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| ==== Responses to this cliché by AH.commers ==== | ==== Responses to this cliché by AH.commers ==== |
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| Summed up by [[offtopic:Petike]] [[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showpost.php?p=5130422&postcount=527|in this post]] : | Summed up by [[offtopic:Petike]] [[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/1/post-5130422|in this post]] : |
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| //"[[Nothing ever happens in South America]], Africa, etc. But... Bizzarely, nothing ever happens in Switzerland either - since 99,9 % of all TLs just turn it into an unchanging and uninvadable Space Filling Statelet. It kind of just exists in its own separate pocket universe, even though every AH map of Europe will trick you into thinking it actually might have some ties to historical processes, whether positive, negative or neutral. And don't you ever dare to redraw its sacred unchanging borders - that's a major no-no !!!"// | //"[[Nothing ever happens in South America]], Africa, etc. But... Bizzarely, nothing ever happens in Switzerland either - since 99,9 % of all TLs just turn it into an unchanging and uninvadable Space Filling Statelet. It kind of just exists in its own separate pocket universe, even though every AH map of Europe will trick you into thinking it actually might have some ties to historical processes, whether positive, negative or neutral. And don't you ever dare to redraw its sacred unchanging borders - that's a major no-no !!!"// |
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| [[offtopic:Beedok]] responded to the "Switzerland as a pocket universe" sentence [[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showpost.php?p=5130494&postcount=528| | [[offtopic:Beedok]] responded to the "Switzerland as a pocket universe" sentence [[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/1/post-5130494|with the following witticism]] : |
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| //"That explains the neutrinos."// | //"That explains the neutrinos."// |
| [[offtopic:Thande]] took a more matter-of-fact stance in the [[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=166278|Allohistorical Convergence Pet Peeves thread]] : | [[offtopic:Thande]] took a more matter-of-fact stance in the [[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=166278|Allohistorical Convergence Pet Peeves thread]] : |
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| //"Switzerland. Despite its reputation for staying exactly the same, Switzerland in fact added several additional cantons in OTL at the Congress of Vienna in 1815. [[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showpost.php?p=6807803&postcount=3136|Maps with PODs before the Napoleonic Wars should bear this in mind.]]"// | //"Switzerland. Despite its reputation for staying exactly the same, Switzerland in fact added several additional cantons in OTL at the Congress of Vienna in 1815. [[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/1/post-6807803|Maps with PODs before the Napoleonic Wars should bear this in mind.]]"// |
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| * [[offtopic:maverick]]'s older //**[[timelines:The Fallen Prince]]**// TL averted this a lot. | * [[offtopic:maverick]]'s older //**[[timelines:The Fallen Prince]]**// TL averted this a lot. |
| * A more [[ASB]] take on this was [[offtopic:crackersncheese]]'s older **//[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=109126|Blasters of the Swiss : A Wank]]//** TL, in which - you guessed it - the Swiss receive //Star Wars// military technology during the early 20th century. | * A more [[ASB]] take on this was [[offtopic:crackersncheese]]'s older **//[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=109126|Blasters of the Swiss : A Wank]]//** TL, in which - you guessed it - the Swiss receive //Star Wars// military technology during the early 20th century. |
| * Though what's going on in Switzerland is not explicitly shown in [[offtopic:Zach]]'s //**[[timelines:Pax Napoleonica]]**//, the maps of Europe from that TL display the Swiss borders with one major difference: Geneva and its surrounding francophone cantons have been annexed/bought off by Napoleonic France. Also, the author has [[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showpost.php?p=6316520&postcount=740|recently mentioned]] that he'd like to flesh out the country's ATL standing a bit more in additional updates or small retcons. | * Though what's going on in Switzerland is not explicitly shown in [[offtopic:Zach]]'s //**[[timelines:Pax Napoleonica]]**//, the maps of Europe from that TL display the Swiss borders with one major difference: Geneva and its surrounding francophone cantons have been annexed/bought off by Napoleonic France. Also, the author has [[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/1/post-6316520|recently mentioned]] that he'd like to flesh out the country's ATL standing a bit more in additional updates or small retcons. |
| * [[offtopic:Kaiser K]]'s TL, //**The Reverse Cold War**// avoids this heavily, as during the TL's Alternate World War II, Switzerland is invaded by France, which invades up the Swiss Plateau from both sides, it loses in 2 months and capitulates to the Axis in early 1943, being partitioned between France, Italy, and the French puppet state along the Rhine, the "Rhineish Republic" | * [[offtopic:Kaiser K]]'s TL, //**The Reverse Cold War**// avoids this heavily, as during the TL's Alternate World War II, Switzerland is invaded by France, which invades up the Swiss Plateau from both sides, it loses in 2 months and capitulates to the Axis in early 1943, being partitioned between France, Italy, and the French puppet state along the Rhine, the "Rhineish Republic" |
| * In [[offtopic:Max Sinister]]'s //**[[timelines:Chaos]]**// TL, Switzerland is more powerful - it annexes most of what became Baden-Württemberg IOTL - but stays a part of Germany, and is even occupied by Russians and Italians in TTL's World War 2, although there is a fierce resistance in the Alps. | * In [[offtopic:Max Sinister]]'s //**[[timelines:Chaos]]**// TL, Switzerland is more powerful - it annexes most of what became Baden-Württemberg IOTL - but stays a part of Germany, and is even occupied by Russians and Italians in TTL's World War 2, although there is a fierce resistance in the Alps. |
| * In [[offtopic:Jared]]'s //**[[timelines:Decades of Darkness]]**//, Switzerland becomes a kingdom, of all things, because [[offtopic:Saxony]] is annexed by [[offtopic:Prussia]] and its king needs a new country... even later, parts of Switzerland are split off and given to other German princes! | * In [[offtopic:Jared]]'s //**[[timelines:Decades of Darkness]]**//, Switzerland becomes a kingdom, of all things, because [[offtopic:Saxony]] is annexed by [[offtopic:Prussia]] and its king needs a new country... even later, parts of Switzerland are split off and given to other German princes! |
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