====== Points of Divergence : France ====== Points of divergence concerning alternate historical developments within the modern day territory of France. ==== Prehistory ==== Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. ==== Antiquity ==== * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=264126|Vandal Corsica and Sardinia]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=235015|Challenge: Basque nation]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=307108|WI: Larger distribution of Basque/Aquitanian/Vasconic peoples]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=347582|Challenge: No France]]** * Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. ==== The Middle Ages ==== * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=347582|Challenge: No France]]** * **[[pods:Tours|The Battle of Tours PODs]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=269713|WI: Kingdom of Arles incorporated into France earlier]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=256057|Challenge: Biscay Islands]]** - Discussion about whether the islands on the southern side of Brittany, (Belle Île, Île d'Houat, Hoëdic, etc.) could get annected by a different country than France during the Middle Ages (á la The Norman Islands). * **[[pods:Capetian and Valois dynasties|Capetian and Valois dynasties PODs]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=290874|WI: Louis the Pious only had one son ?]]** * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/ahc-independent-occitania.295886/|Challenge: Independent Occitania]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=76356|Challenge: A modern day independent Burgundy]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=346181|Louis (VIII) of France maring Eleanor of Brittany in 1195]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=262747|WI Philip the Fair does not destroy the Templar knights]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=213147|Plausibility check: Salic Law abolished for the French Throne in the 15th century]]** * **[[The Hundred Years War|Hundred Years War PODs]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=337040|Henry V, King of England and France]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=327141|Charles the Bold doesn't die at Nancy]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=257622|Challenge: Habsburg France]]**+ * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=58933|Surviving County of Provence]]** * Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. ==== Early Modern history ==== * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=76356|Challenge: A modern day independent Burgundy]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=288884|Implications of a more powerful French Navy (post-1500 POD)]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=305493|Incas meet the French instead of Spanish]]** * **[[pods:The Bourbons|The House of Bourbon PODs]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=265319|Challenge: With a POD in 1600, make France the dominant world power (hypwerpower) by the 19th century]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=256046|Impacts of a protestant France]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=272320|WI: Henry IV remains Protestant ?]]** * **[[pods:Wars of Religion|Wars of Religion PODs]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=306729|WI: No Louis XIII of France]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=175372|WI : A different Louis XIV]]** * **[[pods:Thirty Years War|Thirty Years War PODs]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=257622|Challenge: Habsburg France]]** * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/the-most-serene-republic-of-france.504042/|A much earlier French republic ?]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=351646|Plausibility check: California is settled by the French]]** * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-france-takes-new-amsterdam-new-netherlands-instead-of-the-english.221485/|WI France takes New Amsterdam/New Netherlands instead of the English ?]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=352222|Implications of a surviving France Antarctique & France Équinoxiale ?]]** * Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. ==== 18th and 19th century ==== * **[[The Bourbons|The House of Bourbon PODs]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=288884|Implications of a more powerful French Navy (post-1500 POD)]]** * **[[pods:Seven Years War|Seven Years War PODs]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=278469|A French New Zealand ?]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=238079|WI The French Revolution Happened 30 years earlier ?]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=105737|WI: In 1763, France surrenders Saint Domingue colony (modern day Haiti), but retains Canada ?]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=11743|Plausibility check: Republican Vendee (with a 1770s POD)]]** * **[[http://digi20.digitale-sammlungen.de/de/fs1/object/display/bsb00048272_00001.html|Turgot supported by Louis XVI]]** (German) * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=80281|WI Louis XVIII fathers a son ?]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=359806|Plausibility check: early French Central bank ?]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=216140|French revolution precedes the American revolution]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=126822|Various French Revolution PODs]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=302103|WI Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette had escaped ?]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=174548|WI Necker remained finance minister of France]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=279969|WI: Louis XVII survived ?]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=265917|Challenge: Revolutionary France doesn't go to war, is semi-accepted by Europe]]** * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/lavoisier-lives-effects-of-alternate-chemistry.274145/|Antoine Lavoisier not executed during the French revolution, effects on chemistry]]** * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-academie-francaise-permanently-abolished.407994/|WI: Academie Francaise permanently abolished]]** * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/french-economic-history-1789-to-1848.426686/|French Economic History (1789 to 1848)]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=260375|Challenge: Balkanize France after 1800 AD]]** * **[[pods:Napoleon Bonaparte|Napoleon Bonaparte PODs]]** * **[[pods:Napoleonic Wars|Napoleonic Wars PODs]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=61133|WI France hadn't sold the Louisiana territory ?]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=35771|Challenge: Louisiana War of 1804]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=31738|Challenge: France regains North American colonies]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=257552|Charles X restored Bourbon King of France in 1815]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=266828|What would be a good post-Napoleonic POD for a France-wank ?]]** * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-prince-ferdinand-philippe-duc-dorleans-doesnt-die-in-a-carriage-accident.281338/|WI prince Ferdinand Philippe Duc d'Orleans doesn't die in a carriage accident ?]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=257195|Could 19th century France hold onto the Rhineland ?]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=305832|Napoleon III's biggest mistake]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/was-napoleon-iii-really-that-dumb.215740/|Was Napoleon III really that dumb?]]** * **[[Franco-Prussian War|Franco-Prussian War PODs]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=286884|Challenge: Restoration of the French Monarchy (POD mus be between September 4th, 1870 and October 24th, 1929)]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=242815|Consequences of an Orleanist Restoration in the 1870s]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=307105|Challenge: Authoritarian France by 1930 (with a POD between 1871 and 1914)]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=265543|WI: Boulanger leader of France]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=261413|Challenge: Alternate Dreyfus Affair]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=150771|Plausibility check: Fascism in France]]** * Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. ==== 20th century ==== * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=36073|Challenge: Make France a superpower by 2000 with a post-1900 POD]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=288884|Implications of a more powerful French Navy (post-1500 POD)]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=347555|Switch perceptions of French and German military prowess]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=259179|Anglo-French War in the early 20th century]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=286884|Challenge: Restoration of the French Monarchy (POD must be between September 4th, 1870 and October 24th, 1929)]]** * **[[WWI|World War I PODs]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=259906|WI: Clemenceau is killed before the Versailes Conference, resulting in lighter terms for Germany]]** * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=104399|Challenge: Succesful socialist (but not communist) revolutions in Germany, Austria, France, Hungary and Poland in 1919, following the end of WWI]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=283448|Plausibility check: Fascist France]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=303207|WI: No Pierre Laval government of 1931]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=314063|Franco-Italian War in the early to mid 30s]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/ahc-wi-french-civil-war-instead-of-spanish.293781/|Challenge: A French Civil War instead of the Spanish Civil War]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/ahc-wi-french-civil-war-during-the-spanish-civil-war.332176/|Plausibility check: France having a civil war at the same time as the Spanish Civil War]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=251095|WI: UK and France intervene in Spanish Civil War]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=247917|WI France ditches the Maginot Line concept ?]]** * **[[WWII|World War II PODs]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=146652|A better-prepared France in WWII]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=237872|WI: Longer Maginot Line]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=154632|Challenge: Switch France with Italy in WWII]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=139879|WI Admiral Darlan threw his lot in with Nazi Germany ?]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=264994|WI Petain acquitted ?]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=179015|WI: French press Saar Offensive]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=351568|Was the fall of France in 1940 preventable if there was a change in leadership ?]]** * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=265768|Renaud's government refuses armistice]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=261867|WI: Charles de Gaulle dies in 1940 ? (1)]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=296272|WI: Charles de Gaulle dies in 1940 ? (2)]]** * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-de-gaulle-instead-of-sikorski.266037/|WI: De Gaulle dies instead of Sikorski]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=146025|WI: No Free French in WWII]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=53502|Challenge: Discredited French Resistance]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=146142|WI: Vichy France an Axis belligerant and no Free French]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=164402|WI Vichy France contests invasion of French Indochina ?]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=1227|D-Day Repulsed]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=257199|A more graceful French exit from colonialism ?]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=258529|Consequences of no French conquest of Algeria ?]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=315622|WI: France transfers Foreign Legion to UN]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=186989|Plausibility check: French neo-fascist movement in the late 1960s/early 70s ?]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=296246|DeGaulle assassinated]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=55703|Challenge: A French "Falklands War" in the late twentieth century]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=61185|Coluche goes for the Presidency]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=282256|What if FR3 was privatized, instead of TF1?]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/france-and-germany-are-still-constitutional-monarchies-today.404254/|Plausibility check: France and Germany still as constitutional monarchies today]]** * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-1994-eiffel-tower-terrorist-attack-succeeds.361144/|WI the 1994 Eiffel Tower terrorist attack succeeds ? (1)]]** * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/new-years-eve-1995-a-hijacked-plane-destroys-the-eiffel-tower.212433/|WI the 1994 Eiffel Tower terrorist attack succeeds ? (2)]]** * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/gia-crash-flight-8969-into-the-eiffel-tower.40535/|WI the 1994 Eiffel Tower terrorist attack succeeds ? (3)]]** * Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. ==== 21st century ==== * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/on-9-11-a-plane-crashes-into-the-eiffel-tower-as-well.90975/|A plane attack on the Eiffel Tower on 9/11 ?]]** * Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. ==== ASB / ISOT / Geological ==== * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=252106|Revolutionary France ISOTed to the 8th century]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=220507|Charles de Gaulle receives a 100 AMX-30 tanks in early 1940]]** * Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. ---- ==== See Also ==== **[[offtopic:France]]** **[[timelines:France|French Timelines and Scenarios]]** **[[resources:France|Useful Resources about France]]** ---- ==== Navigation ==== **[[Specific Countries|List of Countries by POD]]** **[[pods:pods|Points of Divergence Main Directory]]**