===== Points of Divergence: Anjou dynasties / Angevines ===== The Angevins were one of the major and most widely branched noble and ruling dynasties of European histories. They affected the history of their native France, of the British Isles, of Italy (especially Naples) and of Hungary and Poland. These are points of divergence concerning various alternate developments and outcomes in the various branches of the Angevins. ---- ==== Angevins in France and Britain ==== **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/the-count-of-anjou-tries-to-invade-normandy-while-william-of-normandy-invades-england.326893/|The Count of Anjou tries to invade Normandy while William of Normandy invades England]]** **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/ahc-house-of-anjou-or-cadet-branches-emperors-of-the-west.341368/|Challenge: House of Anjou (or cadet branches) Emperors of the West]]** **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/william-adelin-impregnates-matilda-of-anjou.220440/|William Adelin and Matilda of Anjou have a son who marries Eleanor of Aquitaine]]** **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/the-luck-of-henry-of-anjou.187688/|Louis VII and Eleanor of Acquitaine deceased, their daughter Marie marries Henry d’Anjou in 1160]]** **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/a-few-tweaks-to-the-heirs-of-anjou.405065/|A few tweaks to the heirs of Anjou]]** **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/ahc-have-the-land-holdings-of-the-capetian-house-of-anjou-belong-to-one-man-by-1400.381856/|Challenge: Have the land holdings of the Capetian House of Anjou belong to one man by 1400]]** **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/margaret-of-anjou-marries-frederick-iii.346636/|HRE emperor Frederick III marries Margaret of Anjou (1)]]** **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-marguerite-of-anjou-holy-roman-empress.428253/|HRE emperor Frederick III marries Margaret of Anjou (2)]]** **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/margaret-of-anjou.380898/|Margaret of Anjou dies in childbirth]]** **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/margaret-of-anjou.381346/|Margaret of Anjou dies childless]]** **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/margaret-of-anjou.68533/|Margaret of Anjou giving birth to Henry VI's son, Edward of Lancaster]]** **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-margaret-of-anjou-has-more-children.347403/|WI: Margaret of Anjou has more children]]** **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/elizabeth-woodville-margaret-of-anjou.228218/|Elizabeth Woodville & Margaret of Anjou]]** **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-nicolas-danjou-survives.392920/|WI: Nicolas d'Anjou survives instead of dying in Nancy in 1473]]** **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-nicholas-of-anjou-survives-and-becomes-the-king-of-france.364506/|Plausibility check: Nicholas of Anjou surviving, marrying Mary of Burgundy, becoming King of France]]** **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-the-duke-of-anjou-had-an-heir.204064/|WI: Charles IV, the Duke of Anjou and Provence, had an heir ?]]** **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/margaret-of-anjou-queen-of-england.379694/|Margaret of Anjou, Queen of England]]** **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-elizabeth-i-marries-the-duke-of-anjou.184113/|Plausibility check: Elizabeth I of England marries the Duke of Anjou]]** **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/duchy-of-anjou-questions.336819/|Phillip de Bourbon (previously Duke of Anjou) discussion]]** **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/philippe-duke-of-anjou-becomes-king-of-france.418035/|Philippe, Duke of Anjou, becomes King of France]]** **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/bretagne-for-anjou.294790/|The young duc de Bretagne {duke of Brittany) is saved instead of the young duc de Anjou (duke of Anjou)]]** Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. ---- ==== Angevins in Italy ==== **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-charles-of-anjou-loses-the-battle-of-tagliacozzo.368733/|WI Charles of Anjou loses the Battle of Tagliacozzo ?]]** **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-manfried-hohenstaufen-defeats-charles-of-anjou.312320/|WI Manfred Hohenstaufen, King of Sicily, defeats Charles of Anjou]]** **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/could-charles-of-anjou-ever-hope-to-claim-the-latin-empire.379838/|Plausibility check: Could Charles of Anjou ever hope to claim the Latin Empire ?]]** **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/charles-of-anjou-and-constantinople.102633/|Plausibility check: Would Charles of Anjou risk a campaign against the Byzantines in the 1250s ?]]** **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/charles-of-anjou.79684/|Plausibility check: Charles of Anjou doing an invasion against the Byzantines in the late 1260s or early 1270s]]** Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. ---- ==== Angevins in Hungary, Poland and Austria ==== **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/plantagenet-hungary-instead-of-capetian-anjou-hungary.232689/|Plantagenet Hungary instead of Capetian Anjou Hungary]]** **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/no-anjou-on-the-throne-of-hungary-croatia.174475/|No Anjou on the throne of Hungary-Croatia]]** **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-charles-i-of-hungary-dies-in-the-battle-of-rozgony-rozhanovce-on-june-15-ad-1312.328686/|WI: Charles I of Hungary dies in the Battle of Rozgony/Rozhanovce on June 15 AD 1312]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=251022|WI Polish-Hungarian Union ?]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=252247|An alternate wife for Louis I of Hungary]]** **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/mary-anjou-of-hungary-and-her-unborn-son-dont-die-during-a-hunt-what-are-the-atl-repercussions.429064/|Mary Anjou of Hungary and her unborn son don't die during a hunt. What are the ATL repercussions ?]]** **[[http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=241815|WI: Sigismund of Luxembourg kicked from Hungary]]** **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-different-marry-happy-austria.418880/|WI: A different 'Marry Happy Austria']]** Know of any PODs or POD discussions ? Feel free to add them. ---- ==== Angevins in other countries / Miscellaneous ==== **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-house-of-habsburg-anjou-durazzo.199673/|WI House of Habsburg-Anjou-Durazzo]]** **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/wi-joanna-of-castille-marries-nicolas-of-anjou.194888/|WI: Joanna of Castille marries Nicolas of Anjou]]** **[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/joanna-la-betraneja-marries-nicholas-of-anjou.183304/|Joanna La Betraneja marries Nicholas of Anjou]]** //**[[https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/anjou-france-an-alternate-enlightenment.34561/|Anjou France: An alternate Enlightenment]]**// - A mini-timeline by Kidblast, where the Angevins remain relevant for longer and become associated with an ATL Enlightenment era by the 18th century. ---- ==== See Also ==== **[[pods:capetian and valois dynasties|Points of Divergence: Capetian and Valois dynasties]]** **[[pods:the bourbons|Points of Divergence: The Bourbons]]** **[[pods:France|French PODs]]** **[[pods:Italy|Italian PODs]]** **[[pods:Britain|British PODs]]** **[[pods:Hungary|Hungarian PODs]]** **[[pods:Slovakia|Slovak PODs]]** **[[pods:Poland|Polish PODs]]** ---- ==== Navigation ==== **[[pods:Famous People|Famous People PODs Main Directory]]** **[[pods:pods|Points of Divergence Main Directory]]**