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--- alternate_history:alternate_history_cliches [2014/05/24 18:15] – Petike
+++ alternate_history:alternate_history_cliches [2023/09/30 21:16] (current) – [A List of the Most Common AH Cliches] max_sinister
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 **Important note**: Not all of the concepts or plots listed here are total clichés themselves ! While most are, many are just good ideas (e. g. a surviving independent British space/aviation industry), [[historical misconceptions|marred by the same old unresearched assumptions of AH authors]]. Others are tolerable (e. g. alternate Israels, the greater proliferation or survival of airships/battleships than in our history, etc.), but can easily be written badly or be overdone to the point of irrelevance... Or worse - making the reader bored.
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 ==== A List of the Most Common AH Cliches ====
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   * **[[alternate history:Deseret]]**
-  * **The Deutsches Reich Imperial European Union**: In a world where the Central Powers have won [[pods:WWI]], it's nigh impossible to not have a German-led Zollverein in Europe, that will - of course - exclude Britain and France.
+  * **[[Central Powers Victory Clichés|The Deutsches Reich Imperial European Union]]**
   * **[[alternate history:Disunited Germany]]**
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   * **[[alternate history:Disunited Italy]]**
-  * **Everybody loves eugenics**: An easy, lazy way to paint an scenario as dystopic if one [[alternate_history/butterfly effect|keeps butterflying]] real historical genocides and massacres away.
+  * **Everybody loves eugenics**: An easy, lazy way to paint an scenario as dystopic if one [[alternate_history:butterfly effect|keeps butterflying]] real historical genocides and massacres away.
-  * **Exiled royals go to the colonies**: Wherein the home country in Europe is invaded, possibly by the French, and the royals have to go to the Colonies and continue from then on; inspired by the exile of the Braganzas to Brazil between 1808 and 1822 after the Napoleonic invasion of Portugal in 1808.
+  * **[[alternate history:Exiled royals go to the colonies]]**
   * **[[alternate history:German techwank]]**
   * **[[alternate history:Halifax the surrender monkey]]**
+  * **[[alternate history:Nazis win, Heydrich survives]]**
   * **Nazi Argentina**: The idea that Argentina was crawling with Nazi sympathizers to the degree in which they could take power and join the Axis at any given moment just because the author says so.
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   * **[[alternate history:Pendulum Fallacy]]**: The idea that if a country/religion/ideology etc loses territory it has in [[OTL]], it has to gain territory elsewhere to compensate.
-  * **[[Alternate Israels|Pin the Zion on the Eurasia]]** (**[[Alternate Israels]]** based in overly weird places)
+  * **[[Alternate Israels|Pin the Zion on the Eurasia]]** ([[Alternate Israels]] based in overly weird places)
   * **[[alternate history:Premodern Japan as a great power]]**
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   * **[[alternate history:Stupidly-named Italy]]**
+  * **[[alternate history:Surviving culture as a wholesale stereotype]]**
   * **[[alternate history:That damned Kazakh border]]**
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   * **[[alternate history:Afrikaners#Villainous Afrikaners]]**
+  * **[[alternate history:Vinland colony]]**
   * **[[alternate history:WWI and WWII must always occur]]**
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   * **[[alternate history:Zheng He]]**
-====See Also====
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-**[[alternate history:Historical Misconceptions]]**
+==== AH.com discussions on alternate history clichés ====
-**[[alternate history:FH Clichés|Future History Clichés]]**
 **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=9228&highlight=clich%E9s+rules|The "Rules/Clichés of AH" thread (a.k.a. The Grand List of AH clichés)]]**
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 **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=51839|Another round of AH clichés]]**
+**[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/xx-xxi-century-alternate-history-clich%C3%A9s.418525/|20th-21st century alternate history clichés]]**
 **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=254707|What annoys you in TLs ?]]**
+**[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/alternate-history-cliches-that-annoy-you.458615/|Alternate history clichés that annoy you]]**
 **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=297216|Things you dislike about alternate history]]**
+**[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=356977|AH clichés that are inevitable and sometimes necessary]]**
 **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=66967|AH Cliches from Alternate Worlds]]** - A fun [[double blind what if|DBWI]] take on the topic of alternate history cliches.
 **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=166278|Allohistorical Convergence Pet Peeves]]** - A thread critizing the **[[Citroen DS Incident]]** that often crops up in TLs, commonly leading to a lot of clichés.
+**[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/ah-recurring-tropes-and-the-timelines-that-avert-or-subvert-them.493881/|AH Recurring Tropes, and the timelines that avert or subvert them]]**
+**[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/ah-cliches-in-other-languages.469244/|AH Clichés in other languages]]**
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+====See Also====
+**[[alternate history:Historical Misconceptions]]**
+**[[alternate history:FH Clichés|Future History Clichés]]**
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