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 Our member [[offtopic:ninebucks]] is the one who coined the famous nickname for this cliché, quipping : **//"Let's play Pin the Zion on the Eurasia...//"** Note that, despite the name, Patagonia, Alaska and Australia are also popular destinations. Here's a list of territories and countries commonly suggested as alternate Israels by fans of alternate history: Our member [[offtopic:ninebucks]] is the one who coined the famous nickname for this cliché, quipping : **//"Let's play Pin the Zion on the Eurasia...//"** Note that, despite the name, Patagonia, Alaska and Australia are also popular destinations. Here's a list of territories and countries commonly suggested as alternate Israels by fans of alternate history:
-  * **[[offtopic:Alaska]]** - Based [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slattery_Report|on a plan presented in OTL]] to allow the widespread immigration of Jewish refugees from Hitler's Germany into the then-US territory. The success of this plan forms the foundation for Michael Chabon's AH novel //The Yiddish Policemen's Union//.+  * **[[offtopic:Alaska]]** (panhandle) - Based [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slattery_Report|on a plan presented in OTL]] to allow the widespread immigration of Jewish refugees from Hitler's Germany into the then-US territory. The success of this plan forms the foundation for Michael Chabon's AH novel //The Yiddish Policemen's Union//.
   * **The Baltic Sea coast**   * **The Baltic Sea coast**
   * **[[offtopic:Crimea]]** - Occurs in [[offtopic:Thande]]'s //**[[timelines:Look to the West]]**//.   * **[[offtopic:Crimea]]** - Occurs in [[offtopic:Thande]]'s //**[[timelines:Look to the West]]**//.
   * **Far-Eastern [[offtopic:Russia]]** - Another proposal that existed in OTL, leading to the Jewish Autonomous Oblast, aka Birobidzhan, but was never a very popular idea to begin with.   * **Far-Eastern [[offtopic:Russia]]** - Another proposal that existed in OTL, leading to the Jewish Autonomous Oblast, aka Birobidzhan, but was never a very popular idea to begin with.
   * **[[offtopic:Florida]]**   * **[[offtopic:Florida]]**
-  * **[[offtopic:Madagascar]]** - Actually one of the British proposals //in OTL//. It was also part of an early plan by some elements in Nazi Germany as a place of resettlement for all of the Jews of Europe. Madagascar is the subject to   large numbers of Jewish immigrants in the online timeline "Italian Surge," as well as yet another Jewish nation (New Israel) in [[offtopic:Tony Jones]]' //**[[timelines:Cliveless World]]**//+  * **[[offtopic:Madagascar]]** - Actually one of the British proposals //in OTL//. It was also part of an early plan by some elements in Nazi Germany as a place of resettlement for all of the Jews of Europe. Madagascar is the subject to large numbers of Jewish immigrants in the online timeline "Italian Surge," as well as yet another Jewish nation (New Israel) in [[offtopic:Tony Jones]]' //**[[timelines:Cliveless World]]**//. Also in //The Separation// by Christopher Priest, called Masada
-  * **[[offtopic:China|Manchuria]]** - Based on OTL's [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugu_plan|Fugu Plan]], which was drawn up by the Japanese during World War II to import 10,000-600,000 "unwanted" Jews from Nazi-occupied Europe to settle in Manchuria, where they would work for the glory of the Japanese Empire; the Plan was notorious for being linked to the anti-Semitic work of fiction //The Protocols of the Elders of Zion//, which some elements in the Japanese government naively assumed meant that the Jews, if exploited properly, would contribute greatly to Japan's economic and geopolitical prowess.+  * **[[offtopic:China|Manchuria]]** - Based on OTL's [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugu_plan|Fugu Plan]], which was drawn up by the Japanese during World War II to import 10,000-600,000 "unwanted" Jews from Nazi-occupied Europe to settle in Manchuria, where they would work for the glory of the Japanese Empire; the Plan was notorious for being linked to the anti-Semitic work of fiction //The Protocols of the Elders of Zion//, which some elements in the Japanese government naively assumed meant that the Jews, if exploited properly, would contribute greatly to Japan's economic and geopolitical prowess.
   * **[[offtopic:New Zealand]]** - Occurs in //**[[timelines:To A Place You Do Not Know]]**//, although this is due to ASB interference. Also, New Zealand in this timeline is the //original// Jewish homeland instead of Canaan.   * **[[offtopic:New Zealand]]** - Occurs in //**[[timelines:To A Place You Do Not Know]]**//, although this is due to ASB interference. Also, New Zealand in this timeline is the //original// Jewish homeland instead of Canaan.
   * **[[offtopic:Argentina|Patagonia]]**   * **[[offtopic:Argentina|Patagonia]]**
-  * **Sinai** - in the [[timelines:Chaos]] TL. See, a Napoleon analogue gave the Jews a homeland, but since the original settlers insisted that Zion proper wasn't supposed to be entered untilt eh messiah came, he took the next-best place.+  * **Sinai** - in the [[timelines:Chaos]] TL. See, a Napoleon analogue gave the Jews a homeland, but since the original settlers insisted that Zion proper wasn't supposed to be entered until the messiah came, he took the next-best place.
   * **[[offtopic:Tasmania]]**   * **[[offtopic:Tasmania]]**
   * **[[offtopic:Texas]]** - Likely based on OTL efforts by a Jewish territorialist organization in the early 20th century to encourage large numbers of Jewish migrants to come to Texas. Texas is the setting for an alternate Israel in [[offtopic:Tony Jones]]' //**[[timelines:Cliveless World]]**//.   * **[[offtopic:Texas]]** - Likely based on OTL efforts by a Jewish territorialist organization in the early 20th century to encourage large numbers of Jewish migrants to come to Texas. Texas is the setting for an alternate Israel in [[offtopic:Tony Jones]]' //**[[timelines:Cliveless World]]**//.
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   * **[[offtopic:Western Australia]]** - The idea is used by [[offtopic:EdT]] in //**[[timelines:Fight and Be Right]]**//. This alternate Israel becomes known as "Altneuland"   * **[[offtopic:Western Australia]]** - The idea is used by [[offtopic:EdT]] in //**[[timelines:Fight and Be Right]]**//. This alternate Israel becomes known as "Altneuland"
  
-A list of some further [[OTL]] proposals can be seen [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_a_Jewish_state|here]].+A list of some further [[OTL]] proposals can be seen [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_a_Jewish_state|here]].
  
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