Yugoslavia War with Soviet Union?

IIRC Yugoslavia has been unaligned during the Cold War.

Would the Yugoslavia Wars had been possible if the Soviet Union has remained a political factor?

Could it have been turned into another proxy war between the US and the Soviets?
 
Unlikely. The Yugoslav government collapsed because of the events started by the withdrawal of American aid and active US efforts to undermine the Yugoslav Socialist Federal Republic. Tito played the US perfectly. Tito obviously didn't get on with Stalin, and would never give up his nation's sovereignty, so there was never any danger that the Yugoslavs would ally with the Soviets. But they made it sound like they would in their dealings with the Americans. So the Americans provided aid for not allying with the Soviets. Once the USSR collapsed, the US had no reason to keep providing aid. Milovan Dilas hadn't run the economy very well in the 80s, and so a collapsed USSR makes it very difficult to preserve Yugoslavia's existence.
 
In this case, I am talking about the possibility of the Yugoslavia Wars in a timeline where the Soviet Union did not collapse.
 

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In this case, I am talking about the possibility of the Yugoslavia Wars in a timeline where the Soviet Union did not collapse.
Possible, and it could get bloodier actually, if the Soviets intervene. To prevent the wars, Milošević must not be allowed to come into power.
 
Colllier's magazine published a future scenario about war between Yugoslavia and USSR in the 1950s.Believe it is called Preview of the War we don't want.Try Wikipedia for WW3 scenarios.I believe this one is mentioned.
 
Mario Rossi has done a bit of research into this sort of scenario for something I'm writing. Might be worth sending him a PM.

Thank you for the promotion, Jan, 1981 should be available in a couple of weeks :)

On topic: before laying out something, I think it is important to define how exactly the USSR is surviving. Bear in mind, for example, that serious signs of deterioration of political scenario in some peripheral zones of the Soviet Union were already popping up around the mid-1985, that leaving apart the economic question, in a kind of sense bounded to the policies decided by Moscow and their implementation across the country.
 
My understanding part of the reason for the Yugoslavia war was that even thought Tito keep nationalism to a minimum his successor Milošević played up Serbian nationalism so he could remain in power and that in turn nationalized the rest of the country more
 
Thank you for the promotion, Jan, 1981 should be available in a couple of weeks :)

On topic: before laying out something, I think it is important to define how exactly the USSR is surviving. Bear in mind, for example, that serious signs of deterioration of political scenario in some peripheral zones of the Soviet Union were already popping up around the mid-1985, that leaving apart the economic question, in a kind of sense bounded to the policies decided by Moscow and their implementation across the country.

This is for my work on 'Seeing Further', where economic reforms, a big space program and a lack of an Afghanistan War keeps the Soviet Union from collapsing. (maybe also some deus ex machina)

Also the point in the timeline is where the Soviets go for bread and games, rather than the lash to keep East Europe in line. Or rather export the economic reforms and allow some more independence for their satellite states.

My understanding part of the reason for the Yugoslavia war was that even thought Tito keep nationalism to a minimum his successor Milošević played up Serbian nationalism so he could remain in power and that in turn nationalized the rest of the country more

AFAIK that is a big reason for the wars.
 
My understanding part of the reason for the Yugoslavia war was that even thought Tito keep nationalism to a minimum his successor Milošević played up Serbian nationalism so he could remain in power and that in turn nationalized the rest of the country more

From what I know (and this could be a vast oversimplification), Tito essentially operated on the basis that the rest of the Yugoslavs heavily resenting the total Serbian dominance of the Kingdom was what led the Croatians to support the German/Italian puppet state so heavily in WWII, so he moved to balance out the Serb plurality by creating the autonomous provinces of Vojvodina and Kosovo, a system which largely worked because Tito was Tito and could keep the system going.

By the time we get to Milosevic, he considered that as the Serbs were the largest single group (though not the overall majority), they should naturally have the largest role in Yugoslavia, which tapped into the feelings that the Croatians had been rewarded for turning to Hitler and the Serbs punished by the system Tito had set up, and his retoric thus amplified it. Once you add in the economic problems with Milosevic's increasing use of Serbian nationalism to improve his support base, and particlarly once Milosevic started puppetising the Vojvodinian, Kosovoan and Montenegrin representatives on the Yugoslav council, the other republics started making efforts to secede, and then Milosevic supported the Serbs efforts to counter secede, and the rest is history.

But again, I'm probably missing out a lot of nuance here.
 
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