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* All attempts to reconstruct Zheng He's treasure ships have suggested that the size may have been exaggerated, as they tend to collapse under the sea pressure. Only one-quarter-scale models have been successfully built. This has led to a running joke that 'the Chinese invented Stardestroyer.net', as there are similar size controversies on that site about the Star Destroyers in Star Wars. | * All attempts to reconstruct Zheng He's treasure ships have suggested that the size may have been exaggerated, as they tend to collapse under the sea pressure. Only one-quarter-scale models have been successfully built. This has led to a running joke that 'the Chinese invented Stardestroyer.net', as there are similar size controversies on that site about the Star Destroyers in Star Wars. |
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* Some historians claim that Zheng He discovered [[offtopic:California]] in 1435. However, if this is so, he then evidently decided to turn around and forget about it. Understandable if you've ever been to LA. He did like the Chinese food though. | * Some bold pseudohistory peddlers (Gavin Menzies, cough) claim that Zheng He discovered [[offtopic:California]] in 1435. However, if this is so, he then evidently decided to turn around and forget about it. Understandable if you've ever been to LA. He did like the Chinese food though. |
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| * According to [[offtopic:Hendryk]], if Zheng He was [[ISOT|ISOTed]] to nowadays, he would be banged up in Guantanamo Bay for being a Muslim working for the Chinese government, who had visited Islamic ports across the Indian Ocean, and attempting to map the American coast. Clearly highly suspicious. |
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| * Ming dynasty China had no interest in European-style overseas colonialism, so the idea of Zheng He or even the emperor at the time just itching to discover a new landmass and start sending eager colonists there goes completely against Chinese politics of that era. |
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| ==== Links to debunkings of sensationalist claims related to Zheng He ==== |
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| **[[https://maritimeasia.ws/topic/1421bunkum.html|Popular History and Bunkum: The book '1421, The Year China Discovered America' is a fairytale and a fiction]]** - Review of Gavin Menzies' infamous book claiming that Zheng He explored all of the Americas and the Chinese had a knowledge of the entire globe in the 1400s. |
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| **[[https://www.christopherculver.com/languages/1421-the-year-china-provided-grist-for-crackpottery.html|Gavin Menzies’ 1421: The year China provided grist for crackpottery]]** - Review of Gavin Menzies' infamous book //1421// by linguist Christopher Culver. |
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| ==== In AH.com Fiction ==== |
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| Several timelines on AH.com (e.g. //**[[timelines:Amerindian Arbalists]]**//, etc.) poke fun at these pseudohistorical claims, as they often seem to have in-universe fans even in alternate timelines. |
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* According to [[offtopic:Hendryk]], if Zheng He was [[ISOT]]ed to nowadays, he would be banged up in Guantanamo Bay for being a Muslim working for the Chinese government, who had visited Islamic ports across the Indian Ocean, and attempting to map the American coast. Clearly highly suspicious. | |
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