Discussion in 'Alternate History Discussion: Before 1900' started by Glen, Dec 21, 2010.
Unfortunately, the Pitt family is already rather well known.
The Pinters were Czech immigrants who went to Texas in the 1840s, I think.
A bit of a bump.
Feel free to use the following surnames if you wish:
This is kind of cool. I'll submit a few names of ancestors if you don't mind...
Horace N. Miller (OTL a vet of Gettysburg) and his son Ellsworth C. Miller
Could you please include a Mr. Jack Goodwin (my grandad) when you get into the 1930s? He was a footballer
Could you include a friend of mine's great-grandfather, one Alexander Chuzakov (not sure if I got the spelling right)? IIRC, he fought during the Great War on the Eastern Front in Galicia, and fought for the Russian Whites in the Far East during the RCW, so he would be around 1910-1925 or so.
My surname is a pretty generic English one - 'Lowe'. But you could probably find some use for my clan - 'Stewart'. Literally half my family is Scottish.
Hebrard - French, was supposed to be L'ebrard or something like that
O'Loughlin - Irish. Speaks for itself
Dossor - was O'Dossor, O'Doser or other variations of the like. Irish/Scottish background. was told by my high-school scottish teacher that it is apparently a slang word for 'street-rat' or something like that.
Jean-Baptiste Bertrand otherwise known as John Barton who moved to Upper NY west of Plahtsburg in 1839ish from Quebec/Lower Canada and lived well into 1880ish and his son John (1840) and his son Fred (1860ish) and his son Fred (1880ish)... Granted by this point I think my Italian/Irish relatives are just arriving in New York City.
I can't remember whether I've posted here already but I'll do it anyway just in case
My name is Robert Hugh Mumby. I'm named after my great uncle Bob on my Mum's side and my Grandad Hughy on my Dad's. The most interesting thing to come out of my Dad's side is the enigmatic Jabez Lion. No-one is quite sure who he was.
More interesting things from my mum's side. My great-great-Grandad was a Burdette and an ardent socialist. We are all British and from the East Midlands.
If we can still ask for cameos :
You can use my real name (see user profile) and throw my fictional counterpart into an Austro-Hungarian context (if it fits). Thanks in advance.
Here's a couple for you, Glen, since you were kind enough to post on my thread:
The Ladd family's been in Pa. for about 200 years so if you ever needed a Keystoner you could use that.
I've also got Tift and Powell, maternal and paternal families respectively. I do believe my maternal great-grandmother was of Norwegian extraction and may have been born somewhere in the Mid-North though I'm not sure where, or what her maiden name was(My mother's family was hugely diverse, btw. Finns, Dutchmen, Irish, and Norwegians could all be found, along with many others.).
On the other hand, my paternal family seems to stretch all the way back to the Colonial Era.
My surname is Kruk (that's mean raven in polish)-it's quite common in my region (Lublin Province), my name wasn't very popular until recently, but you can use my great-grandfather name-Jan. I would be happy to see some prusso-polish character with my surname.
I have family in Bavaria, Prussia and Silesia, the Merhoffs and De Wolfs. The Merhoffs have two branches, the Bavarian one, which is older, and the Prussian one, which is a group of the family which became Lutheran after the reformation, and moved to Prussia. An example is the WWI vet from East Prussia, Wilhelm.
The De Wolfs are Silesian, and were fierce Catholics, as well as being fairly wealthy. An example is Franz, a businessman at the beginning 20th century.
In Italy, I have some Bolognese peasants that I am related to called the Gnavvi, like two rather learned local farmers, Pietro and Giovanni, and a few Romans know as the Santarelli. They were pretty wealthy, until my great-great-grandfather, Giuseppi squandered his money on the pope.
Some examples, in case you need them Glen.
You won't believe this, but I have a great-grandfather named Pearlie Ambrose Beloof. (Yes, a boy named Pearlie. Try not to think about what his childhood was like.) He was born in 1880 in Sedgwick, Kansas.
Nobody seems to know much about the Beloofs, or even what nationality they were, but they must have come to the United States some time before the late nineteenth century.
I'll add mine to the pot.
My own name is Micheal(family spelling) Tischmak, and for added variety in names, my most prominent ancestors and relatives from the past 500 or so years are: Ernest Snider (my great grandfather, a mailman, prolific golfer and "the mayor of indiana avenue"), Sherman Martin (my great great uncle, I'm told that he is a close relative of Glenn L. Martin, who is the martin of Lockheed Martin), Micheal Richards (my great uncle, owner of a small graphic design firm), Erastus P. Bingham (a distant relation and mormon pioneer who lent his name to but did not own that monstrous eyesore that is the bingham canyon copper mine here in utah), and David Snider (my uncle, he is a regional level manger for whole foods).
I live in Salt Lake City where I form part of the most geographically removed branch of my father's family, the majority of them live in montana and the dakotas. most of my mother's family lives in utah, though a large portion of it recently moved to Oregon.
on my mother's side I come from a heavily mormon background, though she, like most of her generation has left the church. I myself am irreligious. my maternal grandmother comes from the richards family, which I know next to nothing about, they like to claim though that they are in some way descended from Richard the lion-hearted. today the bulk of the family are farmers in idaho, other than that I'm under the impression that they come from new england, and from the english midlands before that. my mother's father is a snider, and my understanding of their history is that they originated in north germany, maybe prussia, and came to america probably in the 1820's where they landed in pennsylvania then moved westward over successive generations, passing through indiana at one point. I am told that a snider from pennsylvania fought for the north during the civil war.
the martin family which produced my father's mother is another that I know little about, my understanding is that they are mostly irish but with a healthy dose of the germano-nordic cocktail that pervades the northern plains. the Tischmaks are, I'm told, volga germans who migrated at some point to live on the black sea coast (I'm not fully sure where, one version says bessarabia, another crimea, and yet another kuban) and lived there for some time before in 1919 they moved to north dakota, fleeing the violence of the russian civil war.
I'm told Tischmak means tablemaker, which my imperfect but expanding knowledge of german supports, the standard form is Tischler(other variations would be: carpenter, carpentier, zimmermann, cooper, cartwright, wheeler, or other such titles for woodworking professions), and I'm told that tischmak is a low german variation, in any case it would appear that woodworking has stayed in the family or a long time, I learned quite a bit from my father who built theatrical sets for many years, and he in turn learned most of what he knows from his father who strung phone lines for a living but built furniture in his spare time.
if any of this is useful to you for the TL, use it any time, any place, and any way you need. though if I can state a preferance it would be involvement in advancing labor relations.
Cool stuff, Mike. I got some tidbits of my own, btw.
While unpacking some old stuff, my mother found an old genealogical research paper that revealed a very interesting tidbit about my grandpa Bob's(my mother's dad) family; His father's family apparently went back to the colonial era too.....to the Carolinas and Georgia of all places.
Even better, I found that I'm related to the Bozeman family. Dave Howery and other Montanans might be really interested because one of this family's members lent their name to a fairly sizable town in southwest part of that state. And, as a bonus, another name that may interest would be Elizabeth Holderby, another one of my direct ancestors. She may not have been a world-famous celebrity, either, but she was directly descended from the one of the families who founded Carmi, Illinois, so that may count for something, possibly.
I'm just curious, is this thread still open? If so, I'd like to toss my name in the hat.
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