You Gotta Have Hart: A Different 1988 and Beyond
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1988 Primaries Current Delegate Count
As of this moment on March 16th, 1988, this is the current raw delegate count for both parties (not adjusted for superdelegates)...
Current Democratic Delegate Count
Gary Hart : 656
Jesse Jackson: 497
Lee Iacocca: 439
Paul Simon: 260
Richard Gephardt: 6
Al Gore: 6
Current Republican Delegate Count
Dan Quayle: 762
George H.W. Bush: 633
Bob Dole: 612
Readers - do keep in mind the venues of the primaries that have taken place so far when considering the odds of each candidate.Gary Hart : 656
Jesse Jackson: 497
Lee Iacocca: 439
Paul Simon: 260
Richard Gephardt: 6
Al Gore: 6
Current Republican Delegate Count
Dan Quayle: 762
George H.W. Bush: 633
Bob Dole: 612
Gentleman Biaggi
Banned
During some of our - busy moments, Meyer and I have occasionally forgot somethings. *Cough* where Maryland stands in the US *Cough* That does not mean we can not fix these mistakes in the present, however. While clicking random links I found an article about the New Hampshire Vice Presidential Primary. Now, this seems like something perfect for this TL, because I said so. However, I discovered this three months too late. In order to fix that mistake, Meyer and I will be writing an update about this - just a bit late.
Also, to show how serious and important this is to the general election, here's the 1988 Democratic Results:
https://www.ourcampaigns.com/RaceDetail.html?RaceID=393638
Also, to show how serious and important this is to the general election, here's the 1988 Democratic Results:
https://www.ourcampaigns.com/RaceDetail.html?RaceID=393638
calbear please ban both of them
you’re doing an update on it
yessss
personal thoughts
1st place John delaney
2nd place jerry seinfeld
3rd place john hinckley
4th place ron paul
no
the creditistes will invade new england and louisiana to get revenge on ed muskie
we will win first through réal winning the nh vp primary
then he comes back to life
and then we take over canada new england france and the world
Flashback - 1988 New Hampshire Vice Presidential Primary
Gentleman Biaggi
Banned
February 17, 1988
While some last night were focused on the New Hampshire primary, some shocking results did appear on the New Hampshire Vice Presidential primary.
Shockingly, White Supremisist David Duke won the Democratic Vice-Presidential primary with over 98% of the vote.
Even more shockingly, Representative James Traficant of Ohio won the Republican primary. Traficant wasn’t even running and is in the Democratic Party. He won with 62% of the vote on write-ins. When Traficant heard the news he said “What the hell is the New Hampshire Vice Presidental Primary?” and walked away. This will lead to several delegates being pledged to the winning candidates, which could lead to an interesting convention on both sides
While some last night were focused on the New Hampshire primary, some shocking results did appear on the New Hampshire Vice Presidential primary.
Shockingly, White Supremisist David Duke won the Democratic Vice-Presidential primary with over 98% of the vote.
Even more shockingly, Representative James Traficant of Ohio won the Republican primary. Traficant wasn’t even running and is in the Democratic Party. He won with 62% of the vote on write-ins. When Traficant heard the news he said “What the hell is the New Hampshire Vice Presidental Primary?” and walked away. This will lead to several delegates being pledged to the winning candidates, which could lead to an interesting convention on both sides
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Simon's Endorsement
March 17th, 1988
"Barack, I hate to say it, but it's time." In the short time of the campaign, Paul Simon had found himself turning more and more to young Barack Obama for advice about various things. The young lawyer wasn't a yes man, and he told it like it was. In fact, this very characteristic was what caused Simon to see so much of himself in Obama.
"Come on, we can hang in a little longer! We just won Illinois!" Obama wasn't ready to give up. He had put his heart and soul into his work with the campaign, but if he was being honest with himself, he wanted Simon to stay in the race for his own reasons. He had found the campaign trail so much more interesting than legal work; the ups and downs of the trail had become almost like a drug for him, and he wasn't quite ready to give it up.
"As much as I hate to say it, It's time to face facts. There's no way we can catch up this late in the race. If we wait any longer, we'll be drowning in debt, and for what reason? We gave it our best shot, but it's time for me to go back to the Senate and for you to law school."
Obama reflected on this for a minute, the room silent as Simon watched him.
"Fine," Obama relented, "but what now? Who do you endorse?" Now it was Simon's turn to pause and think.
"Well, obviously I'm going to pick Iacocca!" Both he and Obama burst out laughing before Simon said, "Seriously, though - I know who I'm going to pick. Now, I'm going to write the speech. Can you go get the media vultures ready for tomorrow?"
Obama nodded and rose, walking towards the door. As he reached for the knob, Simon called to him.
"Barack," the old Senator said curtly, "you have a real future at this. Keep your head up."
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March 18th, 1988
"It is with a heavy heart that I must announce that I am officially ending my bid for President of the United States of America.
To all of you who voted for me, to those who sacrificed countless precious hours working for this campaign in all fifty states of this great nation, I thank you from the bottom of my heart. Each and every one of you worked your tails off, and if it wasn't for you, I'd still just be the zany, bow tie wearing guy from Illinois.
However, now is the time to accept that my dream of leading this great nation as President is over. It is time that I choose the man who I think will lead this country to the strongest future. The man who has the strongest record of fighting for Americans.
I have had the pleasure of working with this man for many years, and as such I can attest to his strength and intelligence. At a time like this, we need an experienced hand to lead us to prosperity.
We need Gary Hart as our President of the United States of America.
I look forward to helping Mr. Hart in any way I can and any way he sees fit. Once again, thank you to everyone who forwarded this common man's campaign for the highest office in the land. The ideas you believe in, and by extension you, will not be forgotten and will not be silenced!"
"Barack, I hate to say it, but it's time." In the short time of the campaign, Paul Simon had found himself turning more and more to young Barack Obama for advice about various things. The young lawyer wasn't a yes man, and he told it like it was. In fact, this very characteristic was what caused Simon to see so much of himself in Obama.
"Come on, we can hang in a little longer! We just won Illinois!" Obama wasn't ready to give up. He had put his heart and soul into his work with the campaign, but if he was being honest with himself, he wanted Simon to stay in the race for his own reasons. He had found the campaign trail so much more interesting than legal work; the ups and downs of the trail had become almost like a drug for him, and he wasn't quite ready to give it up.
"As much as I hate to say it, It's time to face facts. There's no way we can catch up this late in the race. If we wait any longer, we'll be drowning in debt, and for what reason? We gave it our best shot, but it's time for me to go back to the Senate and for you to law school."
Obama reflected on this for a minute, the room silent as Simon watched him.
"Fine," Obama relented, "but what now? Who do you endorse?" Now it was Simon's turn to pause and think.
"Well, obviously I'm going to pick Iacocca!" Both he and Obama burst out laughing before Simon said, "Seriously, though - I know who I'm going to pick. Now, I'm going to write the speech. Can you go get the media vultures ready for tomorrow?"
Obama nodded and rose, walking towards the door. As he reached for the knob, Simon called to him.
"Barack," the old Senator said curtly, "you have a real future at this. Keep your head up."
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March 18th, 1988
"It is with a heavy heart that I must announce that I am officially ending my bid for President of the United States of America.
To all of you who voted for me, to those who sacrificed countless precious hours working for this campaign in all fifty states of this great nation, I thank you from the bottom of my heart. Each and every one of you worked your tails off, and if it wasn't for you, I'd still just be the zany, bow tie wearing guy from Illinois.
However, now is the time to accept that my dream of leading this great nation as President is over. It is time that I choose the man who I think will lead this country to the strongest future. The man who has the strongest record of fighting for Americans.
I have had the pleasure of working with this man for many years, and as such I can attest to his strength and intelligence. At a time like this, we need an experienced hand to lead us to prosperity.
We need Gary Hart as our President of the United States of America.
I look forward to helping Mr. Hart in any way I can and any way he sees fit. Once again, thank you to everyone who forwarded this common man's campaign for the highest office in the land. The ideas you believe in, and by extension you, will not be forgotten and will not be silenced!"
Interesting update. With Barack being given an early look into politics, could we envision an earlier political career for the young man?
Also, I can see the odds are becoming stacked in Hart's favor...
Also, I can see the odds are becoming stacked in Hart's favor...
Gentleman Biaggi
Banned
Because @Meyer London and I are crusty old folks (he said in a screechy 13-year-old voice) we’ve decided to make an Uber mega update with the rest of the primaries
So prepare your body, and if I don’t post it’s because @Oppo ‘s ‘incentivizing (threatening) me’ to make l e e the nomi n e e
So prepare your body, and if I don’t post it’s because @Oppo ‘s ‘incentivizing (threatening) me’ to make l e e the nomi n e e
As The Gentleman stated above, we felt (and maybe you did too) that the plot is slightly dragging to the intensiveness of the primary coverage. So, we're going for the home run.
Also, in the good news department! Myself and @President_Lincoln (author of Blue Skies in Camelot) decided to make a 1976 TL that we just posted called Ford The River Carter : A Timeline By President Lincoln and Meyer London. If you like YGHH, I would definitely recommend checking it out.
Also, The Gentleman has been busy with his own solo work, Twists and Turns: An Alternate 1952 and Beyond. I'm reading it (of my own will, I promise), and it's great!
Okay, enough self promotion for one night!
Also, in the good news department! Myself and @President_Lincoln (author of Blue Skies in Camelot) decided to make a 1976 TL that we just posted called Ford The River Carter : A Timeline By President Lincoln and Meyer London. If you like YGHH, I would definitely recommend checking it out.
Also, The Gentleman has been busy with his own solo work, Twists and Turns: An Alternate 1952 and Beyond. I'm reading it (of my own will, I promise), and it's great!
Okay, enough self promotion for one night!