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In the same sense that the UK was major Nazi 1600-1960.why can't people digest that Prussia was mini Nazi ?
In the same sense that the UK was major Nazi 1600-1960.why can't people digest that Prussia was mini Nazi ?
Well, that's a week on the bench.In the same sense that the UK was major Nazi 1600-1960.
FTFYParliament believed, in the name of unproved paranoia fostered by an RN fearful of budget cuts, that Germany would come for France after Russia and Britain after France. So they will try to defeat Germany while they still can and it has been consistent British foreign policy for more than 200 years since the Nine Years war to fomenting and prolonging intra-European wars in the name of militaristic and ultra-jingoistic expansionism. In addition to the totally unjustified paranoia that any hypothetical "European dominant power" would have as its main priority raising its flag in London and destroying Great Britain without any clear reason for it.
Because they aren't and believing this is just digesting British propaganda.why can't people digest that Prussia was mini Nazi ?
I think this person was trying to highlight that Prussia was just an imperialist power no different than it’s peers, in an attempt to point out the poor logic of the responding post. Like, “If X is a Nazi then Y is too. See how bad that sounds?”Well, that's a week on the bench.
Would have been a 10 on the Nationalist insult score if it wasn't for the 8.7 from the East German Judge.
What's that supposed to mean? Nazis were ultranationalists, Prussia was just a tiny bit more militaristic than France or Russia.why can't people digest that Prussia was mini Nazi ?
Parliament knew that Germany would come for France after Russia and Britain after France. So they will try to defeat Germany while they still can and it has been consistent British foreign policy for more than 200 years since the Nine Years war to prevent a Hegemon on Mainland Europe
why can't people digest that Prussia was mini Nazi ?
Because they aren't and believing this is just digesting British propaganda.
Or the US because of what happened to Native Americans when it expanded westward or Filipinos during the Philippine-American War. Imperialism was pretty horrible no matter who was perpetrating it. Still doesn’t make any of the powers who did it as cartoonishly evil as the Third Reich.Which even most Brits wouldn't take seriously these days.
Was Australia "Nazi" because of what happened to the Tasmanian Aborigines?
At least the previous poster believes this.Which even most Brits wouldn't take seriously these days.
Uhm, what? I think no one is talking about Australia.Was Australia "Nazi" because of what happened to the Tasmanian Aborigines?
Essentially this. One thing is imperialism and another is the cartoonishly evil exaggeration that was Hitlerian Germany. Both are horrible, but the second one is exaggeratedly more horrible than the first.Or the US because of what happened to Native Americans when it expanded westward or Filipinos during the Philippine-American War. Imperialism was pretty horrible no matter who was perpetrating it. Still doesn’t make any of the powers who did it as cartoonishly evil as the Third Reich.
Britain cannot feed itself, it has to import some 50% of its food, what's more a huge portion of it has to be delivered directly to London's docks and if not some 30% of the population of London will have to be evacuated to where it can be fed. A renewed uboat campaign from bases in northern and western France will be a nightmare. Britain will not be able to defeat Germany, yet its likely that without the Western or Eastern Fronts Germany can put its effort into reversing the situation in the Middle East.
The idea is supposed to be that Germany will manage to impose a naval blockade that prevents the UK from importing food because it turns out that shipping companies do not like to put their ships in active war zones. Which they almost did in both world wars with their submarine campaign (Germany's problem was that unrestricted submarine warfare gave the US an excuse to intervene on the UK side).Why couldn't Britain import food, if they are still controlling the seas?
They probably would have to negotiate a peace anyways, but I doubt that would be the reason.
Why couldn't Britain import food, if they are still controlling the seas?
They probably would have to negotiate a peace anyways, but I doubt that would be the reason.
Uhm, what? I think no one is talking about Australia.
My point was to say that to believe that Prussia was a Nazi, or mini-Nazi, as someone previously said, requires an extremely pro-British point of view AFAIK.Precisely my point. No one considers it "Nazi" because it wasn't. Nor was old Prussia.
You could find strongly antisemitic idiots in every country of the time including France, Austria-Hungary, the UK, Germany and lets not get started on Russia which was by far the worst for the jews at the time I think.I came across a couple of Prussian dudes on Wikipedia while doing a light scan on the liberal Kaiser Frederick III that struck me as proto Nazis. I'm sure if Nazi was a word back then, one with the weight it has today amongst responsible academics, Frederick and his wife would have called these dudes Nazis.
Heinrich von Treitschke - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Adolf Stoecker - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
From the following article:
Frederick III, German Emperor - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
"During an effort led, between 1879 and 1881, by the völkisch historian Heinrich von Treitschke and the court chaplain, Adolf Stoecker, to dis-emancipate German Jews, the Crown Prince and Crown Princess were in opposition, Victoria writing that she saw "Treitschke and his supporters as lunatics of the most dangerous sort", and opining that Pastor Stoecker properly belonged in an insane asylum."
To me, Prussia seems like it was a heavily divided society, and even if there were those with Nazi adjacent views, Germany was not a totalitarian nation back then where politicians that tried to reform the state in a more liberal and progressive direction still had their say.
Treitschke was held in high regard by political elites of Prussia. Bernhard von Bülow, chancellor from 1900 to 1909, personally declared that he kept a copy of von Treitschke's book for "several years" on his desk.You could find strongly antisemitic idiots in every country of the time including France, Austria-Hungary, the UK, Germany and lets not get started on Russia which was by far the worst for the jews at the time I think.