Wow! Alien Signal Confirmed: A Collaborative TL

Yes but they did this in OTL the only thing changed is the name, the fact its been brought forward 3 years and facilities at woomera which they were using in '79 are expanded.

Australia's position as a junior partner may need to be changed to simply compensation or some such for using Woomera for longer.
Either way, I think its a pretty cool idea!! Also, it serves to show that the effects of the signals are being felt outside of the Northern Hemisphere. Let's see what other PODs can come out of the ATL...
 
Here are a few PODs to show that the ATL butterflies are acting strangely:

December 5th, 1978: Wei Jingsheng leads pro-democracy rallies in Tiananmen Square calling for the "Fifth Moderniztion" (democracy) in Beijing, China...

January 26th, 1979: Tiananmen Square Massacre; 27th and 38th Armies of the People's Liberation Army (PLA) clear Tiananmen Square, killing 241 people, and placing 2,000 people under arrest....

February 13th, 1979: In a televised address, President Jimmy Carter publicly condemns the actions of the People's Republic of China, stating that it is not "an internal matter"....

October 26th, 1979: South Korean President Park Chung-hee survives an assassination attempt on his life in Seoul, South Korea, fueling tensions with the military....

December 13th, 1981: Soviet troops enter into Warsaw, despite the actions of General Wojciech Jaruzelski, sparking international condemnation....

August 1st, 1982: Government of President David Arap Moi is overthrown in a military coup led by General Hezekiah Ochuka in Nairobi, Kenya...

July 22nd, 1983: Soviet troops begin their withdrawal from Warsaw, amidst cries of international condemnation for its actions....
 
I doubt this to a large degree. Humaniy finding life 120lyrs from Earth doesn't change a big deal...if anything its more scary and a will to 'go silent' then to reach out. if anything SETI is going to get a bags of funding, but humanity as a whole is going to end up getting board of the whole affair...

And we know how well 'going silent goes' just ask 19th century Japan or China. I think a fear of the unknown would help the military-industrial complex via space exploration, in the short term at least.
 
November 4 1980: James Earl Carter is narrowly reelected President of the United States, defeating the Republican nominee George HW Bush.
 
And we know how well 'going silent goes' just ask 19th century Japan or China. I think a fear of the unknown would help the military-industrial complex via space exploration, in the short term at least.

I for one agree with this assessment. One thing political leaders hate is the unknown. Just consider that in terms of pop culture, for every film or television show with E.T. or Superman (with a bright, optimistic view of the future), there are at least 20 "Independence Day" or "Aliens".

Another point is that I am suprised that no one has brought up Star Wars or Star Trek PODs...
 
June 2nd 1979: In the UK, the government announces "the need for Britain to take into account the current issues facing the world and accordingly respond. Namely by expanding British interests in space". Research into the sea dragon rocket is made a priority and it seems that Britain is going to attempt an independent space programme.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Dragon_(rocket)
 
Here are some PODs showing that Asia is becoming more democratic in the ATL:

May 30th, 1981: Major General Abul Monjur overthrows the government with a military coup in Chittagong, Bangladesh, sparking tensions throughout the region...

March 24th, 1982: Abdus Sattar is named acting president after protests overthrow the military regime in Chittagong, Bangladesh....

August 21st, 1983: Senator Benigno "Ninoy" Aquino, Jr. survives an assassination attempt, blamed on "communist guerillas" (actually, government troops) in Manila, Philippines....

September 21st, 1983: Senator Benigno "Ninoy" Aquino, Jr. leads "National Day of Unity" rallies calling for unity amongst the various factions against the Marcos regime....
 
November 11, 1980: The motion picture Star Trek II is a major hit. The plot deals with the crew of the Enterprise traveling back in time to went interstellar contact was first made with Earth. Source material for the film comes mainly from Ray Bradbury and the book Chariot of the Gods?

December 11, 1980: A mistake in the Alabama delegation 'accidentally' cast their ballots for Jimmy Carter / George Wallace, throwing the election of the Vice President to the United States Senate. With the Democrats holding a majority in the Senate, the Carter Administration does not try to challenge these 'accidental' results.
January 8, 1981: Several Southern Democrats defect and narrowly elect Republican Vice Presidential nominee John Connally Vice President of the United States.

March 30, 1981: John Hinckley, Jr. assassinates President James Earl Carter, Jr (Democratic). Vice President John Connally (Republican) succeeds to the Presidency, amid protests.
 
June 2nd 1979: In the UK, the government announces "the need for Britain to take into account the current issues facing the world and accordingly respond. Namely by expanding British interests in space". Research into the sea dragon rocket is made a priority and it seems that Britain is going to attempt an independent space programme.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Dragon_(rocket)

Fuck yeah sea dragon, that rocket was crazy cheap and crazy powerful they could go to Mars with that baby and cary 22 odd times more into orbit then the space shuttle for a fraction of the cost.
 
[/I]December 11, 1980: A mistake in the Alabama delegation 'accidentally' cast their ballots for Jimmy Carter / George Wallace, throwing the election of the Vice President to the United States Senate. With the Democrats holding a majority in the Senate, the Carter Administration does not try to challenge these 'accidental' results.
January 8, 1981: Several Southern Democrats defect and narrowly elect Republican Vice Presidential nominee John Connally Vice President of the United States.

How close was the election in this 1980? Alabama only had 9 electors in 1980.

Torqumada
 
23 July 1983
The Royal Space Agency cuts funding for the HOTOL project in favour of its Sea dragon inspired two staged rocket. Alan Bond takes what of his design is not made classified with him hoping to find a private backer for hist space plane.
 
Here is the second draft of the ATL so far:

August 15th, 1977: Dr. Jerry R. Ehman on August 15, 1977, while working on a SETI project at the Big Ear radio telescope of Ohio State University then located at Ohio Wesleyan University's Perkins Observatory, Delaware, Ohio. The signal bore all of the hallmarks of potential non-terrestrial and non-Solar System origin. It lasted for the full 72-second duration that Big Ear observed it, but was never detected again. The message was detected in the Sagitarius Constellation, roughly 122 light-years from Earth, making any conversation or exchange of information impossible, but the effect was clear, humanity was no longer the sentient life form in the universe...

August 16th, 1977: President Jimmy Carter, after receiving a briefing by his scientific advisors announces the radio signal to the world as a "profound discovery, which serves notice that we are not the sole heirs of creation..."

August 16th, 1977: Singer Elvis Presley proclaims that the signal is "divine providence", running onto his lawn and going into prayer at Graceland in Memphis, Tennessee...

August 18th, 1977: Senator William Proxmire (D-WI) voices his scepticism, stating about the president's speech,"It's the best argument yet for chopping NASA's funding to the bone .... I say not a penny for this nutty fantasy..."

August 20th, 1977: Although conceived and planned since the late 1960s, the Voyager 2 launch gains one of its highest television ratings for NASA, with the launch from Cape Canaveral, Florida...

August 21st, 1977: Senator Bob Dole (R-KS) and William Proxmire (D-WI) demand an investigation into the "WOW! signal".

August 25th, 1977: A Senate Committee is formed to investigate the "WOW! signal".

August 26th, 1977: Moral Majority leader Jerry Falwell states during a rally in Virginia Beach, Virginia,"Without Divine interference we are alone in the universe and without Christ we are—and should be—terrified. The gospel is as relevant as ever..."

August 27th 1977: Soviet leader Leonid Brezhnev says in a speech "It is clear that we are not alone in this universe, but there are fellow comrades elsewhere who like all sapient species must still abide by Karl Marx's great insights. I can but hope there the withering away of the State has already been accomplished".

September 11th, 1977: Ruth Norman (a.k.a. "Spaceship Ruthy"), Unarian Academy of Sciences, appears on The Tonight Show (NBC-TV), telling Johnny Carson to expect alien landings "before the end of the year..." in Los Angeles, California....

September 29th, 1977: Carl Sagan appears on The Tonight Show (NBC-TV) with host Johnny Carson, discussing the importance of "first contact" in Los Angeles, California....

December 22nd 1977: Ayatollah Khomeini dies in an automobile accident in Najaf.

December 25th, 1977: Professor Carl Sagan speaks on the importance of the radio signals, during a lecture at the Royal Institution in London, England...

February 1st, 1978: Jerry Falwell warns of a possible assassination attempt against President Jimmy Carter, warning that UFOs are a "Satanic tool of deception to cnfuse and confound mankind", during an interview in Virginia Beach, Virginia...

March 6th, 1978: Larry Flynt, publisher of Hustler is shot and killed outside the court house in Lawrenceville, Georgia by white supremacist Joseph Paul Franklin....

March 17th, 1978: Ufologist Nigel Watson warns of a possible chemical or nuclear accident, during a press conference in London, England, claiming to have translated the 1977 radio signals...

May 1st 1978: Shah Reza Pahlvani announces extensive political reforms, hoping to stop protests against his regime...

May 27th, 1978: Jerry Falwell proclaims that UFOs are the "transports of demons fom hell" during a televised sermon in Virginia Beach, Virginia...

June 15th 1978: Rev. Jim Jones of the People's Temple cult and Marshall Applewhite and Bonnie Nettles of the Heaven's Gate cult meet at Jonestown to form a new UFO-based cult Messenger of Heaven.

July 25th, 1978: Jerry Falwell proclaims that the lack of evidence of life on other worlds across the solar system as "proof of divine providence.."

November 5 1978: Dan White commits suicide and leaves a note saying "The arrival of the Greater Beings are imminent-I must come to them".

November 12th, 1978: Scientists question the "Wow!" signal during a press conference in Washington D.C., calling it a "political football"....

20th November 1978: A second signal is received by the Big ear telescope and numerous other similar facilities the world over. The signal clearly transmitting the first 24 Prime numbers removing much doubt from the scientific community that the original WoW signal could be explained by a natural phenomena.

November 24th, 1978: 5,000 people gather in Warrenville, Illinois, after Guido Franch proclaims a UFO landing. Most people leave in disappointment when nothing happens.....

December 5th, 1978: Wei Jingsheng leads pro-democracy rallies in Tiananmen Square calling for the "Fifth Moderniztion" (democracy) in Beijing, China...

December 12th, 1978: Fortunato Zanfretta of Torriglia, Italy proclaims UFO the possibility of UFO landings, after an alleged UFO abduction, during an interview on Italian television....

January 26th, 1979: Tiananmen Square Massacre; 27th and 38th Armies of the People's Liberation Army (PLA) clear Tiananmen Square, killing 241 people, and placing 2,000 people under arrest....

February 13th, 1979: In a televised address, President Jimmy Carter publicly condemns the actions of the People's Republic of China, stating that it is not "an internal matter"....

June 2nd 1979: In the UK, the government announces "the need for Britain to take into account the current issues facing the world and accordingly respond. Namely by expanding British interests in space". Research into the sea dragon rocket is made a priority and it seems that Britain is going to attempt an independent space programme.

June 21st, 1979: San Diego Riots; Riots erupt in San Diego, California after Mark Block claims a massive UFO landing outside the city limits....

September 28th, 1979: President Jimmy Carter releases his Space Policy Initiative (SNI) during a Rose Garden speech in Washington D.C.,...

October 26th, 1979: South Korean President Park Chung-hee survives an assassination attempt on his life in Seoul, South Korea, fueling tensions with the military....

12 December 1979: With increased interest in space the United Kingdom reforms its space agency expanding once neglected facilities at Woomera. For this expansion of the facility Australia is made a junior partner in the new Royal Space Agency.

October 3rd, 1980: "Talk is Cheap" by Elvis Presley makes its hit musical debut, signalling a musical comeback in Memphis, Tennessee...

November 4 1980: James Earl Carter is narrowly re-elected President of the United States, defeating the Republican nominee George HW Bush.

November 11, 1980: The motion picture Star Trek II is a major hit. The plot deals with the crew of the Enterprise traveling back in time to went interstellar contact was first made with Earth. Source material for the film comes mainly from Ray Bradbury and the book Chariot of the Gods?.

December 8th, 1980: Singer John Lennon is hospitalized after being shot by Mark David Chapman in New York City, New York....

December 11, 1980: A mistake in the Alabama delegation 'accidentally' cast their ballots for Jimmy Carter / George Wallace, throwing the election of the Vice President to the United States Senate. With the Democrats holding a majority in the Senate, the Carter Administration does not try to challenge these 'accidental' results.

December 21st, 1980: On an episode of Cosmos (PBS-TV), Carl Sagan, openly questions what huamnity's response should be regarding the alien radio signals...

January 8, 1981: Several Southern Democrats defect and narrowly elect Republican Vice Presidential nominee John Connally Vice President of the United States.

March 30, 1981: John Hinckley, Jr. assassinates President James Earl Carter, Jr (Democratic). Vice President John Connally (Republican) succeeds to the Presidency, amid protests.

May 13th, 1981: Pope John Paul II is assassinated by Mehmet Ali Ağca in St. Peter's Square in the Vatican City,sparking international outrage....

May 30th, 1981: Major General Abul Monjur overthrows the government with a military coup in Chittagong, Bangladesh, sparking tensions throughout the region...

August 30th, 1981: Prime Minister Mohammad-Javad Bahonar calls for massive political reforms from Shah Reza Pahlavi, during a rally in Tehran, Iran...

31 August 1981: The Royal Space Agency officially backs the HOTOL project, an ambitious attempt at a re-usable unmanned space plane using air-breathing rocket engines designed by Alan Bond.

October 6th, 1981: Egyptian President Anwar Sadat narrowly survives an assassination atempt, during a military review parade in Cairo....

December 13th, 1981: Soviet troops enter into Warsaw, despite the actions of General Wojciech Jaruzelski, sparking international condemnation....

December 15th, 1981: "I Believe" album by Elvis Presley, makes its hit debut, including singles "Jesus In My Soul", "I Was There When It Happened"...

March 24th, 1982: Abdus Sattar is named acting president after protests overthrow the military regime in Chittagong, Bangladesh....

August 1st, 1982: Government of President David Arap Moi is overthrown in a military coup led by General Hezekiah Ochuka in Nairobi, Kenya...

August 21st, 1983: Senator Benigno "Ninoy" Aquino, Jr. survives an assassination attempt, blamed on "communist guerillas" (actually, government troops) in Manila, Philippines....

July 22nd, 1983: Soviet troops begin their withdrawal from Warsaw, amidst cries of international condemnation for its actions....

23 July 1983: The Royal Space Agency cuts funding for the HOTOL project in favour of its Sea dragon inspired two staged rocket. Alan Bond takes what of his design is not made classified with him hoping to find a private backer for hist space plane.

September 21st, 1983: Senator Benigno "Ninoy" Aquino, Jr. leads "National Day of Unity" rallies calling for unity amongst the various factions against the Marcos regime....

March 14th, 1984: Gerry Adams, leader of Sinn Fein, is assassinated by members of the Ulster Freeom Fighters (UFF) in Belfast, Northern Ireland....

October 12th, 1984: British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher is assassinated in Brighton, England by members of the Irish Republican Army (IRA)....

September 1st, 1985: "Class of '55" featuring Roy Orbison, Elvis Presley, and Jerry Lee Lewis makes its hit debut; Elvis Presley settles his feud with Jerry Lee Lewis in Memphis...

October 3rd, 1989: The Space Moose comic strip makes its infamous debut. The strip follows the adventures of Space Moose, an anthropomorphic, nihilistic moose with asymmetrical eyes and a Star Trek uniform, as he violates every behavioral norm and societal taboo he can find. His roommates Marlo Smefner, Billy the Bionic Badger, and Bald Dwarf are often the accomplices or victims of his actions...

November 20th, 1990: Vatican officials release a statement, more than 13 years after the intiial signal, saying,"Extraterrestrial contact is a real phenomenon. The Vatican is receiving much information about extraterrestrials and their contacts with humans from its Nuncios (embassies) in various countries, such as Mexico, Chile and Venezuela..."

December 1st, 1991: The Colby Christ Meets Space Moose comic book makes its infamous debut, proving to be even more of a cult hit...

November 1st, 1994: Masquerade of Angels by Karla Turner published, alleging that most encounters with aliens actually involve malevolent entities known as "Reptoids" that routinely rape and deceive humans...

July 8th, 1997: Pat Robertson posits that UFOs are actually demonic in origin and suggests enthusiasts be stoned...

December 15th, 1997: Space Moose (TV-MA) is approved for broadcast on The Comedy Channel...

June 30th, 1998: Pamela Stonebrooke claims to have had sexual contact with "Reptoids" in her book Experiencer: A Jazz Singer’s True Account of Extraterrestrial Contact.

January 1st, 1999: David Icke posits that the world is being secretly controlled by demonic/alien "Reptoids" (aka "Draconians") in his work The Biggest Secret...

July 4th, 2001: Space Moose: Millennium Moose is released in theaters, proving to be a sleeper hit...
 
Just out of curiousity, who were some major advocates for the Strategic Defense Intiative (SDI) on the Democratic Party lines? If anything, President John Connelly would certainly need their support for the program, especially if people want to continue with the idea of the space program being enlarged in the ATL....

I am guessing that the space program will replace or at the very least be coordinate with the military in the ATL, for the program wherein the strategy will be to "outspend the Russians...."
 
March 28, 1979: Three Mile Island suffers a complete meltdown.

April 26, 1986: Due to the unqualified staff having been fired in January, the Cernobyl disaster can be averted.

August 9, 1987: The Stendal NPP is completed and operational.

January 12, 2003: White supremacists/Neo-Nazis hijack several planes and destroy the Reichstag (Bonn) , the Bundesverfassungsgericht, the Deutsche Bank Tower and the Phollipsburg NPP. 5067 people are killed.
 
March 28, 1979: Three Mile Island suffers a complete meltdown.

April 26, 1986: Due to the unqualified staff having been fired in January, the Cernobyl disaster can be averted.

August 9, 1987: The Stendal NPP is completed and operational.

January 12, 2003: White supremacists/Neo-Nazis hijack several planes and destroy the Reichstag (Bonn) , the Bundesverfassungsgericht, the Deutsche Bank Tower and the Phollipsburg NPP. 5067 people are killed.
Alright, now we are cooking with some fire!! Definitely bring some more PODs!!!
 
A more successful Buran Shuttle and the possibility of a longer lasting Soviet union.

4 January 1980
Construction begins of Soviet Shuttles as part of the Buran program an attempt to match the US capabilities. The shuttle is however lighter with smaller engines on the shuttle itself it only has a slightly smaller payload as its US counterpart, relying much more on its booster rocket to reach orbit.

3 July 1983
The first sub orbital test flight of a full scale mock up of the shuttle is tested.

15 November 1987
Lifted into orbit by the Energia booster rocket, soviet shuttle Buran completes its first mission two unmanned orbits of the earth before successfuly landing at the Baikonur Cosmodrome.

1 October 1988
Soviet Shuttle Ptichka completes an unmanned first flight remaining in orbit for 36 hours.

25 September 1989.
A full scale mock up of the shuttle is put on display at the Paris air show.

2 December 1990
Shuttle Ptichka begins a second unmanned second flight, the mission lasts 8 days including orbital manoeuvre's and docking with the Mir space station. at the station the crew transfer to the shuttle conducting tests of its systems, a problems with one of these system cancel a planed docking with a Soyuz crew transport, the shuttle cancelling its mission early unmanned safely returns to Earth.

3 June 1991
Shuttle Buran conducts its second unmanned flight lasting 16 days hwere it successfully docked with a a Soyuz crew transport.

6 July 1993
Shuttle Baikal completes the first manned mission in a Russian shuttle the two man crew spend 24 hours in orbit before landing at the Baikonur Cosmodrome.
 
January 17, 2003: Jürgen Möllemann, Minister of Foreign Affairs, says that "a religious motive for the 1/12 attacks can be ruled out".

January 19, 2003: The "Kommando Adolf Hitler" declare themselves responsible for the attacks. Friedrich Merz, State Secretary/Minister of Domestic Affairs, says that "we have to fight the BAF" (Braune Armee Fraktion).

2003-2005: A full-blown purge against all right-leaning officials takes place. Several upper officials of the Verfassungsschutz and the police are fired and some even arrested.

May 7, 2005: The BASF main production plant in Ludwigshafen is attacked.

May 9, 2005: The NNSB (Neue Naturschutz-Bewegung) declares itself responsible.

September 27, 2006: The Greens get the Majority in the Bundestag and, in October, agree on a coalition with the SPD. Joschka Fischer becomes Chancellor of Germany. They vow to "fight the fascist, Neo-Nazi and eco-terrorist threat". The NPD, for the first time in the history of Germany, get over the 5 percent threshold and send 6 delegates.

April 9, 2007: The highly controversial airport building site in Hamburg (Helmut-Schmidt-Flughafen), colloquially known as "Hamburg 21", is attacked with a car bomb. Tens of thousands of DM in damage are done. It is not clear, whether eco-terrorists or the radical right is responsible. Suspicion, though, immediately falls on the radical right wing.

April 12, 2007: Eco-Terrorists calling themselves the GF (Green Front) claim responsibility for the Hamburg 21 attacks.
 
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January 8, 2004: Daimler-Chrysler CEO Jürgen Schrempp is assassinated by the IACA (International Anti-Car Army). They claim that they "wanted to force Daimler to only build ecological cars".

April 19, 2007: Joschka Fischer, Claudia Roth and Jürgen Trittin issue a joint declaration, distancing themselves from "militant behavior": "This is not our policy, and it does not help the environment to attack buildings and other objects percieved as a threat. It only discredits the Green Movement and thus is harmful to it's cause."
They are nevertheless criticised for distancing so late.



June 2, 2007: After an attack on the Stendal NPP, which caused major damage and in which radioactivity was leaked to the environment, and after responsibility was claimed by the ANGA (Anti-Nuclear Green Army), Chancellor Joschka Fischer and Environmental minister Cem Özdemir had to resign.

December 17, 2007: The TOTAL headquaters in La Défense were nearly destroyed.

December 18, 2007: The IGA (International Green Army, but basically the same group) claimed responsibility

December 19, 2007: After demonstrations against the "Ökos" (Ecos) in major cities turned into riots, newly-elected Chancellor Claudia Roth lost a vote-of-no-confidence. New elections are to be held on February 3.

February 3, 2008. The CDU/CSU wins the elections in a landslide. It even manages to clinch 50,3 percent of the vote and, thus, an absolute majority. The continued ecoterrorism discredited the Green Movement, the Green Party only gets 0,9 percent. The left also suffers heavily, getting 2,1 percent only. As a new force, the KAP (Konventionell-Atomare Partei), centered around exactly the opposite to what the Greens wanted, enter the Bundestag with 5,9 %.
All parties vow to simultaneously fight the "brown and green threats".

March 7, 2008: The "Atomausstiegsgesetz", ratified in early 2007, gets fully repealed with the votes of CDU, FDP, CSU and KAP.

March 11, 2008: The Calder Hal NPP in Great Britain is destroyed (and suffers a total meltdown) by a hijacked plane. The ANF (Anti-Nuclear Forces, but still the same group) claims responsibility the next day.
 
Thinking it over I don't think the Brits would want nor need something as big as the OTL sea dragon, the thing could if you could fit it on the rocket put the ISS in orbit in a single flight and put 100 tonnes on the moon, the things a monster.

Maybe having them go for a scale downed model 1/2 or 1/3 the size the thing is just too dam huge. Even then the rocket is massive and bigger then anything the USSR or USA have including the Saturn V and can do it cheaper then anything they could with OTL rockets.

Thats just my opinion what do you all think?
 
Just out of curiousity, how many space-faring nations can we have before it becomes too strange for the ATL?

Something that we might want to consider, if satellite and space communications are given the head-start in the ATL, one strange effect will be speeded-up technology. Just consider the many space technologies that have been applied to life on Earth...
 
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