You in charge of Star Trek: TNG 2010

Didn't read thread, or watch much of New Generation, so excuse me if this is a non-started but

Always dislike the BOrg. They are to wanked with their quick adjustments to any attack.

THough a great limitation would be that they can adjust to any energy or high tech attack, which would be most weapons we see in Trek.

However, melee weapons, such as swords or those big Klingon hacking things...:cool:

Gives the Klingons a reason to walk about with primitive looking armor and pointy weapons.

Maybe shootguns too. Shotguns are always good.;)
 
Except that melee weapons have always been depicted as effective against Borg--Worf used his blade on them in FC with little problem. Species 8472 also had no trouble in just slicing them up...although if you thought the Borg were wank...
 
Except that melee weapons have always been depicted as effective against Borg--Worf used his blade on them in FC with little problem. Species 8472 also had no trouble in just slicing them up...although if you thought the Borg were wank...

Then why didn't we see more of that?

ANd for my change, we see more of that.:)

Get some good fight stunt coordintators.

Nothing says good space opera like sword fights!!
 
What I figure is that the Enterprise-(insert letter) would be flagship of the exploratory wing of the fleet. This wing would comprise approximately 4/7ths of the entire fleet, comprising mainly of deep space explorers, long-ranged science vessels, and exploratory outposts. Vessels in this divison have low to moderate levels of defensive weapons (OTL Ent-D is considered the upper bounds of moderate level). They generally try to negotiate, but are willing to defend themselves. Like the Ent-D, these ships may have a larger number of civilians on board

Another wing would be a disaster assistance and logistics, composing around 1/7th of the fleet. This would comprise of medical ships, transports vessels, and the rarely seen recovery vessels (read: salvage vessels; you really don't want Ferengi to pry through destroyed hulks for advanced technology, do you?). These vessels are usually unarmed, being the equivalent of present-day hospital ships.


The more contentious issue would be the defense wing of the Fleet. Generally smaller, moderate-to-heavily armed vessels comprise this fleet, with only a dozen "heavies". They only comprise 2/7ths of the fleet and is primarily tasked with defending federation member planets and starbases. Generally, the more militant officers (ie, analogs of Admirals Jellico, Nacheyev, among others) are a member of this section of the fleet.

That's my take, any thoughts?
I like this. Sensible yet Star Trek-like.

Should there be a science officer (or officers) on TNG 2010?
Well, OTL TNG did have scientists -- just no one with the title "chief science officer" like Spock was. The duties of the Science Officer on the bridge seemed to be split between Data and Worf, actually.
 
Lorien, you're on the same page as I am

Check out my 2nd post about TOS. Long story shorter, I decided to mix tropes and make the Big E a ship for the Scouts, Federation Exploration Service, whatever you wanted to call it instead of a standard Starfleet military vessel.
They'd do the exploration, scientific analysis, mapping, first contact, recon of foreign powers, intel gathering, spec ops, stuff independent operators would do instead of standard ships of the line.
 
Casting

One thing I forgot earlier - in 2010, such a high-profile re-imagination of a sci-fi classic would almost certainly involve one or two well-known actors. This is where things probably differ from the 80's when Hollywood and TV were rather separate places human-ressources-wise.

Now, Keanu Reeves would be a bit too much, probably, but we could look one level lower.

(Yes, I know and enjoy seeing Patrick Steward in Little Lord Fauntleroy [each year prior to Christmas on German TV] as well as in Lynch's Dune....just as well as Frakes in North&South).

Just had a funny though - if we stick to a French Capitaine...how about using a real Frenchman and give Jean Reno something different to play for a change.
 

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One thing I forgot earlier - in 2010, such a high-profile re-imagination of a sci-fi classic would almost certainly involve one or two well-known actors. This is where things probably differ from the 80's when Hollywood and TV were rather separate places human-ressources-wise.

Now, Keanu Reeves would be a bit too much, probably, but we could look one level lower.
But, but, Keanu Reeves would make the Perfect Data if they took the Word Dude out of his vocabulary.:)
 

Thande

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I would either have made Pickard a Yorkshireman and ask the actor to use his natural accent or had him sound French.

Patrick Stewart did originally audition for the role by putting on a French accent, but was told to drop it because he sounded like Inspector Clouseau.
 
I don't like the idea of Pickard sounding French.
I always just assumed he was speaking French and the UT made him sound English.
 
Patrick Stewart did originally audition for the role by putting on a French accent, but was told to drop it because he sounded like Inspector Clouseau.

Furthermore, he occasionally spouted the odd French word from time to time in the show IIRC but usually mangled the pronounciation.
 

Thande

Donor
Furthermore, he occasionally spouted the odd French word from time to time in the show IIRC but usually mangled the pronounciation.

Yeah, I think they dropped that after the first couple of series.

They seem to have gone for a translation convention thing, as Picard's family seen in the episode er... "Family" don't have French accents either. Although confusingly from the same episode, Worf's adopted Russian parents do have strong Russian accents (which has led some to question why Worf doesn't have a Russian accent...)
 
Star Trek X? Nemesis? Considered one of the worst of the film series? Or do you mean the latest movie? As for turning it into some sort of BSG-type military show (and we all know what BSG devolved into), I have to echo Thande.

Yes, I meant the newest one. A few other things that I thought of on my idea:

1. More emphasis on enlisted, showing their point of view on occasion, hell just showing them. I know why GB chose only officers, and all I can say is we'll agree to disagree.

2. No campy uniforms! TNG had the WORST effing uniforms and costuming in general. I always liked the DS9 and First Contact uniforms, they looked professional and set better tones.

3. I know I touched on it, but I am going to flat out say it; I always viewed Starfleet as a military, yes TNG loved to mention that they were an exploration and diplomatic service, however in Wrath of Khan; Kirk's son called Starfleet a military: "...I never trusted the military..."

4. No Borg, no Q and when you're creating an alien race, changing up the nose doesn't count.
 
Yeah, I think they dropped that after the first couple of series.

They seem to have gone for a translation convention thing, as Picard's family seen in the episode er... "Family" don't have French accents either. Although confusingly from the same episode, Worf's adopted Russian parents do have strong Russian accents (which has led some to question why Worf doesn't have a Russian accent...)

Inconsistencies like that are always weird.
The big one is that guy with the weird hair from Babylon 5. He has a eastern europeanish accent when speaking English which is nice, like he's a alien who is speaking English as a foreign language...Yet when he's speaking with other members of his race in scenes where they would be speaking their own language he keeps the same accent.
And most other members of his race speak better English than him despite him being the ambassador...
 
3. I know I touched on it, but I am going to flat out say it; I always viewed Starfleet as a military, yes TNG loved to mention that they were an exploration and diplomatic service, however in Wrath of Khan; Kirk's son called Starfleet a military: "...I never trusted the military..."
I see no contradiction in that, actually, and it is clear in almost all regards that the Enterprise is a military ship. It is part of a military chain of command, heavily armed, carries no cargo usually- what more do you need? Of course, StarFleet, due to the immense possibilities/different necessities of space exploration, is not in a comparable situation to, say, the US Navy of 2010, but rather of an updated version of some parts of 17th/18th centuries navies where exploration, diplomacy and conquest go hand in hand. Seen this way, despite all the friendly wording, Captain Picard is essentially on an Imperialist mission.

Of course, StarFleet has ships guarding Sol and other vital systems, practically a Home Fleet. But what would be the point of making a TV programme out of this- unless you base it on an all-out-war which is the point of Battlestar Galactica, but rather not of Star Trek.

We remember Admiral Nelson and we remember Captain Cook - but not the guys who competently ran the other hundreds of vessels the Royal Navy had.

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On a different note, what I always longed for during the tenure of TNG (which I grew up with and was very fond of) was an outlook on "normal" people [Reginald Barclay was, in the context of the Enterprise-D, just a misfit who apparently only by cheating or coincidence ended up in StarFleet.] and everyday life in a StarTrek future.
I mean, life in a place which is not the Enterprise and where not everybody is semi-perfect. Maybe a kind of "Futurama meets Picket Fences", set on a planet which is not colonized by billions, but has an established colony for a few decades already, and maybe native aliens (without superpowers, but no simple analogues to Native Americans either!). However, such an idea would be my wish for an early spin-off.
 
The big one is that guy with the weird hair from Babylon 5. He has a eastern europeanish accent when speaking English which is nice, like he's a alien who is speaking English as a foreign language...Yet when he's speaking with other members of his race in scenes where they would be speaking their own language he keeps the same accent.
And most other members of his race speak better English than him despite him being the ambassador...
Londo isn't the only Centauri with a European accent: Lord Refa has one as well (although his is slightly different -- more Russian and less Hungarian), as does Adira Tyree. Additionally, the other Centauri don't all have the same accent either: some sound American (Vir, Lady Morella), some sound English (Regent Virini), and some sound in-between (Turhan, Cartagia).

And this actually was explained behind the scenes: JMS said that Londo's accent is basically a translation convention to show that, in Centauri terms, he speaks like a yokel.

On a different note, what I always longed for during the tenure of TNG (which I grew up with and was very fond of) was an outlook on "normal" people [Reginald Barclay was, in the context of the Enterprise-D, just a misfit who apparently only by cheating or coincidence ended up in StarFleet.] and everyday life in a StarTrek future.
I mean, life in a place which is not the Enterprise and where not everybody is semi-perfect. Maybe a kind of "Futurama meets Picket Fences", set on a planet which is not colonized by billions, but has an established colony for a few decades already, and maybe native aliens (without superpowers, but no simple analogues to Native Americans either!). However, such an idea would be my wish for an early spin-off.
This kind of thing was featured in Deep Space Nine quite a few times.
 
This kind of thing was featured in Deep Space Nine quite a few times.

I agree and I actually thought of DS9 when I wrote this. But it was still too StarFleet, too alien, too frontier - too Tibet. I also concede that most Trekkies would have hated my mostly civilian spin-off, probably.
 
Two words: Shaky cam

Just kidding :D

But anyway I think I would probably detailed up the inner working of the federation and make the Klingon look more like a functionning society
 
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