lady - Barbara Gottlieb, despite the name Sephardic - whose husband is very far away, but sending uncalming news. Part of the novel are also set on the Moon, of all places.)
 == Simon Urban ==
-Plan D (The GDR survives until the present of 2011. An eastern German policeman has to solve a complicated case involving politics.)
+ Plan D (The GDR survives until the present of 2011. An eastern German policeman and his western colleague have to solve a complicated case involving politics.)
 == Siegfried Langer ==
-Alles bleibt anders: A man who lost his memory (named Frank Miller) finds himself in Berlin of the year 2008 -- but it's a very old-timey Berlin where both World Wars never seemed to have happened.
+ Alles bleibt anders: A man who lost his memory (named Frank Miller) finds himself in Berlin of the year 2008 -- but it's a very old-timey Berlin where both World Wars never seemed to have happened.
 == Dirk van den Boom ==
-Kaiserkrieger: Shortly before WW1 will break out, the light cruiser "Saarbrücken" (Bremen class) of the Kriegsmarine is [[ISoT]]ed back to the year 378 -- when the Goths are attacking what's left of the Roman Empire. The men decide to help the western Roman emperor...
+ Kaiserkrieger: Shortly before WW1 will break out, the light cruiser "Saarbrücken" (Bremen class) of the Kriegsmarine is [[ISoT]]ed back to the year 378 -- when the Goths are attacking what's left of the Roman Empire. The men decide to help the western Roman emperor...
 == Jens Bühler ==
-Der letzte Wohnsitz Gottes: A German nuke destroys Moscow in winter 1943. Hitler died in 1944, and the war ends. A Cold War follows. But in 1981, the SS officer Lenzer has to keep a dangerous secret.
+ Der letzte Wohnsitz Gottes: A German nuke destroys Moscow in winter 1943. Hitler died in 1944, and the war ends. A Cold War follows. But in 1981, the SS officer Lenzer has to keep a dangerous secret.
 == Oliver Henkel ==
-Im Jahre Ragnarök: After Hitler lost WW2, Germany was divided in a different way (because of Stalin's death in February 1945) -- the Rhineland became the Rhenish republic, a French satellite under president Adenauer. OTL GDR is divided between Britain and the US. A Morgenthau plan was implemented in Germany. The Soviet Union broke down, warlords fight each other on its former territory. Even in 1962, India is still British. Chiang Kai-shek is holding out in China, although he has barely more than the coast under control. Many Brits hate their "rich uncle", the US.
+ Im Jahre Ragnarök: After Hitler lost WW2, Germany was divided in a different way (because of Stalin's death in February 1945) -- the Rhineland became the Rhenish republic, a French satellite under president Adenauer. OTL GDR is divided between Britain and the US. A Morgenthau plan was implemented in Germany. The Soviet Union broke down, warlords fight each other on its former territory. Even in 1962, India is still British. Chiang Kai-shek is holding out in China, although he has barely more than the coast under control. Many Brits hate their "rich uncle", the US.
-Kaisertag: Franz Ferdinand wasn't shot in Sarajevo, A-H is reformed, WW1 doesn't happen. In 1988, private detective Friedrich Prieß has to solve the case of a murder of a colonel of the powerful RMA secret service.
+ Kaisertag: Franz Ferdinand wasn't shot in Sarajevo, A-H is reformed, WW1 doesn't happen. In 1988, private detective Friedrich Prieß has to solve the case of a murder of a colonel of the powerful RMA secret service.
-Die Zeitmaschine Karls des Großen: The Western Romans under a Rufus Scorpio defeat the Ostrogoths under Odoacer and Theoderich, the Western Roman Empire survives, although Gallia is lost to the Franks. But more than three centuries later, a Frankish king named Charles declares himself emperor...
+ Die Zeitmaschine Karls des Großen: The Western Romans under a Rufus Scorpio defeat the Ostrogoths under Odoacer and Theoderich, the Western Roman Empire survives, although Gallia is lost to the Franks. But more than three centuries later, a Frankish king named Charles declares himself emperor...
-Wechselwelten: Seven journeys into worlds, which almost could have existed.
+ Wechselwelten: Seven journeys into worlds, which almost could have existed.
   * "Ein neunter Oktober" deals with the revolution in Eastern Germany 1989. Erich Mielke orders shooting the peaceful demonstrators.
-  * "Der Adler ist gelandet" geht der Frage nach, what'd have happened, if Christopher Columbus hadn't sailed to America under the Spanish flag. A merchant from Lübeck meets Columbus...
+  * "Der Adler ist gelandet" researches the question what'd have happened if Christopher Columbus hadn't sailed to America under the Spanish flag. A merchant from Lübeck meets Columbus...
   * In "...auf dass er die Menschen erlöse" we meet Jesus and Pontius Pilate. There's a surprise witness for the defense.
   * "Kalifornia Dreaming" has a connection of Goebbels and Walt Disney: It's about a Disney theme park in the Greater German Reich.
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   * "Do you speak English?"
+**Wenn Hitler den Krieg gewonnen hätte** (1989) by Ralph Giordano is non-fiction, but gets a honorable mention. It is a must read for anyone wanting to write a Nazi victory timeline. Mostly based on history books by Andreas Hillgruber and Klaus Hildebrand.
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