Gian
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I bet this EO got some massive blowback from Hispanic groups, with the pro-Zhirinovsky Russians laughing at the Bush administration's faces.
Zhirinovsky's Russian Empire
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I bet this EO got some massive blowback from Hispanic groups, with the pro-Zhirinovsky Russians laughing at the Bush administration's faces.
James G
Gone Fishin'
I suspect he means the other Dominica, as per the confusion in the update over the two.
Bookmark1995
Banned
I think a lot of Americans would be pissed off at their own government showing off stereotypical American ignorance of geography, and this ignorance ends up harming an innocent nation and a regional partner (with a large diaspora in the US, mind you) would definitely be the final nail in the coffin for W ITTL.
GW Bush spending only one term in office maybe one of the bright spots of this TL, but it has come at a horrible cost.
James G
Gone Fishin'
Really? This would really upset the ordinary American citizen. Maybe I'm wrong, but I doubt this.
Bookmark1995
Banned
ITTL, it apparently underscores Bush's image as an idiot who was in over his head.
Couldn't the CIA/MI6 support the "native" Dominicans with anti-Russian propaganda, encouraging civil disobedience, etc? To add a layer of deniability they can do so by supporting a group of Dominican exiles in Barbados or Jamaica.
EDIT: another matter, at this time the court of final appeal for Dominica (along with several other countries) still rests with the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council. This means there will be no grounds for Dominica to extradite. And on what grounds are they requesting extradition?
EDIT: another matter, at this time the court of final appeal for Dominica (along with several other countries) still rests with the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council. This means there will be no grounds for Dominica to extradite. And on what grounds are they requesting extradition?
The leader of AfD had a meeting with Zhirinovsky today, apparently.
http://www.dw.com/en/head-of-the-afd-frauke-petry-meets-with-russian-officials-in-moscow/a-37643188
"Vladimir Zhirinovsky is an eccentric veteran nationalist who is famous for his outlandish views"
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http://www.dw.com/en/head-of-the-afd-frauke-petry-meets-with-russian-officials-in-moscow/a-37643188
"Vladimir Zhirinovsky is an eccentric veteran nationalist who is famous for his outlandish views"
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Just started reading this, so I have a lot to get through, but a few minor points on the UK's part of the timeline that I noticed so far.
Tony Blair is identified as leader of the Labour Party in the early '90s at a time presumably preceding John Major's first general election as Prime Minister. IRL, Neil Kinnock was still Labour leader at the time of Major's 1992 victory and was replaced by John Smith, who died in 1994 and was replaced by Blair. While it's certainly possible that Labour might have replaced Kinnock and chosen Blair for whatever reason, I didn't see an obvious point of divergence that would have caused this to happen. Also, in the earlier portion of their careers, Gordon Brown was actually seen as the higher-profile moderate/reformer within Labour ranks with Blair as sort of the second fiddle.
Gerald Kaufman is identified as Foreign Secretary in early 1992, but it appears that Major is still Prime Minister in August 1992. Kaufman is a long-time Labour member whereas Major is a Conservative, and the Conservatives won majorities in both the 1987 and 1992 elections, so there would have been no reason to invite an opposition party member to join the Cabinet. Even there's a POD where Major called an earlier election that didn't go as well for the Conservatives and was surviving in a minority government situation, it's unlikely that they would form a "unity government" with Labour that would bring Kaufman or anyone else from Labour into the Cabinet. An agreement with the northern Irish unionists or even the Liberal Democrats probably would have been preferable for most Conservative politicians and voters in that scenario, unless the foreign policy upheavals have redrawn the traditional fault lines of UK politics.
Tony Blair is identified as leader of the Labour Party in the early '90s at a time presumably preceding John Major's first general election as Prime Minister. IRL, Neil Kinnock was still Labour leader at the time of Major's 1992 victory and was replaced by John Smith, who died in 1994 and was replaced by Blair. While it's certainly possible that Labour might have replaced Kinnock and chosen Blair for whatever reason, I didn't see an obvious point of divergence that would have caused this to happen. Also, in the earlier portion of their careers, Gordon Brown was actually seen as the higher-profile moderate/reformer within Labour ranks with Blair as sort of the second fiddle.
Gerald Kaufman is identified as Foreign Secretary in early 1992, but it appears that Major is still Prime Minister in August 1992. Kaufman is a long-time Labour member whereas Major is a Conservative, and the Conservatives won majorities in both the 1987 and 1992 elections, so there would have been no reason to invite an opposition party member to join the Cabinet. Even there's a POD where Major called an earlier election that didn't go as well for the Conservatives and was surviving in a minority government situation, it's unlikely that they would form a "unity government" with Labour that would bring Kaufman or anyone else from Labour into the Cabinet. An agreement with the northern Irish unionists or even the Liberal Democrats probably would have been preferable for most Conservative politicians and voters in that scenario, unless the foreign policy upheavals have redrawn the traditional fault lines of UK politics.
I just an article in the Washington Post speaking about Slovakia and Vladimir Meciar and the comparison with Trump, but in regard of the context, I immediatly thought of Zhirinovsky ITTL and I looked for references to him in the TL but I didn't find (my last recollection of the region being covered ITTL was more about Hungarian and Romanian rivalry on a background of the Russian 'invasion' ). Is there any significant change ITTL to Slovakia? If there was an update about it, please tell me which one.
Given what I read on Meciar wiki page, I imagine he would have naturally made friend with Zhirinovsky.
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Given what I read on Meciar wiki page, I imagine he would have naturally made friend with Zhirinovsky.
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Bookmark1995
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Meciar would have probably been shown the door sooner rather than later.
The Slovakians, having endured decades of Communist rule, would certainly despise Zhirinovsky.
I've just come to wonder how France is reacting to the crisis in Dominica. We saw reactions from USA, UK and UIS, but since the island is sitting halfway between Guadeloupe and Martinique, two French departments that are legally paramount to metropolitan soil, I don't see how it wouldn't affect France, not only because of safety concerns, but also on account of possible refugee crisis. Also, I remember Chirac was convicted in 2009 for matters relating to Congo, but has he won in 2002 or is the socialist Lionel Jospin the current president?
Gian
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The update actually stated that Armenia annexed part of Nakhichevan, with the rest turned into a separate republic within the UIS
I just read the entire timeline, and I have to say, Pellegrino, I applaud you for creating such a nightmarish and well thought out world.