how will ww1 with the same alliances UK, France, Russia vs Germany, A-H, Ottomans happen if Russia was as industrialized as Germany per capita
Germany (GDP 237,332) Ag 34.6%, Ind 41.1%, Service 24.3%
Russia (GDP 254,448) Ag 70%, Ind 26%, Service 4%
where did you get these amazing statistics ?United States (GDP 517,383) Ag 27.5%, Ind 29.7%, Service 42.8%
France (GDP 144,489) Ag 41.1%, Ind 32.3%, Service 26.6%
Netherlands (GDP 24,955) Ag 26.5%, Ind 33.8 %, Service 39.1%
GB (GDP 224,618) Ag 11.7%, Ind 44.1%, Service 44.2%
Japan (GDP 71,653) Ag 60.1%, Ind 17.5%, Service 22.4%
I suspect that Germany won't go near Russia unless they have at least GB as co-belligerent and a minimum of French neutrality if not out right support as well on their side.But France will still be allied for alsace-lorraine. UK will still need to respond for violation of Belgian neutrality when Germany tries quickly knockout France to fully commit to Russia
heh the problem is that once you start thinking about what would have happened prior to this to get Russia to this suggested point so much goes out the window.What would the biggest effect of an increased level of industrilization on russias ability to wage war be?
I would imagine a much better logistics system with a more widespread railroad allowing much faster mobilization of troops and distribution of material. A higher level of industrialization should also allow for improved arms production both in quantity and in quality, this would alleviate some of the arms shortages russia faced during the war and maybe also allow them to capitalitze properly on the lessons lerned from the Russio-Japanese war with increases machinegun production for example.
On the otherhand russia also faced a number of problems that can not be instantly solved by more and better material, including problems with troop morale, organization of the army itself as well as with leadership and overall strategy.
I think the answer is closer to yes than to no, but I dont think ist neccessarily going to be a steam roll.
Yeah, its likely that you cannot enact the neccessary changes in the period between 1905 and 1914 and would have to start way before that, ending with a russia and maybe even europe that is pretty much unrecognizable from the version of IOTL.heh the problem is that once you start thinking about what would have happened prior to this to get Russia to this suggested point so much goes out the window.
For instance in a TL where Russian industrialization is at this level for WW1 it's also more than likely TL where the Russians not only won the Russo-Japanese war, but it may not even have happened because the Russian Empire will have likely itself grabbed more of Northern China (and greater influence in the rest), possibly even a big player in Korea as well.
God alone knows what the Russian internal social landscape would be like as well!
And within Europe, eastern Europe will likely be a different place from the Crimean war onwards. Hell even if we only look back only a few years from 1914, the Balkan wars will be different, the Bosnian Crisis will be different, Pan-slavism will be different etc, etc
well that begs a few questions, how do the Germans know about it before hand if it's a surprise attack (I don't just mean spotting the mobilization but maybe previous political tensions)?what if Russians incite them by mobilizing for a surprise attack
Nope British lack casus belli , France has oppurtunity for territory. Germany would only get A-H, Ottomans and highly unlikely italy because they have more to loseHowever if the Russian empire really truly surprise attacks Germany I suspect we see WW1 Europe & Japan (maybe China) vs. Russia. And the US likely helping out at least economically
British casus belli will be "we don't want Russia taking over", and Britain will likely be on edge from all the various potential changes I've already postedNope British lack casus belli , France has oppurtunity for territory. Germany would only get A-H, Ottomans and highly unlikely italy because they have more to lose
Russia would no longer exist as an absolutist state. There are two scenarios:how will ww1 with the same alliances UK, France, Russia vs Germany, A-H, Ottomans happen if Russia was as industrialized as Germany per capita
That's a Very Very Whigy misconception High income is never ever necessarily = Liberalism China is an absolutist state with very high GDP per capita so was inter war Japan Absolutist government can be pro-Business2) The GDP per capita goes up, and there is a further democratization as a strong intellgentsia forms. This intelligentsia would most likely align itself with Germany against the British, as was suggested by several young Russian intellectuals.