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alternate_history:alien_space_bats [2013/06/04 08:58] Petikealternate_history:alien_space_bats [2020/02/07 22:02] – Updating to new link format eofpi
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 ====== Alien Space Bats ====== ====== Alien Space Bats ======
  
-Often abbreviated to [[ASB]], this is a term given to a subgenre of alternate history concerning points of departure which aren't actually based on the course of factual human history. These include alternate history scenarios based on fictional or fantastical worlds, and more contentiously, on deviations in the evolution of life on Earth and on the Earth's geology. Simply put, any sort of event or timeline which would be impossible, or ludicrously unlikely, without divine intervention or "the activity of alien space bats". The name predates AH.com and apparently comes from the now defunct alternate history site  [[offtopic:Soc-History-What-If|Social History What If]]+Often abbreviated to [[ASB]], this is a term given to a subgenre of alternate history concerning points of departure which aren't actually based on the course of factual human history. These include alternate history scenarios based on fictional or fantastical worlds, and more contentiously, on deviations in the evolution of life on Earth and on the Earth's geology. Simply put, any sort of event or timeline which would be impossible, or ludicrously unlikely, without divine intervention or "the activity of alien space bats"
  
-The wide umbrella of ASB includes scenarios involving magic and, by AH.com convention, also any AH writings based on divergences from existing fictional universes, such as Star Wars.+The name predates AH.com and comes from the now defunct alternate history site/newsgroup [[offtopic:Soc.History.What-If]]. One of the main creators of the term was the late, great [[https://web.archive.org/web/20070611004248/http://www.flin.demon.co.uk/|Alison Brooks]], a British member of said site and long-term AH fan. This hasn't been overlooked in more wider fiction-writing and fiction-reading circles, and the term even appears [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_space_bats|on Wikipedia]]. Ken MacLeod's 2005 SF novel //[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Learning_the_World|Learning the World]]// outright uses the ASBs as side characters and an in-joke part of the novel's cast. 
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 +The wide umbrella of ASB includes scenarios involving magic and, by AH.com convention, also any AH writings based on divergences from existing fictional universes, such as //Star Wars//. Nowadays, this particular subset has its own separate forum, though in the past it was lumped under the ASB forum.
  
 Probably the most common ASB scenario involves the [[alternate history:ISOT]] and variations thereof. The [[shared worlds:Mosaic Earth]] concept developed from the ISOT.   Probably the most common ASB scenario involves the [[alternate history:ISOT]] and variations thereof. The [[shared worlds:Mosaic Earth]] concept developed from the ISOT.  
  
-There is a heated debate as to whether scenarios that involve small or large geological changes in the world count as ASB or not. A good example of such a geological change is the [[http://rocketpunk-observatory.com/tarrantry.htm|eponymous island]] of the Tarrantry series (series of alternate history naval warfare fiction) +There is a heated debate as to whether scenarios that involve small or large geological changes in the world count as ASB or not. A good example of such a geological change is the [[http://rocketpunk-observatory.com/tarrantry.htm|eponymous island]] of the [[timelines:Tarrantry]] series. As rule of thumb, AH.com administration considers geological PODs and works with such PODs to be a form of ASB scenario, so they should be posted in the ASB forum.  
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 +More on the basics of the ASB concept in [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-uuofTKwbI|this video]] from [[offtopic:Mitro]]'s site [[offtopic:The Alternate Historian]].
  
-It has recently been theorized by [[offtopic:the_lyniezian]] that Alien Space Bats [[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showpost.php?p=1577737&postcount=26|come from a planet called Cvidarrki]].+----
  
 ==== Strict definition of ASB timelines and scenarios ==== ==== Strict definition of ASB timelines and scenarios ====
  
-[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showpost.php?p=5891304&postcount=6|To quote]] one of our long-time members and moderators, [[offtopic:CalBear]] :+[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/1/post-5891304|To quote]] one of our long-time members and moderators, [[offtopic:CalBear]] :
  
 //"Without wandering into some of the more interesting aspects of Chaos Theory and philosophy, ASB can be fairly well defined.// //"Without wandering into some of the more interesting aspects of Chaos Theory and philosophy, ASB can be fairly well defined.//
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   * //**1. ANYTHING involving aliens**//   * //**1. ANYTHING involving aliens**//
   * //**2. ANYTHING involving massive geological changes**//   * //**2. ANYTHING involving massive geological changes**//
-  * //**3. Things so unlikely that they would require the intervention of deity**//+  * //**3. Things so unlikely that they would require the intervention of deity**//
   * //**4. Fantasy**//   * //**4. Fantasy**//
  
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 The last sentence is of special importance, since many AH.commers feel that the very term "alien space bats" has deteriorated over the years - or more precisely, been cheapened in its meaning. Often, a member of the board will claim that some odd historical or current event is ASB just because it is odd. This is **//not//** a proper use of the term. Just because a certain event is odd or seems somewhat unlikely doesn't mean it can't happen at all, as long as it doesn't break the laws of physics, the very nature of our universe or doesn't involve a random and blatant outside factor. Odd stuff is at worst improbable stuff, but [[ASB]] stuff means that it's outright implausible/impossible stuff. The last sentence is of special importance, since many AH.commers feel that the very term "alien space bats" has deteriorated over the years - or more precisely, been cheapened in its meaning. Often, a member of the board will claim that some odd historical or current event is ASB just because it is odd. This is **//not//** a proper use of the term. Just because a certain event is odd or seems somewhat unlikely doesn't mean it can't happen at all, as long as it doesn't break the laws of physics, the very nature of our universe or doesn't involve a random and blatant outside factor. Odd stuff is at worst improbable stuff, but [[ASB]] stuff means that it's outright implausible/impossible stuff.
  
-Say, a military coup in a small African country happening under odd circumstances is just that : Odd. Unless either side of the coup explicitly [[ISOT|gets ISOTed away to somewhere]] or [[Guns Of The South|receives hi-tech guns from time travelers]] or [[Worldwar|aliens paying a visit]], said scenario is **//not//** considered an [[Alien Space Bats]] scenario. Now, if any of those thee strange events (physics anomalies, time travel, alien invasions) occured in said scenario and interrupted the course of the regular world, it would definitely be an [[ASB]] scenario.+Say, a military coup in a small African country happening under odd circumstances is just that : Odd. Unless either side of the coup explicitly [[ISOT|gets ISOTed away to somewhere]] or [[Guns Of The South|receives hi-tech guns from time travelers]] or [[Worldwar|aliens paying a visit]], said scenario is **//not//** considered an [[Alien Space Bats]] scenario. Now, if any of those three strange events (physics anomalies, time travel, alien invasions) occured in said scenario and interrupted the course of the regular world, it would definitely be an [[ASB]] scenario.
  
-==== Notable ASB timelines and scenarios ==== +----
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-**[[timelines/asb_timelines|The ASB Timelines List]]** +
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-==== Notable ASB points of diveregence ==== +
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-**[[pods/Harry_Potter|Index of PoDs inside the Harry Potter fictional universe]]**+
  
 ==== Notable ASB trends and genres ==== ==== Notable ASB trends and genres ====
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 **1.) ABC versus XYZ**: Basically one group of individuals with an unlikely combination of capabilities versus another group of individuals with an unlikely combination of capabilities.  For example Lesbian Vampire Pirates versus Nazi Werewolf Cheerleaders. **1.) ABC versus XYZ**: Basically one group of individuals with an unlikely combination of capabilities versus another group of individuals with an unlikely combination of capabilities.  For example Lesbian Vampire Pirates versus Nazi Werewolf Cheerleaders.
  
-**2.) Guns of the X**: Derived from [[Harry Turtledove|Turtledove]]'s novel **//[[Guns of the South]]//**, in which a [[Afrikaners|South African Neo-Nazi group]] from the 21st century uses time travel technology to travel to the 1860s and arm the [[Confederate States]] of America with AK-47 assault rifles, thereby allowing the CSA to win the American Civil War and be used as the basis of a white supremecist state.  Similarly in a Guns of the X scenario a country or group under threat is provided with future weapons which will allow them to overcome their adversaries. Guns of the X threads include but are not limited to:+**2.) [[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=286923|Guns of the X]]**: Derived from [[Harry Turtledove|Turtledove]]'s novel **//[[Guns of the South]]//**, in which a [[Afrikaners|South African Neo-Nazi group]] from the 21st century uses time travel technology to travel to the 1860s and arm the [[Confederate States]] of America with AK-47 assault rifles, thereby allowing the CSA to win the American Civil War and be used as the basis of a white supremecist state.  Similarly in a Guns of the X scenario a country or group under threat is provided with future weapons which will allow them to overcome their adversaries. Guns of the X threads include but are not limited to:
  
   * **Guns of Gaul**: Guns provided to Vercingtorix to fight the Roman invasion of Gaul.   * **Guns of Gaul**: Guns provided to Vercingtorix to fight the Roman invasion of Gaul.
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 Other popular variations of this scenario include having the reader wake up as themselves but in a different physical body, ie: younger, older, the opposite gender or another race, having the reader wake up to find their family life changed, ie: married with children, having a twin or even being their own twin, having the reader wake up isotted to an ATL. Other popular variations of this scenario include having the reader wake up as themselves but in a different physical body, ie: younger, older, the opposite gender or another race, having the reader wake up to find their family life changed, ie: married with children, having a twin or even being their own twin, having the reader wake up isotted to an ATL.
  
-==== In AH.com Culture AH.com'ASB forum reputation ====+**5.) X [[alternate history:ISOT]]To Y**: In which a person, territory, object, etc. is transported from one place and/or time to another, usually examining the immediate aftermath.  A long-popular subject for timelines.
  
-In recent years the [[offtopic:ASB forum]] has developed something of a reputation for frivolous, creepy or careless threads. After several earlier abortive attempts to do something about this, the [[offtopic:Landshark Offensive]] was launched in 2009.+**6.) [[alternate history: The Race]] Invades X**:  Derived from [[alternate history:Harry Turtledove]]'s **//[[alternate history:Worldwar]]//** series, in these scenarios the alien Lizards invade a different setting or time period.  Originally a trend in the Alien Space Bats forum, timelines with this subject have since shifted over to Fandom AH since the creation of that forum. 
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 +==== In AH.com Culture ==== 
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 +It has been theorized by [[offtopic:the_lyniezian]] that Alien Space Bats [[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showpost.php?p=1577737&postcount=26|come from a planet called Cvidarrki]]. 
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 +== AH.com's ASB forum reputation == 
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 +In recent years the [[offtopic:ASB forum]] has developed something of a reputation for frivolous, creepy or careless threads. After several earlier abortive attempts to do something about this, the [[offtopic:Landshark Offensive]] was launched in 2009. Since then, the forum has gotten much better again. The introduction of threads created specifically for frivolous and non-frivolous ASB scenario ideas has had a fair share in improving the situation.  
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 ==== ASBs in AH.com Fiction ==== ==== ASBs in AH.com Fiction ====
  
-The Alien Space Bats have appeared as powerful villains in the //**[[stories:AH.com The Series]]**//, first being mentioned in the episode [[stories:AH.COM THE SORTA-KINDA-MAYBE NEXT GENERATION]].+The Alien Space Bats have appeared as powerful villains in the //**[[stories:AH.com The Series]]**//, first openly mentioned in the episode [[stories:AH.COM THE SORTA-KINDA-MAYBE NEXT GENERATION]]. They have since appeared as recurring antagonists throughout the series, as well as its other sequels and spinoffs set in the "AH.comverse"
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 ==== See Also ==== ==== See Also ====
  
-**[[AH.com's AH Writing Slang]]**+**[[timelines:asb_timelines|The ASB Timelines List]]** 
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 +**[[alternate_history:ah_slang_and_acronyms|AH.com's AH Writing Slang]]**
  
 **[[ISOT]]** - The "mass teleportation" type of ASB.  **[[ISOT]]** - The "mass teleportation" type of ASB. 
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 **The [[offtopic:ASB Forum]]** - Where scenarios like this show up. **The [[offtopic:ASB Forum]]** - Where scenarios like this show up.
  
-**[[offtopic:Soc-History-What-If|Social History What If]]** - The lads and ladies who coined the term.+**[[offtopic:Soc.History.What-If]]** - The lads and ladies who coined the term
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 +**[[offtopic:Who_s_who_of_asbs|Who's Who of ASBs]]** - A [[offtopic:Running jokes|tongue-in-cheek list]] of the most often reccuring Alien Space Bats characters. Meet the annoying but cute chiropteran pals of AH.commers ! ;-) 
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 +**[[offtopic:Bats]]** - Other references to our furry winged friends.
  
-**[[Who_s_who_of_asbs|Who's Who of ASBs]]** A [[offtopic:Running jokes|tongue-in-cheek list]] of the most often reccuring Alien Space Bats characters. Meet the annoying but cute chiropteran pals of AH.commers ! ;-)+----
  
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