WWI Germany does not send an ultimatum to Russia

The problem I see with this TL is that Germany would not have left AH out tp dry like that. Austria-Hungary was Germany's only truly reliable ally. If AH goes down in defeat, and any German worth his monacle would have told the Kaiser they would, Germany would be completely isolated with hostile powers surrounding her.

Don't forget France was basically looking for an excuse to take back Alsace-Lorraine and if Germany was seen as vulnerable, I imagine the French leadership would have found reason to seize it. Especially when France and Russia see that Germany is supplying AH with weapons, training, probably volunteers; all of which would probably have led to a declaration of war against the Reich.

And what about Italy? She had a defensive alliance with Germany and AH, does she, if Russia declares war honor her obligations? Italy backed out of her alliance with Germany an AH in OTL citing that -Germany- had declared war while their alliance was defensive in nature.
 
I think you are attributing more influence to Wilhelm II in 1914 than he really had. He was left out of most of the decision making during the crisis of July 1914.


Left out? Not by a long shot.

On July 4th, Wilhelm personally ordered the German ambassador in Vienna to stop advising restraint calling the idea of restraint "nonsense". He then had the ambassador tell Vienna "Germany would support the Monarchy through thick and thin, whatever action it decided to take against Serbia. The sooner Austria-Hungary struck, the better."

This is the infamous "Blank Check".
The next day on the 5th, Wilhelm repeats all of this again to the A-H ambassador in Berlin.

On the same day, the Chancellor, Foreign Ministry’s State Secretary, Minister of War, head of the German Imperial Military Cabinet, Adjutant General, head of the Naval General Staff, and Naval State Secretariat all meet in conference and endorse Wilhelm's blank check as Germany's best policy.

As others in this thread have pointed out, Austria would have never gone to war if Germany hadn't supported her and Germany, first in the person of Wilhelm on the 4th and 5th and quickly endorsed by the government on 5th, let Austria know in the strongest possible terms she had Germany's full support.

He could have put the brakes on war if his chancellor and the Army General Staff would have let him.

That was later in the month and he wasn't trying to stop the war. He was trying to impose an "East First" policy. The government and army told him that, due to the years of planning in place, such a change was impossible. (Although some General Staff drone wrote a book in the 1920s showing that it could have been possible.)

Whether Wilhelm had the power to stop the march to war is debatable and I don't believe he had the power. Because of his personal actions on July 4th and 5th, actions his government later agreed to support, Wilhelm was very much responsible for starting the march to war very early in the crisis.
 
Desperate measures

Due to the not declaring war Willheilm realized Germany was now surrounded by hostile powers and he had no ally. Realizing he should have declared war, now if
t was too late. Then an Idea popped into his head.

1917
Germany secretly bribes Russia with millions of marks and promise of help against the rebels if Russia stays of a war Germany was going to start a war with France.

Realizing the money and aid would help Russia Tsar Nicolas agrees and soon money is sent from Hermany to Russia and German troops are sent to put down the rebels. Now that Gerrmany wasno longer facing a two fronted war the Germans discarded the Schiefflin plan. Now in order to defeat France It would need to be stuck in a mtiple fronted war. Soon Germany sent officials to the neitherlands and Spain offering Spain Southern France, the Neitherland would get Northern France and German military aid. Then In front of everybody, after bribing the Belgian king, Belgium grants military access to Germany and Germany grants military access to Belgium . With France surronded Willheilm and the war cabinet make the move, on July 16th 1917 Germany, the neitherlands, and Spain declare war on France, and Russiadeclared strict neutrality, while Italy also declared Neutrality waiting to see which side would gain the upper hand, the great war began. But this time France received no British or Russian help and was stuck in a three fronted war.....






Update, comments appreciated
 
Well the plan was that independent Poland would have a Hapsburg monarch so what difference does it really make it would still all be in the family.
Yeah so wed have 3 habsburg monarchs in Europe Finland, Crimea. and Poland.... Oh and I have special plans about the Habsburgs and France......:eek::eek::eek:
 
Yeah so wed have 3 habsburg monarchs in Europe Finland, Crimea. and Poland.... Oh and I have special plans about the Habsburgs and France......:eek::eek::eek:

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Finland was planning to bring in a Hessian bloke, having no connection with the Hapsburgs. The Crimeans would have had a republic almost certainly, but if they had a monarchy it would be from the native Giray house.

The only country besides Poland where the idea of a Hapsburg was raised was Ukraine, and I've never considered that one very realistic in the circumstances.
 
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Finland was planning to bring in a Hessian bloke, having no connection with the Hapsburgs. The Crimeans would have had a republic almost certainly, but if they had a monarchy it would be from the native Giray house.

The only country besides Poland where the idea of a Hapsburg was raised was Ukraine, and I've never considered that one very realistic in the circumstances.


Oh I see, well I guess the Habsburgs don't control those areas, well it doesn't really matter for now anyway as you will see in the update.


France stood alone

1918 Britain just stared bluntly from the sidelines realizing it could not get a caucus belli on Germany as it's ally France was torn apart. Willheilm excited over what happened declared free merchant shipping to all neutral countries so the U boats sank no ships, thus leaving both America and Britain out of the war, It really could not be called a World war but more of a war of German agrresion, in fact one could say France stood no chance.


France Managed to destroy the I'll equipped Italien army, but Germany was another matter by August German-Austrian forces marched on Paris, the French did not have the industry of Germany or Britain and France sued for peace in 1919 the treaty shocked the world, France Returns alscace and Lorraine to Germany, All members of the French republic shall be promptly executed and a Habsburg monarch shall take the throne of King of France and monarchy would be revived . Italy received Corisca and Sardinia, as well as Tunisia, while Germany and Austria split French north Africa beetween them. The utter end of the war shocked the world, French Hegumony over Europe was Broken and now Germany stood to take it's place, In march 16tu The U.S and Britain signed the English allaince, in which if Germany or a CP power were
to declare war the other would give help.

Meanwhile in Russia things would go for another turn, Now Lenin was a Brilliant orator along with the other Bolsheviks but a terrible thing happened, Tsar nicholas invited the Bolsheviks to dinner to talk about there demands, at the dinner the food was poisened and in 2 hours the physcisian declared they were all poisoned, Stalin Trotsky, Lennin and the big wigs of the Bolshevuks lay dead on the floor. With the leaders out of the picture the Bolshevik movement dispersed and the Tsar would rule Russia forever as it seemed ......
 
It is AlivE!!!!! :):):):)


In 1915 the German army quickly swept through France and soon The French forces were nearly crushe by the superior German forces, however because did not rely on the Schifllien plan just watched the fight unfold, from the East Spain soon struck the Pyrenes and a fierce battle ensued but because of the two front war France was in trouble, but France would not give up rallied the French people fought bitterly every street every house Germany would have to wipe out France to the last man......
 
Regarding the original question, Germany wouldn't have sent such an ultmatum to Russia, if Russia would have stopped to back Serbia... Although in 1914 that is kind of hard, since the Russian Pan-Slavic movement wouldn't have accepted it, so encouragement of their more important ally France is needed. If very unlikely at that point the German Empire, France, Britain, would have declared it a problem of Austria-HUngary and Serbia, it would have made open Russian support to Serbia very hard...
 
Regarding the original question, Germany wouldn't have sent such an ultmatum to Russia, if Russia would have stopped to back Serbia... Although in 1914 that is kind of hard, since the Russian Pan-Slavic movement wouldn't have accepted it, so encouragement of their more important ally France is needed. If very unlikely at that point the German Empire, France, Britain, would have declared it a problem of Austria-HUngary and Serbia, it would have made open Russian support to Serbia very hard...


What but in textbooks it says When Russia mobilized Germany sent an ultimatum which Russia ignored....?
 
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