Yugoslavia/Greece in warsaw pact

nastle

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if the yugoslav communists had been more loyal to their comrades in Moscow and greek civil war had been decided in the favor of communists then what effect this would have had on the warsaw pact ?
 
if the yugoslav communists had been more loyal to their comrades in Moscow and greek civil war had been decided in the favor of communists then what effect this would have had on the warsaw pact ?

Much better position for them in the Mediterranean. Might have contributed to Turkey going communist as well, which would have given the Russkies inroads into the wider Middle East.
 
Much better position for them in the Mediterranean. Might have contributed to Turkey going communist as well, which would have given the Russkies inroads into the wider Middle East.

The Warsaw Pact is so transparently perceived as good old fashioned Russian imperialism that I doubt the Turks would go Soviet based on that alone. In fact you can be damn sure the west will provide much more aid to Turkey and ensure the civilian Turkish government doesn't become too red.
 
Moscow might take steps to keep Greece out in that situation, the widely agreed-upon deal was that Greece was a no-no for the Soviets, that cuts off a very geographically important point in Southern Europe that then goes to the communists, the West will positively FREAK OUT if Greece makes a move towards Moscow.
 

Cook

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Which Greek Civil War are we referring to here; the one after the German garrison withdrew or the Post War Civil War?
The difference is significant.
 

nastle

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Moscow might take steps to keep Greece out in that situation, the widely agreed-upon deal was that Greece was a no-no for the Soviets, that cuts off a very geographically important point in Southern Europe that then goes to the communists, the West will positively FREAK OUT if Greece makes a move towards Moscow.
They might freak out but what can they do to actively prevent that ?
Maybe encourage Turkey to attack Greece
 
They might freak out but what can they do to actively prevent that ?
Maybe encourage Turkey to attack Greece

Nah, more like undermine them through every possible means woth espionage and sabotage, encouraging another Greco-Turkish War with Cold War poliics behind it all is an invitation for things to get nasty rather quickly.
 
You'd need President Byrnes or Wallace, both of which are easy to achieve. The convention was a close run thing, and FDR didn't seem to mind any of the three getting the nod.
 
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