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offtopic:armenian_genocide [2021/04/23 22:34] (current)
rognvald This page was a relic of a bygone, disrespectful time in AH.com history. I have removed the flippant treatment of this serious subject, and updated this page accordingly.
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|-||======Armenian... errr....======||+||======Armenian Genocide======|
|-||Well... not really a genocide... or is it? Or is it illegal if I claim it is no genocide? Will Abdul flip out if it is called genocide?||+||During the First World War, the Ottoman Turks systematically attempted to wipe out the large Armenian population in their territory. Around a million ethnic Armenians were murdered by starvation, exhaustion, or more direct methods. This tragedy is still denied by the Turkish government as of 2021, despite clear historical evidence.|
|-||This topic has often hotly been debated on AH.com, and the name of it is itself part of the discussion. The question is whether there was a genocide committed by the Ottomans against the Armenians or whether it was an ethnic cleansing done due to the war (the First World War was going on) and advancing Russian troops (with whom many Armenians sympathized). On the [[offtopic:Old Board]], [[offtopic:Rafi Issoghlian]] and [[offtopic:Abdul Hadi Pasha]] argued very tensely over this, the former taking the Armenian, the latter taking the Turkish position. Which coincided with their respective nationality/descent. Purely coincidence, I assure you!||+||In the early days of ah.com, a few members on the board held the “party line” of Turkey and aggressively denied that the genocide took place. Their vociferous denials, despite the heinous subject material, led to the phrase “Armenian Genocide” to be adopted as an “in-joke” by other board members. The term lost its power as a stark reminder of a brutal and evil act of history and was reduced to near meme status and used in flippant, disrespectful ways.|
|-||Although Rafi did join the new board, he rarely posted on it, yet the issue remained in the collective memory of the board, and when brought up is still sure to draw a very angry response by Abdul. Hence, whenever it does come up, posts by other members are usually along the lines of "*dons flameproof suit*" or "*heads for the nearest bunker*".||+||Since the early 2010s, however, this practice has stopped. Denial of the Armenian Genocide, as with the Holocaust, Holodomor, and other historical mass killings, will lead to an instant ban. The term’s usage has been restored to match the seriousness of the subject, and is never to be used in a “jokey” context.|
|-||The Armenian 'Thing' is also strongly associated with [[Wikipedia]]. According to Nek, the aforementioned infallible online encyclopaedia records that Britain would have lost the Battle of Trafalgar were it not for the intervention of their gallant Armenian allies aboard the flagship AMS //Genocide// - a factoid that was, of course, cruelly expunged from the history books by the evil Turks. One might also quote from [[Wikipedia]] and refer to it as "The Armenian Genocide" or say, "Well, according to the Armenian Genocide..."||+||This page remains as a testament that AH.com has not been a perfect community. It failed to live up to its own standards for years. We can only hope that we continue to improve as a website culture in the years to come.|
|-||Due to its mocking use on AH.com, the term has become so watered down that it is now used in any context involving Armenians. For example, in the Eurovision Song Contest 2008 Armenia was represented by an attractive female singer, and there were several comments along the lines of 'I'd like to genocide her...'||+|
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