WWII Nazi victory-Nazi America

Well, It depends on One of two things.

1) Hitler Declares war on the US!
or
2) Hitler dose not!

Now Japan, with or with out Germany would have fallen to the United States. The US could rebuild things faster and better than Japan.

NOW if Hitler DID declare war it would be a stalemate and most of the fighting would take place in the Atlantic (With Navies)

If He didn't it would be a cold war
 
Rather more energetic I would think, the Communists were stuck at the Elbe, and had NATO as counterbalances, not sitting on the Atlantic coast of France with only a weakened UK

Can you even imagine the size of the USN and USAF in the event of the Nazi's somehow ruling from the Urals to the British Channel?

You'd probably be able to just walk from one aircraft carrier deck to another from New York to Iceland. And stealing a bit from Stuart Slades "The Big One" Maine would probably sink into the ocean under the weight of all the bombers.
 
Rather more energetic I would think, the Communists were stuck at the Elbe, and had NATO as counterbalances, not sitting on the Atlantic coast of France with only a weakened UK

Yeah, that is a bit more spooky. Depends on the attitude though. Germany was not comitted to World-wide political system export.
Although that us hard to predict. Try to imagine the Cuban missile crisis with Hitler as cinc.
 
A lot would depend on the state of the rump USSR, whether the Reich shares a border with China, and the state of German-Chinese relations. If the latter are bad enough (due to German support for Japan during the last war, stories told by Soviet refugees, etc), Central Asia would make an interesting theater of war. United States Forces China + Red Army remnants + National Revolutionary Army + Ma Clique + Japanese mercenaries vs Wehrmacht + Waffen-SS + Turkic & Iranian auxiliaries anyone?
 
Yeah, that is a bit more spooky. Depends on the attitude though. Germany was not comitted to World-wide political system export.
Although that us hard to predict. Try to imagine the Cuban missile crisis with Hitler as cinc.

I have serious doubts Hitler would live long enough to see the technology mature enough to make a Cuban style crisi to be possible.

A lot would depend on the state of the rump USSR, whether the Reich shares a border with China, and the state of German-Chinese relations. If the latter are bad enough (due to German support for Japan during the last war, stories told by Soviet refugees, etc), Central Asia would make an interesting theater of war. United States Forces China + Red Army remnants + National Revolutionary Army + Ma Clique + Japanese mercenaries vs Wehrmacht + Waffen-SS + Turkic & Iranian auxiliaries anyone?

You are very casually assuming that China is Communist or USA-aligned. Neither is set in stone if the Nazis achieve total victory, and especially not if the USA never enters the war.
 
You are very casually assuming that China is Communist or USA-aligned. Neither is set in stone if the Nazis achieve total victory, and especially not if the USA never enters the war.

You have a point there--Japan might have struck north into the USSR instead of striking south, so the USA never gets a cassus belli against Japan. In that scenario, China is bound to lose the war once the Soviets throw in the towel. There's also the possibility of a Reich-aligned China, but that's largely incompatible with a Japan that strikes north.
 
Yeah, that is a bit more spooky. Depends on the attitude though. Germany was not comitted to World-wide political system export.
Although that us hard to predict. Try to imagine the Cuban missile crisis with Hitler as cinc.
By the same token Stalin and the USSR leadership broke a lot fewer agreements and promises than Hitler, and limited his ambitions rather more. Could go either way, but I am leaning towards the Nazi's evoking more fear

Hitler was fairly sick, I don't see him living long enough for a Nazi Germany to get miniaturized nuclear weapons
You have a point there--Japan might have struck north into the USSR instead of striking south, so the USA never gets a cassus belli against Japan. In that scenario, China is bound to lose the war once the Soviets throw in the towel. There's also the possibility of a Reich-aligned China, but that's largely incompatible with a Japan that strikes north.
The problem with striking North is that it won't provide Japan necessary resources for decades, Japan has to strike south or scale back in China

Japan's war in China is China's to lose, as long as the Chinese can put up centralized, organized resistance, logistics and terrain will allow them to avoid defeat by Japan, and keep bleeding Japan white
 
One Hitlers sickness he certainly became and ailing man, and he was supposed to have so many conditions that you cant tell if he had any. What is certain is that he took a turn for the worse in 1941 and that his treatment and severe stress could have provoked many of the symptoms.
If everything went smooth, maybe he would not deteriorate. Maybe.
If he dies early, the question of his successor becomes important, but nazi Germany might rest and devour their conquest for many more decades..
 
Yes, it'd be like OTL and Communists, but but a much closer worldview to wartime Britain in 1940 or the OTL height of the Red Scare being nothing, as applied to Nazis.
 
Hello there,

I see you're new to the forum and would like for you to know we have a sticky in this sub-forum for why a German invasion of Britain was impossible. The thread Alien Space Bats would seem to suit you.
 
Hello there,

I see you're new to the forum and would like for you to know we have a sticky in this sub-forum for why a German invasion of Britain was impossible. The thread Alien Space Bats would seem to suit you.

A German victory does not presuppose an invasion of Britain. The OP didn't posit that as a necessary condition.
 
Please don't tell me America unconditionally surrenders! There is a TERRIBLE alternate history made on SpikeTV that shows what would to happen to America if the Nazis won World War II. It's genuinely one of the worst pieces of media I've ever seen.

Link:
I agree, since 1: Germany was not EVEN close to creating a nuke, and 2: The USA could build what Germany creates in a month in a single day, but let's just say the war created the perfect conditions for this event to happen.
 
Well, It depends on One of two things.

1) Hitler Declares war on the US!
or
2) Hitler dose not!

Now Japan, with or with out Germany would have fallen to the United States. The US could rebuild things faster and better than Japan.

NOW if Hitler DID declare war it would be a stalemate and most of the fighting would take place in the Atlantic (With Navies)

If He didn't it would be a cold war
True, but what if...
Nazi Germany won Operation Barbarossa!
UK is defeated!
Then what would the war with the USA look like?
 
One Hitlers sickness he certainly became and ailing man, and he was supposed to have so many conditions that you cant tell if he had any. What is certain is that he took a turn for the worse in 1941 and that his treatment and severe stress could have provoked many of the symptoms.
If everything went smooth, maybe he would not deteriorate. Maybe.
If he dies early, the question of his successor becomes important, but nazi Germany might rest and devour their conquest for many more decades..
The thing is, if Hitler died, then the Third Reich would literally collapse.
 
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