Thanks - the picture gets clearer.
No problem, until I stumbled across them, I had never heard of them either.
Thanks - the picture gets clearer.
So thats the POD - Hungary and Slovakia go to war?
Can you elaborate on the war scare thing? - I am not aware that either the Dutch or Romanians were eager to go to war (Romania would be willing to Reverse the Vienna award, so attacking Hungary would be an option, but the DUTCH?)
Hungary and Slovakia went to war IOTL. The POD is a coincidental shooting incident somewhere in the Franco-German frontier. The Dutch get invaded by the Germans. This is before the Vienna awards.
Not sure why the OP has the Romanians declare war though.
By the way, what do the Japanese do?
Britain with six months less arms production and mobilisation (expansion of the territorial army, mostly) too? Also does not sound good...Germany without all the armaments seized from Czechia and six months less arms production? Hmm...does not sound good...
I was thinking mostly on the Nomonhan and Tientsin incidents. As in, do they get butterflied away, accelerated, delayed... ?
Britain with six months less arms production and mobilisation (expansion of the territorial army, mostly) too? Also does not sound good...
What Vienna award? First or Second. First was fall 1938 (Slovakia and Rusyns land after Munich), second in 1940 (Romania).Hungary and Slovakia went to war IOTL. The POD is a coincidental shooting incident somewhere in the Franco-German frontier. The Dutch get invaded by the Germans. This is before the Vienna awards.
Not sure why the OP has the Romanians declare war though.
By the way, what do the Japanese do?
What Vienna award? First or Second. First was fall 1938 (Slovakia and Rusyns land after Munich), second in 1940 (Romania).
I can have other POD for you regarding Romania. In OTL when Slovakia declared independence and Czech lends were occupied by Nazis. Hungarian army entered Ukrainian karpathian autonomus region (whic declared independence on March 15th) on pretext, that Czechoslovakia is not longer existing. Romania actually mobilized and put on Hungarian border around 40 000 men because of Hungarian aggression. It was entitled to do so as a member of Little Entente. But because Czechoslovakia dissolved, they only watched. Let say they move in right away...
Thanks for the response. How long do you think the war goes on? Effects on the world with an earlier defeat of Germany? And the effect of no Holocaust.
I don't think the Japanese will attack Britain and France, but I expect them to attack either the Philippines or the Dutch East Indies.
Someone (can't remember whom) posted recently that the Japanese never mounted an amphibious attack further than 500 miles away. If correct, that would rule out the DEI unless they had taken FIC or the Phillippines first.
I see the Japanese as going to war with the British and French after they join the Oil ban on the Japanese. Japan loses, but I think the US will keep much of Japan in power.Enigmajones
If Japan attacks the Philippines it will mean war with the US and defeat. Probably Britain and France offering some support if not overt military assistance. If Japan attacks the DEI I would say that means immediate war with Britain and France. If while the war with Germany is still ongoing then the Dutch are allies so it's automatic. If after a German defeat then still pretty certain. The allies have just had experience of defeating aggression, they won't want the precedent set of Japan knocking over a European colony and they will know how close that puts Japan to controlling their own colonies.
The ~500 mile limit would make sense as they won't want to operate out of range of defending air. While they have carrier support that can't linger around for long due to exhaustion of fuel and munitions. Plus their last two fleet carriers of the initial 6 and several of their light carriers weren't available until late 40/41.
Steve