Incorrect, it's rightful land of the Latin EmpireI agree, that land is rightful Rhomanian land, get those bloody Greeks outta there:
Your Ideal European Borders?
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Technically Greece was supposed to get Adrianople, but close enough I guess.
What the 50 year long "Empire" who's vassals outlived it? Get outta here.
What about a Europe that didn't kill each other over every border dispute, leading to the development of a more prosperous western world?
Disgusting oder border is disgusting
Why do you have Germany with Austria and eslass but not Luxembourg, sud Tirol and better eastern borders?
A united Ireland for one, and a balkanized UK. But I would also balkanize Germany, and other countries that could be several. Catalonia, Basque Country, Galicia, Brittany, Isle of Man etc
"Other countries that could be several"
So most countries? Including Ireland.
Well the question was my ideal borders, I support Irish unification and getting rid of Monarchist nations, like Spain and Britain. Honestly seems like this should be in chat.
This map requires at least a 13th century POD to work with a few things merged here and there and others balkanized:
-balkanized Spain > Leon/Galicia, Castile, Granada, Basque/Navarra, Aragon, Catalonia
-balkanized France > France proper, Brittany, Occitania, Arles, Lorrain/Franche-Comte
-Belgium gets Artois and Luxemburg, Netherlands gets East Frisia
-balkanized Germany: Julich-Cleves-Berg, Lower Saxony/ Hannover, Brandenburg-Pomerania, Saxony, Franconia-Hesse, Swabia-Bavaria
-balkanized Italy: Piedmont-Genoa, Tuscany, Lombardy, Venice, Romagna, Rome, Two Sicilies, and Corsica-Sardinia
-Slovenia gets Carinthia, Dalmatia exists (I blame Iluvitar and Dalmatia Ascendant), Albania loses north Epirus but gains Kosovo, and the other Balkan states have some border changes
-whoops my byzantophilia is showing~
-Trebizond remains its own state, as does Cilicia, Crimea, and Circassia
-independent Assyria and Kurdistan, united Armenia
-united Ireland, Wales-Cornwall, independent Scotland... and an independent Lordship of the Isles
-Danish Scania, Norwegian Jamtland, but Sapmi, Finland, and Karelia exist in this giant northern block together
-Novgorod stands proud against Muscovy, while Ruthenia-Ukraine sits below Belarus
-Poland has the Danzig Corridor but Prussia is its own state(a Baltic/German state most likely); Silesia is independent and also holds Lusatia
-weird Maghrebi borders: one is the Moroccan Arab state, the two others are 2 berber states; West Algeria is Algeria, east is Kabylia
I forget the context I created this map for, but this is one option I came up with a few years ago. I'm not really there anymore (I'm much, much more of an Austrophile these days) but here it is:
Slovakia in PLC doesn't make a ton of sense but I think I was of the frame of mind that it belonged more in a multi-ethnic complex with other Slavic countries than it did in Germany or Hungary. Were I making this map today I'd probably just leave it independent. It's a little better than OTL (especially if/with no WW2, genocide, etc) but, as I Said, the Austria issue now bothers me
Slovakia in PLC doesn't make a ton of sense but I think I was of the frame of mind that it belonged more in a multi-ethnic complex with other Slavic countries than it did in Germany or Hungary. Were I making this map today I'd probably just leave it independent. It's a little better than OTL (especially if/with no WW2, genocide, etc) but, as I Said, the Austria issue now bothers me