WWII without Hitler?

What are some good TL's featuring "analogues" to the Second World War - That is, a large-scale "sequel" to the Great War, but different from the one in OTL?

I'd prefer it if the POD was after 1918/1919.
 
If you take away the great depression, the social fabric of especially Europe may not tear as badly; hence some of the reasons for WWII may go away?

If we look at WWII as "unfinished business" from WWI, then you need go back even further.

The interesting part is if you can avoid WWII with Hitler. That I am not sure about. With Hitler at the helm, it was unavoidable, at least the war with Russia.

The rise of fascism was closely linked to the social conditions and that is a bit difficuolt to do something about.

HOWEVER: If you really want to get into overdrive:

More wholesale slaughter and worse Spanish Flue: Kill some 30-40% of all males in Europe together with a substantial amoutn of women and children. Now that will make WWII more interesting.

White winning the Russian civil war? kicking the Tsar out (fair enough) and actually do something smart. Democracy, industrialisation, capitalism, etc. All good things

The thing that will spoil it maight be the minorities in the different countries created (and moved around) after WWI. It was not particular according to nationality. And that created some of the Unifinished business.

US doing "Vietnam" in China? direct intervention on the side of Mao/?. That should keep them busy for a while.

North Sea oil getting discovered in 1920's? And technology to somehow start drilling out there. Now that would be interesting insofar as RN was pretty dependent on Iran/Iraq for oil.

Let the oil in Nigeria be discovered in the 1920's? that will topple the chart a bit

If you keep Hitler out of it, yuo maight stil have WWII but chuck in 2-3 of these things and it willsurely be different.

PS: I like the one with the oil in Nigeria.

Ivan
 
Well, in Up With the Star a WWI that happens from 1916-8 sees a WWII fought between the Eastern Alliance of Nations (Russia, China, and Italy) v. the Central Powers (UK, Germany, Japan, and the USA). Fascist Russia creates what's essentially a White variant of a Stalinist regime with somewhat superior technology to OTL, but overstretch and depletion of its forces combined with atomic warfare bring WWII to a stalemate.
 

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Well, in Up With the Star a WWI that happens from 1916-8 sees a WWII fought between the Eastern Alliance of Nations (Russia, China, and Italy) v. the Central Powers (UK, Germany, Japan, and the USA). Fascist Russia creates what's essentially a White variant of a Stalinist regime with somewhat superior technology to OTL, but overstretch and depletion of its forces combined with atomic warfare bring WWII to a stalemate.

Lol i cringe at the thought of what will happen to italy in this tl.
 
Lol i cringe at the thought of what will happen to italy in this tl.

Actually it didn't do all that badly. It avoided being hit by atomic weapons, it didn't get fought over from one end to the other or taking major casualties, and it actually is somewhat more advanced in an economic sense than OTL.....right up until the hollowing out of Fascism leads it to be the first European state to go Communist in a kind of mirror with it being the first state to go Fascist.

By the standards of the TL it didn't end up too bad off at all.
 
Communist Germany, France and Poland against Britian, Russia, Italy and eventually America. The main starting point of the war is communist aid sent to Spain. I don't know that leaves Asia yet.
 
Trotsky, rather than Stalin, becomes Russian leader after Lenin. His policy of exporting Communist revolution leads "inevitably" to a war, in which the democratic and fascist nations combine against the 'Red Axis' (of Russia-Germany-Spain?) and its client-states. Meanwhile, Bolshevist revolutionary activity escalates in the "western" powers' colonies.
 
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