====== Points of Divergence : China ====== Points of divergence concerning alternate historical developments within the modern day territory of China. China is a large populous country in Eastern Asia. It, as we all know, invented pretty much everything, and possibly is one of the oldest civilizations on earth. It has been through pretty much every political situation known to man in its long and rich history, and so of course provides many potential PODS. Below are some examples of discussion about China: ==== Prehistory ==== **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-culturally-diverse-china.410796/|WI: Culturally diverse China]]** Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. ==== Antiquity ==== **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=296731|A mohist China]]** **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-culturally-diverse-china.410796/|WI: Culturally diverse China]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=67147|Discussion on China being Jewish]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=82664|Discussion on Roman involvement in China]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=34350|Discussion on Alexander the Great taking China during his conquests]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=205924|A more feudal China ?]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=260608|Challenge: Nomadic Chinese tribe]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=34350|Alexandrian China]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=261430|Challenge: Prevent Chinese unification in 221 BC]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=262967|Challenge: Save the Late Han Dynasty]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=307555|Challenge: The Chinese Envoy reaches Rome in 97 AD]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=9395|Better Technology exchange between China and Europe]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=367760|China without foreign dynasties]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=385877|Challenge: Preserve Tang borders]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/no-islam-christian-china.394838/|Could China christianise during the Early Middle Ages ?]]** Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. ==== Medieval to Colonial Era PODs ==== **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=352910|WI: A militant Song Dynasty]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=314287|Plausibility check: Holy Roman Empire style China]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=8329|Discussion on China's potential as a colonial power]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=56290|Discussion on China being conquered and converted by Islam in the 800s]]** **[[pods:Mongol invasion|Points of Divergence:The Mongol Invasions]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=268329|DBWI: Temüjin invades China]]** **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/tibet-a-stonger-mongolia.73385/|A more successful, expansionist Tibetan Empire instead of Mongolia ?]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=34416|Discussion on the Japanese taking some or all of China during the Manchu conquests]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=266175|Did the Ming underperform ?]]** **[[http://alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=250878|Some Ming Dynasty China PODs]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=360382|The Ming continues maritime expansion]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=242026|The Chinese Fleet of the Ming Dynasty]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/cuisine-and-foods-of-japanese-korean-chinese-colonized-west-coast-of-north-america.394841/|Cuisine and foods of a Japanese/Korean/Chinese colonized west coast of North America ?]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=349445|WI no Yi Sun Shin ?]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=34416|Plausibility check: Could the Japanese conquer China in the 1600s ?]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=129485|Plausibility check: Chinese colonization of Siberia ?]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=259194|Non-Mongol-led Chinese or Korean conquest of Japan ?]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=258774|Why did the Chinease not expand and create a colonial empire ?]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=306923|Challenge: Make Qing China fall earlier with civil war]]** Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. ==== Pre-Modern and Victorian PODs ==== **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/a-surviving-ming-dynasty-into-the-18th-19th-century.489742/|Ming Dynasty surviving into the 18th-19th century?]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=50784|China pulling a Meiji (reforming)]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=42643|China getting carved up by the European powers]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=56385|The fate of the Beiyang Navy]]** **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-qing-china-collapsed-mid-19th-century.420234/#post-15124538|WI Qing China collapsed mid-19th century]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=41026|Evolution of a distinct Cantonese culture in Southern China (moreso than OTL)]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=378415|No Dowager Cixi, China westernizes]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=308243|WI: The Taiping Rebellion is ended circa 1862-1863]]** **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/american-hainan-and-taiwan.116782/|American Hainan and Taiwan]]** **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/french-seizure-of-the-ryukyuan-islands-taiwan-and-hainan-by-1850s.111753/|Plausibility check: French seizure of the Ryukyuan Islands, Taiwan and Hainan by the 1850s]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=250836|WI the New Territories (Hong Kong, etc.) in China were ceded permanently to Britain ?]]** Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. ==== Republic of China and World War II PODs ==== **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=38297|Discussion on China balkanizing in the twentieth century]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=316966|Challenge: Divide China into a republican and monarchic successor (with a POD before, during or after 1912)]]** **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/vatican-city-of-china.187608/|The Forbidden city becoming a Vatican-like state for the Chinese emperor]]** **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/ahc-independent-tibet.283869/|Challenge: Independent Tibet (post-1900)]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=260174|Successful Republic of China]]** **[[Yuan Shikai|Yuan Shikai PODs]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=63857|China in the Central Powers in WWI]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=111684|Challenge: Greater Tibet with a 20th century POD]]** **[[Chinese Civil War|Chinese Civil War PODs]]** **[[second sino-japanese war|Second Sino-Japanese War PODs]]** **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/modern-east-turkmenistan.293591/|Plausibility check: Modern East Turkestan ?]]** Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. ==== Communist China PODs ==== **[[Chinese Civil War|Chinese Civil War PODs]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=327962|Plausibility check/Challenge: Manchurian SSR]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=254621|WI: Anti-Soviet PRC from the very beginning or an earlier Sino-Soviet split ?]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=30268|No Chinese intervention in the Korean War]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=271987|WI: China never implements the One-Child policy]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=256942|Plausibility check: Sino-North Korean War in 1968]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=14024|Full-scale war between the Soviet Union and China in '69]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=329333|WI: Lin Biao assasinates Mao]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=305287|Plausibility check: Hong Kong's New Territories ceded in perpetuity (and the repercussions)]]** **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/pc-wi-singapore-merges-totally-with-hong-kong.394761/|Plausibility check: Merging Singapore and Hong Kong with a post-1979 POD]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=160331|WI: Chinese Men to Space... by the 1970s]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=285775|Challenge: Chinese to the Moon in the 1970s/1980s]]** Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. ==== 21st century ==== **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=286634|Plausibility check: A democratic China in the 21st century ?]]** Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. ==== Miscellaneous ==== **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=254974|Challenge: Make a Chinese dynasty that lasts over thousand years]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=255616|An independent Manchuria space programme ?]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=266526|PODs woth best possible outcomes for the Chinese]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=322018|Challenge: Bigger/Superpower China]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=365278|WI: China stays divided ?]]** Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. ==== ASB / ISOT / Geological ==== **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/panama-hong-kong-singapore-sri-lanka-and-nigeria-isot-to-10-april-1912.371491/|Panama, Hong Kong, Singapore, Sri Lanka, and Nigeria ISOTed from present to 10 April 1912]]** Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. ---- ==== See Also ==== **[[offtopic:China]]** **[[timelines:China|Chinese Timelines and Scenarios]]** **[[resources:China|Useful Resources about China]]** ---- ==== Navigation ==== **[[Specific Countries|List of Countries by POD]]** **[[pods:pods|Points of Divergence Main Directory]]**