====== Points of Divergence : Confederate States of America ====== Since PODs and POD questions concerning the [[alternate history:confederate states|CSA]] during and possibly after the American Civil War are particularly popular in US alternate history fiction, we've decided to create this page to list this specialized kind of POD. **Minor NOTE:** If you want to include PODs related to the ACW, only include those that aren't concerned with the war in purely general terms, but with direct and specific impacts of the war on the country's standing. ---- ==== CSA during the American Civil War PODs ==== * //For detailed discussion of possible PODs during the Civil War, please see **[[pods:American Civil War|American Civil War PODs]]**.// * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=98946|Confederate States of America: An Inviable Nation ?]]** - Discussion on plausibility problems with an independent CSA. * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=250926|Discussion and story on the CSA using imported elephants in the American Civil War and beyond]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=245742|WI the Confederacy decided to honor the neutrality of Missouri and Kentucky from the beginning of the war and didn't invade/occupy them ?]]** * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=266602|Challenge: Robert E. Lee fights for the Union]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=190158|WI: Bragg resigns from the Army of Tennessee in 1863]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=194755|WI: Jefferson Davis as Confederate General, not President ?]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=261421|Jefferson Davis dies in 1863]]** * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=237601|WI: A different Confederate President ?]]** * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=234619|WI: The Confederate Navy held Mobile Bay]]** * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=241219|WI: Joseph Johnston wasn't replaced in July 1864 ?]]** * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=257458|Effect of a Confederate victory at Gettysburg on the 1864 elections ?]]** * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=236875|Best possible Confederate victory (with speedy abolition)]]** * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=264444|Did the Confederate States Really Have a Chance?]]** * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=17951|CSA wins, makes harsh peace]]** * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=76456| WI a state had seceded from the Confederacy during the Civil War? ]]** * Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. === CSA outcomes in the American Civil War PODs === * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=71161|Would the South break apart after victory ?]]** * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=233879|Discussion of possible times for foreign recognition of the Confederacy]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=262511|If general Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson Survived The Civil War]]** * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=244525|Confederate Missouri or Kentucky in peace agreement]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=91661|Can Virginia become its own nation during the Civil War ?]]** * Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. ---- ==== Surviving CSA PODs ==== === Slavery === * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=258655|Likeliest outcome for slavery if the CSA somehow won the war early on (e.g. 1862) ?]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=234262|CSA gradual emancipation?]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=166360|When would slavery end in the CSA ? (1)]]** * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=258655|When would slavery end in the CSA ? (2)]]** * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=236875|Best-case scenario for CSA politically and emancipationistically]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=234262|Gradual emancipation within the CSA ?]]** * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=236875|Best-case scenario for CSA politically and emancipationistically ?]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=172785|Effects of the CSA's survival on slavery in the CSA]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=234287|Effects of the CSA's survival on slavery in the USA 1]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=261141|Effects of the CSA's survival on slavery in the USA 2]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=260093|Border state slavery after a CSA victory]]** * Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. === Military Forces === * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=236688| Future Confederate munitions]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=246743|A Confederate Navy after independence ?]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=1193|Discussion on the possible evolution of a surviving CSA's armed forces between 1864 and the 2000s]]** * Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. === Foreign Relations === * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=234168| CSA's potential allies]]** * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=215924|International alignment of the CSA]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=262044|The CSA's potential allies 1]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=234168|The CSA's potential allies 2]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=285602|Every time the Confederacy wins/survives in a TL, Europe never seems to change. A cliché ?]]** * Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. === Expansion === * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=250684|CSA Pacific ports?]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=180781|Confederate expansion]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=52354|Plausibility check: Is a Confederate-owned Cuba realistic ?]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=234183| A Confederate Cuba?]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=152713|Cuba, the USA and CSA]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=245200|Could a surviving CSA win against Spain in a conflict similar to the Spanish-American War ?]]** * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=236474| The CSA becoming a colonial power?]]** * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=257753| A possible CSA-Mexican war]]** * Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. === Internal Politics === * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=238323|A look at hypothetical CSA presidential elections in 1867]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=262998|Party systems of the USA and independent CSA ?]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=180484|A Communist CSA ?]]** * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=263763|Could the CSA have preserved states' rights?]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=120828|List of possible CSA Presidents]]** * Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. === Effects on Specific Areas === * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=259218|The (OTL) US Virgin Islands]]** * **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/plausibility-check-dominion-of-dominica.149897/|Santo Domingo]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=241273|Arkansas]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=229293|The development of southern Florida]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=95318|Mexico and Mexican politics (1)]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=42915|Mexico and Mexican politics (2)]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=86218|Canada and Canadian politics]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=234037|US foreign policy]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=261113|The US economy]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=26117|The CSA economy]]** * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=240080|US and CS National Identities]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=233183|US culture]]** * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=235429|The building of the Panama Canal]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=269077|The city of Richmond]]** * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=275297|Canadian confederation]]** * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=116155|The US flag ]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=166172|CSA history textbooks]]** * Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. === Other === * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=258186|Challenge: Prevent the rise of the southern myth]]** * **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=242491|Projects combined: A world with a realistic CSA victory and a quasi-Fascist United Ireland]]** * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=229750|Realistic CSA victory timeline ]]** * **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=277302|Modern and racially liberal CSA ISOTed to OTL]]** * Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. ---- ==== See Also ==== **[[alternate history:Confederate States]]** **[[alternate history:Confederate Cuba]]** ---- ==== Navigation ==== **[[pods:american civil war|American Civil War Points of Divergence]]** **[[pods:USA|United States of America Points of Divergence]]** **[[Specific Countries|List of Countries by POD]]** **[[pods:pods|Points of Divergence Main Directory]]**