Xamm Anim

Interesting, I'll have to look into that.

Do you know where the name comes from? The names look Greek, but I'd assume that they're Libyan or Phoenician in origion.

I think Zeugitana may indeed be the Greek form of the Punic name. The name often came up in the Roman administrative reforms of Africa Proconsularis. Byzacena seems to have been the name for the southern part of ancient Tunisia, with its capital being Adrumeto/Hadrumentum (modern Sousse).
 
Hey Monopolist, would you mind if I made a map of the current situation in the Mediterranean?
If you want to, that's fine (can't have enough maps!), though I should mention that Arrix had made a Mediterranean map for my last update, so you might want to wait for the next big territory change or whatever before you make one.
 
If you want to, that's fine (can't have enough maps!), though I should mention that Arrix had made a Mediterranean map for my last update, so you might want to wait for the next big territory change or whatever before you make one.

What area remains to be touched by maps?
 
You could do a map of the Greek East, like Asia Minor/Egypt and east to the Indus maybe, and show a more accurate picture of what that looks like 200 BC than what I've done - IIRC, my map(s) of the area use kind of rounded borders and stuff, and could be improved upon. Other than that... maybe a close up on Carthage's African Empire? Those would be the two main ones I can think of, though I could think of something else later. Doesn't matter which one you want to do.
 
Punic cities of North Africa:

Tunisia
Qart-Hadasht/Carthage

Atiqa/Utica

Adrumeto/Hadrumentum

Kerkouane

Tripolitania

Oea (modern Tripoli)

Lepki/Leptis Magna

Sabratha

Algeria

Icosium (Punic Yksm/modern Algiers)

Ippone (Hippo Regius/modern Annaba)

Iol/Jol (modern Cherchall)

Tipasa (modern Tipaza)

Igigili (modern Jijel)

Malaca (modern Guelma)

Cirta (later OTL Numidian capital), which was miles inland and its port-city of Russicada.

Morocco

Lixus (modern Larache)

Tingis (modern Tangier)

Arambys (Mogodor)

Sala (or Chellah)
 
Here are some offices employed by the Ptolemies during their dynastic rule.
Perhaps they might still be useful.

Ptolemaic Administration of Egypt

Dioiketes: A title originally given, it seems, to stewards of a private estate. In Ptolemy's Egypt, this title would become the Greek pharoah's head of fiscal affairs in the kingdom.

Hypodioiketes: A regional-based deputy of the royal dioiketes that operated at nome (district) level.

Eklogistes: They were accountants and secretaries to the Dioiketes and their regional sub-managers. The Eklogisterion seems to be the Hellenic term for a chancery.

Other offices...

Grammateus ton Dynameon (Quartemaster-General of the Army).

Archyperetes (Chief Paymaster).

Epistrategos: There were two of these, and they were viceroys of Upper and Lower Egypt, or Thebais and Chora (with the exception of Alexandria, which was a city-state in its own right) respectively.

Epistolographos (king's own secretary).

Hypomnematographos (king's writer of memoranda).

Epigonoi (royal couriers).
 
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Would the rebels of Upper Egypt under the secessionist Pharoah Ankhmakis use either Ptolemais Hermiou or Thebes (known by the Greeks as Diospolis, city of Zeus) as their capital before later capturing the northern kingdom? Personally, I think it would be Thebes, given its historical and religious importance to the Rmt (native Egyptians) of Upper Egypt.

Also, would the future Ankhmakid dynasty be reaching out diplomatically to the Carthaginians in the years to come, where the future Malik of Carthage would have to choose between supporting them or their Seleucid relatives?
 
Well... after nearly a couple months of yet another hiatus, I'm going to officially put this aside for a while - I'll probably either continue this at some point in the future, or start a fourth Hannibal timeline in a while (probably depends on how different the whole thing would be if/when I revise it), but for the time being I think I might try a new project. Apologies to those of you that have liked the thread, especially because I've really enjoyed a lot of the discussions on here and I've learned an absolute ton of stuff through this thread on Carthage and the ancient world, but I just haven't had a whole lot of interest/motivation to work on this TL like I have had for a couple other ideas I might try, and don't think it's fair to keep you guys waiting for a while for something that's probably not going to happen for a good bit of time.

Now, while I'm making this announcement, I may as well attention whore some more, and ask you guys which of the two ideas you'd rather see me try - maybe it'll get some early advertising ;) - so here they are:

Alexander the Great TL - I've been doing a lot of reading on him recently, and so naturally my head goes to AH. Now, Alex has been a very used subject in AH - I know that - but I think I can make a fairly unique version. For starters, my PoD isn't him surviving his disease or not getting it in Babylon June 323; instead, my PoD is probably going to be Hephaestion's survival, which would butterfly Alex's death. For the stuff he does, well, I won't share all my ideas now, but I have a pretty solid plan of what will happen. Just know that Alexander will have plenty more campaigning, conquests, and executions (Hooray!) ITTL.

Croesus asks for Spartan assistance before invading Persia TL - Don't have a good name for this one yet; anyways, the idea is that Croesus decides before invading Persia to have the Spartans send an army to bolster their chances of fulfilling Croesus' interpretation of Delphi's prophecy. This of course stops Persia's rise to power, which keeps powers such as Babylon and Egypt still independent, which I think would be interesting. Also, Greece will be changed fairly drastically too due to this, as Sparta gains a really powerful overseas friend during the early years of its OTL rise to preeminence over the Peloponnese. I don't have a lot of the more in depth details decided on yet, so the Alexander TL is probably a lot safer of a thought in that regard, but I think this is amongst my more original ideas and I'm fairly proud of it. :cool:

Thoughts? Just looking for a couple quick responses to tell me which you all are more interested in and if I have any gaping holes in my logic. If you've got an opinion or something and don't want to post publicly just PM me and I'd be excited to talk to you on your thoughts, so that you could expose me as the n00b I truly am. :eek:;):p Again, I do plan on eventually resurrecting Xamm Anim in some form, whether it's a fourth version or if I continue this thread right as though I never stopped, just not for a while.
 
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Alexander the Great, so long as Carthage is left alone. I think a longer-lived Alexander could have potential- will a new Helleno-Aegypto-Persian culture arise at court in Babylon? Will the Mauryans be beaten back.

I'll miss this TL- it has been one of my perennial favorites, and I eagerly wait its return.
 

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the Alexander TL. Even if it was really difficult to choose. Go with the one you're more comfortable with :)
 

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Donor
Damn, I was so looking forward to the next update.

I hope you resurrect this one, as is, because you went a long way with it.

Totally sharing the feeling (in the previous thread I forgot to state something that it may not be that obvious).

The complexity and the amount of research behind this ATL are matched by few others.
 
Alexander the Great, so long as Carthage is left alone. I think a longer-lived Alexander could have potential- will a new Helleno-Aegypto-Persian culture arise at court in Babylon? Will the Mauryans be beaten back.

I'll miss this TL- it has been one of my perennial favorites, and I eagerly wait its return.

the Alexander TL. Even if it was really difficult to choose. Go with the one you're more comfortable with :)

Damn, I was so looking forward to the next update.

I hope you resurrect this one, as is, because you went a long way with it.

No. :(

This was truly one of the best timelines I read.

Totally sharing the feeling (in the previous thread I forgot to state something that it may not be that obvious).

The complexity and the amount of research behind this ATL are matched by few others.

Seriously, thanks all of you guys and everyone else that's read and/or commented on the thread. I'm just glad people enojoyed it enough to care that I'm putting this off for a while! And don't worry, too much of my actually reading real history stuff and getting to know more in depth stuff, as opposed to "yeah I got an A in history class that means I'm a genius", comes from reading on Hannibal and the Second Punic War, so I can nearly guarantee I'll do something with this again, and I hope that something improves upon this something. Just in the meantime, I think I want to try something new, and hopefully all of you will like that as much as you like this. (and it looks like that new thing is the Alexander TL, so I'll start working on getting something legitimate to post with that, though I won't promise Alexander won't sniff at a Carthaginian campaign BHA)
 
Perhaps Persian victory some time in the future? I have the first chapter; I'll be here if you ever get interested again.
 
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